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The leadership of the democrat party is unequivocally evil. Full stop. They have shown their true colors and it involves inflicting pure pain on TSA agents to further their anti ICE crusade.
Just when you think they couldn’t punch any lower….
 
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OrangeTsar said:
The leadership of the democrat party is unequivocally evil. Full stop. They have shown their true colors and it involves inflicting pure pain on TSA agents to further their anti ICE crusade.
Just when you think they couldn’t punch any lower….
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You should watch the videos you post every once in a while and see if the claims in the captions are reflected in them at all
 
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Its sad that an 80 year old person was slammed to the pavement.
You have NO right to impede any LEO or any ICE agents. This is
what will happen when you do. You may be arrested & spend time in jail.
Looks like he was in the wrong place at the wrong time to quote liberals.
 
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I think the ICE agents were quite restrained. Doesn't look like the 80 yr old was hurt. It's sad that after 80 yrs this human being still has such poor judgment and has to learn lessons like this. He ought to know better
 
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NashVol11 said:
Throwing an 80 year old to the ground to where his head either hits the pavement or comes very close to doing so is unnecessary as hell. People have lost their damn minds
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He was physically impeding the agents from executing an arrest. How should they have handled it? Seems to me shoving him aside seems about right
 
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hog88 said:
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No, don't be stupid, there would have been no justification for them to shoot him.
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So you do have a line for too much force. Agree to disagree that unnecessarily throwing an elderly man to the ground to where his head potentially hits the pavement doesn't cross it
 
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Sea Ray said:
He was physically impeding the agents from executing an arrest. How should they have handled it? Seems to me shoving him aside seems about right
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Pushing him aside would have been fine. I think if people weren't interested in reflexively defending ICE, they wouldn't watch that and think it was absolutely necessary that he be thrown to the ground that way. Guy could even have just pulled him away without letting go
 
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NashVol11 said:
So you do have a line for too much force. Agree to disagree that unnecessarily throwing an elderly man to the ground to where his head potentially hits the pavement doesn't cross it
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If they'd starting wailing on him with punches that'd be too much. Using this as an example of excess force really hurts your case. It shows you'll grasp at anything to criticize ICE. It puts forth the notion that you got nothing.
 
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Sea Ray said:
If they'd starting wailing on him with punches that'd be too much. Using this as an example of excess force really hurts your case. It shows you'll grasp at anything to criticize ICE. It puts forth the notion that you got nothing.
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The fact that you are trying to make something very obviously unnecessary into a "case" puts forth the notion that you are consuming too much propaganda
 
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NashVol11 said:
So you do have a line for too much force. Agree to disagree that unnecessarily throwing an elderly man to the ground to where his head potentially hits the pavement doesn't cross it
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I clearly have a line. I clearly said in a post when they shot the woman in her car that while justified there was no need to shoot her. I called it flat out murder when they shot that other guy in the back. The old man in that video was a dumbazz and got shoved resulting in him falling. He brought that upon himself.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Pushing him aside would have been fine. I think if people weren't interested in reflexively defending ICE, they wouldn't watch that and think it was absolutely necessary that he be thrown to the ground that way. Guy could even have just pulled him away without letting go
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With great power comes less responsibility oughtta be the mantra for the bootlickers in the GOP. Never a care for what the government should be doing when they're in charge and when it's their boots busting heads. It's what can they get away with doing?
 
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You gotta be pretty damn dumb to interfere with govt agents or police during arrests and had no parental guidance to teach you any different.
Blaming the agents, while putting no blame on the agitators interfering, no matter what age or race, is another reason why the majority of people, dems and reps, find libs exhausting and deem them mentally ill.
Not being stupid can save a lot of lives.
 
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Skooter said:
You gotta be pretty damn dumb to interfere with govt agents or police during arrests and had no parental guidance to teach you any different.
Blaming the agents, while putting no blame on the agitators interfering, no matter what age or race, is another reason why the majority of people, dems and reps, find libs exhausting and deem them mentally ill.
Not being stupid can save a lot of lives.
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I don't have a problem with what the old man did, he at least put some of his skin in the game unlike our resident keyboard warriors who love to call others bootlickers but are to chickensh!t to get out from behind their computers. I'm all for people standing up to and fighting authority, but like with any fight you start, you better win or be prepared for the repercussions.
 
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hog88 said:
I don't have a problem with what the old man did, he at least put some of his skin in the game unlike our resident keyboard warriors who love to call others bootlickers but are to chickensh!t to get out from behind their computers. I'm all for people standing up to and fighting authority, but like with any fight you better win or be prepared for the repercussions.
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it’s never been ok to interfere or grab police or govt agents, or flee, or try to harass or box them in with cars.
We have a small group of people who think laws and common sense don’t apply to them and they can interfere, spit at, yell at, grab, block or throw stuff at vehicles without repercussions. I don’t know how many people need to **** around and find out before they show some common sense, but mentally ill do seem to have a lack of common sense, which is an epidemic it seems.
 
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Good to see more cooperation happening under Trump:

At the beginning of 2025, no Ohio law enforcement agencies were officially working with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials.

But, by the end of the year, agencies in at least 14 Ohio counties had agreements with federal immigration officials, many of them profiting counties to the tune of millions of dollars, according to a new report by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Ohio.

They found that there was a dramatic increase in federal immigration enforcement’s presence in the Buckeye state since President Donald Trump took office for his second term as president on Jan. 20, 2025.

That means that at least 1.6 million Ohioans and nearly 14% of the state’s population live in a county where local law enforcement has agreements with ICE, according to the "ICE in Ohio" report.
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The number of Ohio facilities housing immigrant detainees for ICE has tripled since 2024, coinciding with the federal strategy to detain and deport more immigrants.
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Skooter said:
it’s never been ok to interfere or grab police or govt agents, or flee, or try to harass or box them in with cars.
We have a small group of people who think laws and common sense don’t apply to them and they can interfere, spit at, yell at, grab, block or throw stuff at vehicles without repercussions. I don’t know how many people need to **** around and find out before they show some common sense, but mentally ill do seem to have a lack of common sense, which is an epidemic it seems.
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Not speaking for the libs in here, but the difference between you and me isn't that I don't put any blame on the old man for agitating.

The difference between us is that you are more concerned by civilians who think the laws and common sense do not apply to them. I am more concerned with a government agency that thinks the laws and common sense do not apply to them.

You're a tory.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Not speaking for the libs in here, but the difference between you and me isn't that I don't put any blame on the old man for agitating.

The difference between us is that you are more concerned by civilians who think the laws and common sense do not apply to them. I am more concerned with a government agency that thinks the laws and common sense do not apply to them.

You're a tory.
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I'm not aware of any laws ICE was not following there but I did see that civilian breaking laws
 
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Sea Ray said:
I'm not aware of any laws ICE was not following there but I did see that civilian breaking laws
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Why are people there to protest ICE? Nobody said they broke the law in this case. I am saying my viewpoint in this thread is informed by my concerns about runaway government. You guys are here to defend it.

People are protesting ICE because they consistently break the law all the time. 4,000 arrests in the Trump admin deemed illegal by the courts, as of January. They had memos literally encouraging agents to skirt judicial warrants.
 
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