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Franklin Pierce said:

Unhinged Virginia nurse who encouraged colleagues to inject ICE agents with paralytic drug is swiftly fired​


An unhinged Virginia nurse who encouraged medical professionals to drug ICE agents with paralytic meds was swiftly canned.

Malinda Cook, a nurse anesthetist at Virginia Commonwealth University Health, was fired by the hospital on Tuesday after she spewed the disturbing remarks in a spate of TikTok videos.

Cook, who was identified by local media, blasted out her so-called “sabotage” tactics as anti-ICE riots exploded across the country.
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Unhinged Virginia nurse Malinda Cook was fired after encouraging medical professionals to drug ICE agents with paralytic meds.

“Sabotage tactic, or at least scare tactic. All the medical providers, grab some syringes with needles on the end,” the nurse said on one clip spreading on social media.


“Have them full of saline or succinylcholine, you know, whatever. Whatever. That will probably be a deterrent. Be safe,” she added, referring to the fast-acting anesthetic that causes temporary paralysis.

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Unhinged nurse who encouraged colleagues to inject ICE agents with paralytic drug is swiftly fired

An unhinged Virginia nurse was busted encouraging medical professionals to drug ICE agents with paralytic meds.
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Dang… she was pretty. Too bad she’s going to lose those nursing licenses.
 
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Smokey123 said:
hence why I said rare circumstances.
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OK?

Smokey123 said:
Which brings it back full circle, who was obstructing?
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Looks like both were.

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Why weren't the girls arrested?
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You can ask the agents. Like I said, probably because it fell aside after the import of someone being killed.

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We know Pretti wasn’t being arrested for obstruction he wasn’t who the one agent was targeting.
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Looks like he was being arrested for physically engaging a federal agent. That's a no-no, from what I can tell.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
It’s easily to demonstrate though. If ICE witnesses a felony car theft that’s a state offense and they have no jurisdiction. If that car crosses state lines then it escalates to federal purview
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Sooooo, let's say an ICE officer witnesses a felony car theft and arrests the perp. Does it get thrown out since the ICE officer "doesn't have jurisdiction"?
 
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hog88 said:
You're trying way to hard. The conversation was only about an officer using pepper spray after being touched. Keep up.
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Use Pepper spray, get him back to the sidewalk, or arrest him. I agree with all that when he resists put him on the ground and cuff him, after you do a complete body search. Keep him separated from the crowd use a patrol car. Petty wagon. Address the issues in court. Put him on a list, FBI or whatever and Restraining Order prohibiting him from being anywhere near an ICE Operation. Accountability and action. Simple. ICE doesn't want Local Law Enforcement around.
 
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hog88 said:
Sooooo, let's say an ICE officer witnesses a felony car theft and arrests the perp. Does it get thrown out since the ICE officer "doesn't have jurisdiction"?
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I am wading into the convo mid stream but isn't the idea of a 'citizen's arrest' still valid in America? If so, would an ICE agent arresting a felony car theft fall under a citizen's arrest?
 
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McDad said:
I am wading into the convo mid stream but isn't the idea of a 'citizen's arrest' still valid in America? If so, would an ICE agent arresting a felony car theft fall under a citizen's arrest?
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I’d struggle for the agent to claim citizen arrest unless he was clearly off duty and happenstance saw the offense. Plus in this day and age that sounds like a great way to get shot 😂
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I have no idea and I’d guess your scenario plays out all the time. Still doesn’t mean it’s a legal arrest though
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It's an interesting scenario to think about. How do you think it compares to a citizens arrest (witnessing a felony and detaining the perp) which I think is legal in every state.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I’d struggle for the agent to claim citizen arrest unless he was clearly off duty and happenstance saw the offense. Plus in this day and age that sounds like a great way to get shot 😂
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A citizen can "arrest" someone when they witness a crime in process. Idk if employment under a federal vocation precludes someone from exercising that "right".

A TSA agent can make a citizen's arrest, i bet.
 
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McDad said:
I am wading into the convo mid stream but isn't the idea of a 'citizen's arrest' still valid in America? If so, would an ICE agent arresting a felony car theft fall under a citizen's arrest?
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No dang it. They are ICE, FEDERAL law enforcement so they can't arrest you unless you are committing a federal crime. They would have to call a citizen to do it....
 
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McDad said:
A citizen can "arrest" someone when they witness a crime in process. Idk if employment under a federal vocation precludes someone from exercising that "right".
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Oh I’d think the acting capacity of the agent absolutely matters. Just a guess on my part admittedly.

If the agent is wearing a ballistic vest with FEDERAL AGEHT stitched on it and runs around yelling citizens arrest while truly hilarious in Barney Fife fashion it didn’t sound like it passes the bar for me
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I’d struggle for the agent to claim citizen arrest unless he was clearly off duty and happenstance saw the offense. Plus in this day and age that sounds like a great way to get shot 😂
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I'd like to hear a defense lawyers take on that argument, if any would use that in defense of a client. "You're honor the arrest was illegal since my client was arrested by an ICE officer" "it doesn't matter that the officer saw my client stealing the car the case has to be dismissed".
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Oh I’d think the acting capacity of the agent absolutely matters. Just a guess on my part admittedly.

If the agent is wearing a ballistic vest with FEDERAL AGEHT stitched on it and runs around yelling citizens arrest while truly hilarious in Barney Fife fashion it didn’t sound like it passes the bar for me
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"pass the bar for you" is/is not related to the legality of the action?
 
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ICE Mission Statement

Key Aspects of ICE's Mission
    • Enforcement:
      Identifying, arresting, and removing individuals in violation of immigration laws.
    • Homeland Security:
      Protecting against transnational threats, including terrorism, human trafficking, and smuggling.
    • Trade & Customs:
      Investigating violations of customs and trade laws, as well as illegal movement of goods.
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