Too much ice

[allstar34]

Minnesota has 100-120,000 undocumented immigrants.

Texas has 1.7-2 million undocumented immigrants.

Florida has 1.6-1.9 million undocumented immigrants.

But sure, let's send ICE agents door to door in Minnesota.

Texas and Florida don’t have people actively trying to disrupt officers from doing their jobs?

 

[Majors]

Texas and Florida don’t have people actively trying to disrupt officers from doing their jobs?

A nice idea, people allowing people to do their jobs.

 

[BeardedVol]

States and cities which declared themselves sanctuaries, put a target on their back with the federal government and the roughshod approach of the president.

It's very 'fiscally responsible' of you to support using government resources to target cities in states with 1/10 the undocumented immigrants as other because they called themselves "sanctuary cities".

 

[Orange_Crush]

States and cities which declared themselves sanctuaries, put a target on their back with the federal government and the roughshod approach of the president.

By refusing to partner with ICE, they kind of force ICE to take a larger and stronger presence in their communities, if ICE is to affect its purpose and enforce immigration laws.

 

[Rickyvol77]

It's very 'fiscally responsible' of you to support using government resources to target cities in states with 1/10 the undocumented immigrants as other because they called themselves "sanctuary cities".

Better question for you.

Why did Dem cities and states quit cooperating and notifying ICE when they arrested illegals for various crimes in the past decade?

 

[Orange_Crush]

Better question for you.

Why did Dem cities and states quit cooperating and notifying ICE when they arrested illegals for various crimes in the past decade?

Arrests violent illegal immigrants.

refuse to partner with ICE, and releases them back into their communities.

"Why are you picking on us by bringing more ICE agents into our communities?!"


It's Jesse Smollett at a city-level.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Eh, they were both playing stupid games.
And they both got shot by jumpy effin cops.

PSA - Stay away from jumpy effin cops.

That's the point I was trying to make. If one deserved it, they both deserved it. If one was murder they both were murder. You can't have it both ways. Of course that's not how Luther saw it, and some others.

 

[KB5252]

Minnesota has 100-120,000 undocumented immigrants.

Texas has 1.7-2 million undocumented immigrants.

Florida has 1.6-1.9 million undocumented immigrants.

But sure, let's send ICE agents door to door in Minnesota.

For what it's worth there is significant operations happening in Texas as we speak. Alabama and here in Tennessee. One large difference is local police help/ work in concert with ICE officials.

The other issue I've heard, though not confirmed through research, is that most of those illegal aliens are centralized in Minneapolis. In Texas they are spread out.

Yes Trump has made it punitive on Minneapolis specifically because of their wide scale immigrant fraud scandal. Further emboldening Trump is their refusal to assist, and in some cases their local leadership fanning the flames of public outrage.

Trump isn't innocent here, he's an ass and trying to look like he's coming down hard on Minneapolis.

 

[BeardedVol]

Better question for you.

Why did Dem cities and states quit cooperating and notifying ICE when they arrested illegals for various crimes in the past decade?

That would be the prerogative of the state in question, would it not?

Is there a federal law that they must do so?

Amazing how quickly you guys abandon the whole "State's rights" argument when it isn't about reproductive rights or gay people getting married.

 

[BeardedVol]

For what it's worth there is significant operations happening in Texas as we speak. Alabama and here in Tennessee. One large difference is local police help/ work in concert with ICE officials.

The other issue I've heard, though not confirmed through research, is that most of those illegal aliens are centralized in Minneapolis. In Texas they are spread out.

Yes Trump has made it punitive on Minneapolis specifically because of their wide scale immigrant fraud scandal. Further emboldening Trump is their refusal to assist, and in some cases their local leadership fanning the flames of public outrage.

Trump isn't innocent here, he's an ass and trying to look like he's coming down hard on Minneapolis.

It's good to know that the unqualified local police forces in Texas, Alabama, and Tennessee are using their limited resources to enforce federal immigration law rather policing their local communities.

I'm sure you'll be also be happy for local taxpayers to foot the bill when one of those local officers violates a person's constitutional rights in the process, and the county or city is on the hook for the payout.

 

[Orange_Crush]

 

[Volnanza]

Texas and Florida don’t have people actively trying to disrupt officers from doing their jobs?

Well, maybe it's because Texas and Florida have not be totally captured by the far left. Minnesota most defiantly has been captured.

 

[Orange_Crush]

That would be the prerogative of the state in question, would it not?

Is there a federal law that they must do so?

Amazing how quickly you guys abandon the whole "State's rights" argument when it isn't about reproductive rights or gay people getting married.

That's ridiculous. Most conservatives in here that I've seen have criticized the decision but have not denied the states' rights to refuse to cooperate.

We're pointing out the ridiculous accusations against ICE. States/cities don't have to cooperate, but if they decide to make ICE's job harder, it rings hollow that they criticize and attribute motives when ICE sends more agents there to do the job than they (have to) send to other cities that are cooperating and helping. It's not hard logic.

 

[ButchPlz]

That's ridiculous. Most conservatives in here that I've seen have criticized the decision but have not denied the states' rights to refuse to cooperate.

We're pointing out the ridiculous accusations against ICE. States/cities don't have to cooperate, but if they decide to make ICE's job harder, it rings hollow that they criticize and attribute motives when ICE sends more agents there to do the job than they (have to) send to other cities that are cooperating and helping. It's not hard logic.

I mean, let's boil it down to even more basic stuff.

Calling for violence then getting mad about violence (Walz and the effiminate sluggard that is the "mayor" of Minneapolis) is retarded.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Well, maybe it's because Texas and Florida have not be totally captured by the far left. Minnesota most defiantly has been captured.

It only helps their flawed argument to agree to argue from a left/right perspective. You are validating a flawed premise. It's about the amount of resources needed in any given place. It makes logical sense that more resources would be needed where there is no cooperation--whether that lack of cooperation be from democrat or republican local gov'ts.

 

[Volnanza]

Better question for you.

Why did Dem cities and states quit cooperating and notifying ICE when they arrested illegals for various crimes in the past decade?

Because it costs them votes. When you have no ID requirements, everyone votes. Some multiple times. And when your constituency is made up of illegals and criminals, then putting them in jail or deporting them costs even more votes.

 

[BeardedVol]

That's ridiculous. Most conservatives in here that I've seen have criticized the decision but have not denied the states' rights to refuse to cooperate.

We're pointing out the ridiculous accusations against ICE. States/cities don't have to cooperate, but if they decide to make ICE's job harder, it rings hollow that they criticize and attribute motives when ICE sends more agents there to do the job than they (have to) send to other cities that are cooperating and helping. It's not hard logic.

The state of Minnesota has forcibly blocked ICE?

Oh, are you're talking about the citizens of Minnesota exercising their constitutionally protected right to protest the actions of the federal government?

120,000 undocumented in Minnesota, and ICE is going door to door and detailing US citizens in the process, while places like Texas and Florida drink up the economic benefit of 2 million additonal local tax payers and consumers bring to their states.

For people who are concerned with how every single dollar is spent by every SNAP recipient, this seems like a situation where you might take issue with the ROI. Well, that and the continuous violations of the rights of US citizens as well.

 

[Orange_Crush]

The state of Minnesota has forcibly blocked ICE?

...

I'll finish reading the rest of your post once you've dealt with this bull****.

 

[ButchPlz]

The state of Minnesota has forcibly blocked ICE?

Oh, are you're talking about the citizens of Minnesota exercising their constitutionally protected right to protest the actions of the federal government?

120,000 undocumented in Minnesota, and ICE is going door to door and detailing US citizens in the process, while places like Texas and Florida drink up the economic benefit of 2 million additonal local tax payers and consumers bring to their states.

For people who are concerned with how every single dollar is spent by every SNAP recipient, this seems like a situation where you might take issue with the ROI. Well, that and the continuous violations of the rights of US citizens as well.

Dude, burning **** down and stealing isn't a peacaeble protest nor is it protected by any law in any country on the planet.

We all know you're stupid, but doubling down hints at something more akin to actual mental illness.

 

[BeardedVol]

I'll finish reading the rest of your post once you've dealt with this bull****.

Ah I forgot, Walz and Frey said 'mean things' about ICE and you guys go full snowflake when it's anyone besides the object of your political worship that says the 'mean thing'.

Carry-on.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Ah I forgot, Walz and Frey said 'mean things' about ICE and you guys go full snowflake when it's anyone besides the object of your political worship that says the 'mean thing'.

Carry-on.

Is it your normal practice to critique posts without reading them? Or do you actually read them without any form of comprehension ability? Or do you read them and make a conscious effort to misrepresent them?

Carry on, I guess.

 

[hog88]

That would be the prerogative of the state in question, would it not?

Is there a federal law that they must do so?

Amazing how quickly you guys abandon the whole "State's rights" argument when it isn't about reproductive rights or gay people getting married.

I hope you continue this mindset into the next Dem administration when a state refuses to enforce a federal gun law.

I think it's great.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[KB5252]

It's good to know that the unqualified local police forces in Texas, Alabama, and Tennessee are using their limited resources to enforce federal immigration law rather policing their local communities.

I'm sure you'll be also be happy for local taxpayers to foot the bill when one of those local officers violates a person's constitutional rights in the process, and the county or city is on the hook for the payout.

No, they are cooperating, as in notifying when a criminal illegal is arrested so ICE can process them. Isn't that the way it should work?

In cases where a large scale event may be taking place they provide crowd control as needed. Something they are much better equipped to do than ICE officers. This is policing their local communities. Crowd control and public safety is one of any police forces directives.

There's plenty of blame to go around but you seem completely at odds with the role of ICE. They are performing the same job almost everywhere in the country as they did under Obama. Why is there a problem with that?

 

[BeardedVol]

Dude, burning **** down and stealing isn't a peacaeble protest nor is it protected by any law in any country on the planet.

We all know you're stupid, but doubling down hints at something more akin to actual mental illness.

Lol, there are literal videos of ICE agents shooting pepper balls, point blank, into the faces of people standing on public sidewalks, and you want to throw out nonsense about "burning and stealing violence?

Video Shows Feds Shooting ICE Protester With Nonlethal Round at Point-Blank Range, Blinding Him in One Eye

The incident raises more questions about federal agents' use-of-force policies and training.

www.yahoo.com

I know I shouldn't be, but I'm truly amazed at how much you "1a/2a warriors" just go out of your way to bootlick in these scenarios. Then again, it feeds the narrative that you sold yourself, that immigrants are the cause of all of your ills.

One has to wonder who you will blame next if you run out of immigrants.