Too much ice

[luthervol]

You mean, a bigger discussion than whether he was justified?

In a "too much ice" thread???????? Certainly

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Obviously because she thought the activities by ice were wrong and and deserved/needed to be protested.

She has a right to protest that's fine but has no right to interfere w/LEO or agents w/their job.

 

[luthervol]

The "mother" who allowed her lesbian wife physically abuse her kids and let her put lit cigarettes out on her kids arms/legs (she lost custody of 2 out of 3 kids for good BTW) and then left the 3rd child to get paid by an NGO to go six states over and "protest/resist"

How about that link?

 

[EasternVol]

She may have been trying in the act of passing him. But his first shot wen thru the windshield, so she had yet to actually pass him.

The windshield isn’t the leading edge of a car . You can be beside the hood and shoot the windshield.

 

[hog88]

Jimmy Kimmel still doing the left talking lying points. Oh, she's so innocent.

No, the FCC doesn't need to step in at all. His sponsors need to step in.

 

[Rickyvol77]

The windshield isn’t the leading edge of a car . You can be beside the hood and shoot the windshield.

You clearly didn't see the picture of the bullet hole or also don't understand ballistics. It wasn't an angle.

 

[CobbVol]

From what I've seen they can arrest her if they see her commit a federal crime, but they have to inform her she's under arrest.

They would have done so after she turned off her car and exited the vehicle as they requested,

 

[luthervol]

You clearly didn't see the picture of the bullet hole or also don't understand ballistics. It wasn't an angle.

How about that link?

 

[bamawriter]

The windshield isn’t the leading edge of a car . You can be beside the hood and shoot the windshield.

True. But he was still in a position where he was more likely to be struck when he opened fire. If his first shots had gone thru her door or window, then I think there's a better case to be made.

 

[Orange_Crush]

The windshield isn’t the leading edge of a car . You can be beside the hood and shoot the windshield.

From where the bullet hole was in the windshield, it would not have hit her, and would probably have deflected, if he'd shot while standing beside the vehicle. For the record, I posted a screenshot of the moment the shot rang out in the video, and he wasn't standing beside the car.

 

[Volnanza]

It appears that they had been following ICE around and harassing them all day. It looks to me like she just FOFAed herself. When cops tell you to leave and you don't, then you are instigating. No sympathy here. Her lesbian "husband" was crying about being sorry to have pushed her to harass the cops. What stupidity. This is what the left has done.

 

[EasternVol]

He doesn't have to move out of the way, and he had almost been killed being ran over by a vehicle previously by a similar criminal

Yeah, he doesn't have to, he can just kill the driver, sieg heil.
What are the details on his previous incident?

 

[Rickyvol77]

Yeah, he doesn't have to, he can just kill the driver, sieg heil.
What are the details on his previous incident?

lol this is silly, officers don't want to go thru the investigation, hassle, paperwork to "get to kill" someone

self-defense is self-defense, either you understand it or don't

Now if you want to point to training or some such thing about placing yourself in front of a suspect's vehicle ever, sure have at it.

But an officer can do that to attempt to block someone from fleeing and defend himself if need be.

Her actions dictated the results of the entire incident start to finish

 

[luthervol]

Yeah, he doesn't have to, he can just kill the driver, sieg heil.
What are the details on his previous incident?

good luck getting that info from @Rickyvol77

He made some horrible accusations about the woman's character and is now running from it.

 

[appvol]

Yeah, he doesn't have to, he can just kill the driver, sieg heil.
What are the details on his previous incident?

She got what she deserved for putting herself in that situation.

 

[luthervol]

lol this is silly, officers don't want to go thru the investigation, hassle, paperwork to "get to kill" someone

self-defense is self-defense, either you understand it or don't

Now if you want to point to training or some such thing about placing yourself in front of a suspect's vehicle ever, sure have at it.

But an officer can do that to attempt to block someone from fleeing and defend himself if need be.

Her actions dictated the results of the entire incident start to finish

How about that link???

 

[EasternVol]

Legally or morally?

There’s a difference and a substantial gap in between it really feels like almost everybody is arguing that it falls in between without acknowledging that there is any difference in the two.

My concern is the moral aspect.
Ideally they'd be the same but I suppose there's only so much we can do with words.

 

[theFallGuy]

Obviously because she thought the activities by ice were wrong and and deserved/needed to be protested.

blocking law enforcement with your vehicle isn't protesting, it's literally putting yourself in harm's way IMO and incredibly stupid.

 

[Vol8188]

The thing about the left is they make you expend energy and time defending yourself against their lies.

They only have to get the fringe to believe it for a short time and it's a successful propaganda campaign.

A few years from now no one will remember it and she will be name on their list of “unjustified murders by the police”. Along with Michael Brown and so many others

It’s 100% dishonest and gross. But effective

 

[EasternVol]

As YOU see it doesn't matter, the officer (who had almost been killed in similar situation previously) made a split second decision, and the law is on his side.

I do believe he absolutely thought after the bumper hit him that he may be seriously injured or killed, which is why the first shot went straight thru the windshield in a straight line to her face

As I see it absolutely matters as much as how anyone else on this board sees it.
How does the agent keep getting himself in this situation? Seems like he'd have known to move aside after the first time.

 

[EasternVol]

I've been in at least a dozen or more incidents where I could have been legally justified to use deadly force, and only once had I came close to doing so.

Stick to what you know

Good for you, seriously.

 

[Rickyvol77]

good luck getting that info from @Rickyvol77

He made some horrible accusations about the woman's character and is now running from it.

I am not running from anything, I just ignore you because you wouldn't believe it anyway.

Go research it yourself, HINT - check out court and police reports with her maiden name and wife's name.

 

[Rickyvol77]

As I see it absolutely matters as much as how anyone else on this board sees it.
How does the agent keep getting himself in this situation? Seems like he'd have known to move aside after the first time.

Because when an agency makes 650,000 physical arrests of tons of violent criminals and anarchy style crowds of more criminals that support them, you will have tons of physical threats and assaults

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Here's the video again of the officer being hit and threaten w/bodily harm w/car.

 

[Vol8188]

How about that link?

Nice still picture