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Skooter said:
And I’ll use strawman for first time ever just because you cry about it daily yet too oblivious to realize you do it all the time.
Keep defending people who threaten others because they vote like you do. Never change.
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I'm not surprised you don't know what a strawman is. Pointing out that DHS lies constantly isn't one of them, but your "defending" and "crying" statements sure are, as I've told you already. If you're that clueless, consult a dictionary. See you next time you embarrass yourself 😘
 
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NashVol11 said:
I'm not surprised you don't know what a strawman is. Pointing out that DHS lies constantly isn't one of them, but your "defending" and "crying" statements sure are, as I've told you already. If you're that clueless, consult a dictionary. See you next time you embarrass yourself 😘
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Do "protestors" ever lie or no?
 
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NashVol11 said:
I'm not surprised you don't know what a strawman is. Pointing out that DHS lies constantly isn't one of them, but your "defending" and "crying" statements sure are, as I've told you already. If you're that clueless, consult a dictionary. See you next time you embarrass yourself
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Strawman is not addressing the point made which you clearly didnt and deflected to something totally different to make your point.
You cry about it so often I figured you would know.
And I don’t get embarrassed, especially by a domestic and international terrorist sympathizer.
 
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Skooter said:
Strawman is not addressing the point made which you clearly didnt and deflected to something totally different to make your point.
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Pointing out that the source isn't trustworthy at all isn't a strawman. Whip that dictionary back out.
Skooter said:
You cry about it so often I figured you would know.
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However, this is a thing you simply made up ^
Skooter said:
And I don’t get embarrassed, especially by a domestic and international terrorist sympathizer.
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And this is another one lol. I was joking when I said you can't go one single post without lying or strawmanning but you're determined to prove me right
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
You automatically believe people on your side when the evidence points otherwise consistently. And you excuse their illegal and violent behavior because of it.
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Statements from a highly politicized DHS that lies constantly aren't "evidence" any more than statements from Trump about the war being over are
 
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NashVol11 said:
Statements from a highly politicized DHS that lies constantly aren't "evidence" any more than statements from Trump about the war being over are
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Ok but you stated yourself in this thread that the use of force against these "protestors" was wrong because of what they were protesting, which there's no evidence of whatsoever.

Not to mention the fact you still tried to cover for their violent crimes, when DHS/State police followed use of force laws appropriately and legally
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Ok but you stated yourself in this thread that the use of force against these "protestors" was wrong because of what they were protesting, which there's no evidence of whatsoever.

Not to mention the fact you still tried to cover for their violent crimes, when DHS/State police followed use of force laws appropriately and legally
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I didn't say anything about right or wrong, you came in here talking about how words aren't violence and protests are but then completely flipped when you realized most of the violence was coming from other direction, so moved the goalposts to "well the violence was justified"
 
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Substance? Here’s substance:
You claimed a protestor was just using mean words while threatening to kill a man and his children.
Thats enough substance for everybody to know what you are.
 
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Skooter said:
Substance? Here’s substance:
You claimed a protestor was just using mean words while threatening to kill a man and his children.
Thats enough substance for everybody to know what you are.
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You don't know what substance is either 😭 can't make it up.

"Substance? Here's substance: you said 'mean words' instead of 'threat'" hahahaha
 
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NashVol11 said:
I didn't say anything about right or wrong, you came in here talking about how words aren't violence and protests are but then completely flipped when you realized most of the violence was coming from other direction, so moved the goalposts to "well the violence was justified"
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I said words aren't violence EXCEPT for direct illegal death threats which is the difference (but you refuse to acknowledge the difference all the time)

Also, the use of force occurred because of actual violence the "protestors" started, blocking roadways, beating on cars, assaulting officers, throwing things, verbally threatening to kill families, etc.

There is no goalposts to be move, I am ALWAYS consistent on use of force and when it's appropiate
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
I said words aren't violence EXCEPT for direct illegal death threats which is the difference (but you refuse to acknowledge the difference all the time)

Also, the use of force occurred because of actual violence the "protestors" started, blocking roadways, beating on cars, assaulting officers, throwing things, verbally threatening to kill families, etc.

There is no goalposts to be move, I am ALWAYS consistent on use of force and when it's appropiate
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No one was arguing about when use of force is appropriate until you moved the goalposts there lol
 
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NashVol11 said:
No one was arguing about when use of force is appropriate until you moved the goalposts there lol
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NashVol11 said:
Your sole comment on the Delaney Hall situation, which includes a hunger strike due to maggots in food, inadequate medical care, apparently not allowing reps a full tour which is a violation of law, and batons and pepper spray used on protestors is to criticize some meaningless random individual protestor for mean words. Never change
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This was the comment I replied to.

You stated two unproven things that there's little evidence of (hunger strike/maggots, and medical care issue), then a complete lie (not allow reps a tour which is violation of law)

Then you said "batons/pepper spray used on protestors to critcize some meaningless random individual protestor for mean words" which is 100% BS statement

The use of force was for actual violent felonies and the "mean words" were actual literal death threats of an officer and their family.

You tried to use the made up/unsubstantiated BS to justify the actual criminal behavior of the protestors, even trying to minimize their actual violent crimes
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
This was the comment I replied to.

You stated two unproven things that there's little evidence of (hunger strike/maggots, and medical care issue), then a complete lie (not allow reps a tour which is violation of law)

Then you said "batons/pepper spray used on protestors to critcize some meaningless random individual protestor for mean words" which is 100% BS statement

The use of force was for actual violent felonies and the "mean words" were actual literal death threats of an officer and their family.

You tried to use the made up/unsubstantiated BS to justify the actual criminal behavior of the protestors, even trying to minimize their actual violent crimes
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Brother you can argue that throwing a traffic cone is a "violent felony" until you're blue in the face and it won't change the fact that there are much bigger issues around the Delaney Hall situation for most people than some random protestor threatening an ICE agent, which was the extremely obvious point of my post
 
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NashVol11 said:
Your sole comment on the Delaney Hall situation, which includes a hunger strike due to maggots in food, inadequate medical care, apparently not allowing reps a full tour which is a violation of law, and batons and pepper spray used on protestors is to criticize some meaningless random individual protestor for mean words. Never change
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How many lies can you fit in one sentence. This might be a record.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Brother you can argue that throwing a traffic cone is a "violent felony" until you're blue in the face and it won't change the fact that there are much bigger issues around the Delaney Hall situation for most people than some random protestor threatening an ICE agent, which was the extremely obvious point of my post
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Throwing an object or hitting any body especially a LEO is a violent felony genius....I don't care if there WERE maggots in the jail food, no one has a right to assault anyone else.

Go down the street find a NYPD officer standing there and throw a traffic cone at him and said you are going to kill him and his kids.....see what happens and let me know

You justify criminality or terrorism all the time, it's simply who you are and how you were raised by your mother

Also there is no evidence of ANY type issue at Delaney Hall...it's an astroturfed crowd wanting to cause violence with no real evidence
 
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