Too much ice

[hog88]

In "the feds are totally stupid" news, US taxpayers will be footing the bill for a class action lawsuit for a raid we have already overpaid for. Nearly 200 agents (FBI and ICE) raided an Idaho race track and illegally detained 300 lawful, legal Americans for hours and hours as they made 5 gambling related arrests (probably for bookmaking on the side), and arrested 100 seemingly non-criminal immigrants.

We taxpayers are getting devil's 3-wayed on this and MAGA will still provide unwavering bootlicking.

Hopefully the US citizens prevail although some of the claims are suspect. Here are a couple links (since Huff refuses to post them) about the raid.

After Disputed ICE Raid, Lawsuit Tries New Approach to Accountability

14-year-old girl describes being zip-tied during October raid involving ICE in Idaho

 

[rekinhavoc]

So Hillary lied about the harshness and efficacy of ICE, which is exactly what Trump's admin is doing, and you posted 10 tweets about it as if it's something you have a problem with?

Yep

 

[n_huffhines]

Yep

So then you have a problem with the Trump admin for lying about the harshness and efficacy of ICE, right?

 

[Hoosier_Vol]

 

[n_huffhines]

"Democrats are protesting to protect him"

Stop getting your news from the most FOS people.

 

[Orangeslice13]

There’s no place for dissent in the United States of America.

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Odd the people who didn’t like this post.
I’d think it would be just as bad as collecting names and such when the other side did it.

Odd

 

[Hoosier_Vol]

 

[rekinhavoc]

So then you have a problem with the Trump admin for lying about the harshness and efficacy of ICE, right?

I won't argue with you.

 

[n_huffhines]

I won't argue with you.

Because that would make you a hypocrite and you're not a hypocrite?

 

[CobbVol]

Odd the people who didn’t like this post.
I’d think it would be just as bad as collecting names and such when the other side did it.

Odd

I don't like it if true. However, what I currently see is an anonymous sourced NYT article related to 4 companies who are very much anti this administration. Is what the NYT reporting the truth or were the subpoenas less dramatic than reported? Time hopefully helps.

 

[n_huffhines]

Imagine thinking a fight for the bill of rights makes you "far" anything.

 

[NashVol11]

I don't like it if true. However, what I currently see is an anonymous sourced NYT article related to 4 companies who are very much anti this administration. Is what the NYT reporting the truth or were the subpoenas less dramatic than reported? Time hopefully helps.

Zuckerberg has not been "anti-this administration" at all

 

[NashVol11]

So, knowingly violating the Constitution it is

 

[Orangeslice13]

I don't like it if true. However, what I currently see is an anonymous sourced NYT article related to 4 companies who are very much anti this administration. Is what the NYT reporting the truth or were the subpoenas less dramatic than reported? Time hopefully helps.

Fair.
If Huff had posted it then I’d assume it was BS but Lawrence Welk is usually solid. But as a gator he probably has a low IQ.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Because that would make you a hypocrite and you're not a hypocrite?

Lol. You do you.

 

[CobbVol]

We may not need shades because the future may not be so bright ...

From the article:

Administrators shuttered classrooms, stopped instruction, and mobilized students as pawns for far-left activism. The scandal is not that students have opinions. The scandal is that the same institutions that struggle to teach civics have no trouble organizing political demonstrations as they fail at their most basic job: education.

According to the latest NAEP data, barely 25 percent of American students can read, write, or do math at grade level. Students’ understanding of American history and civic knowledge is even worse. Only 13 percent of eighth-graders performed at or above proficient level in American history, and 22 percent in civics. In any other industry, no one would tolerate these results, so why do we?

My Students Protesting ICE Cannot Pass U.S. Citizenship Exam

It is time to restore education's core mission: knowledge first, civics always, activism never.

thefederalist.com

 

[NashVol11]

We may not need shades because the future may not be so bright ...

From the article:

Administrators shuttered classrooms, stopped instruction, and mobilized students as pawns for far-left activism. The scandal is not that students have opinions. The scandal is that the same institutions that struggle to teach civics have no trouble organizing political demonstrations as they fail at their most basic job: education.

According to the latest NAEP data, barely 25 percent of American students can read, write, or do math at grade level. Students’ understanding of American history and civic knowledge is even worse. Only 13 percent of eighth-graders performed at or above proficient level in American history, and 22 percent in civics. In any other industry, no one would tolerate these results, so why do we?

My Students Protesting ICE Cannot Pass U.S. Citizenship Exam

It is time to restore education's core mission: knowledge first, civics always, activism never.

thefederalist.com

"People on the other side didn't get good education" is maybe not the smartest thing for MAGA of all people to be bringing up

 

[n_huffhines]

You fools!

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Minnesota Democrats demand Reparations from ICE after Losing $18 Billion to Somali Fraud​

Tim Walz and Jacob Frey seek federal reimbursement as state faces scrutiny over massive social services Fraud reportedly linked to Somali immigrant community​

Top Minnesota Democrats are demanding the federal government "pay for what they broke" following weeks of DHS’ immigration enforcement surge — a demand that comes after fraudsters stole as much as $18 billion from taxpayers who funded the state’s social services programs under their watch.

Embattled Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz and Minneapolis Democratic Mayor Jacob Frey both made public overtures to the feds for reimbursement for usage of state and city resources and recouping of other alleged damages.

David Hoch, a Minnesota journalist who traveled to various alleged fraudulent childcares, testified to Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, in a recent hearing that the cost to taxpayers could be "easily in excess of $30 billion when you take everything into account."


Some of the state programs defrauded get part or all of their funds for disbursement from federal coffers, meaning taxpayers nationwide contributed to the pot defrauded in Minnesota.

Minnesota Democrats demand reparations from ICE after losing $18 billion to Somali fraud

Minnesota Democrats seek federal reparations after ICE operations while allegedly ignoring $18 billion in fraud losses to taxpayers from social programs.

www.foxnews.com

 

[CagleMtnVol]

You fools!

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The woman was arrested by ICE when she was encountered when ICE/FBI was executing a federal search warrent raid on a home related to drug trafficking.

 

[DirtyDawg]

Apparently, ICE agents are not being trained properly. If someone interferes with their duty, arrest them for interfering with a federal agent, don't shoot them. We do need to be able to enforce our own immigration laws, which means deporting people who have entered this country illegally, but ICE doesn't seem to have a grasp on how to do it in a proper way. There are laws for how to get here. Yes, we need to reform some of those laws and processes for citizenship, but it's still no excuse for crossing our borders illegally. If you want to be a citizen of this country, follow the laws. This country is made of immigrants but follow the correct process to come here. And ICE agents need to be trained properly in crowd control and apprehension. It's not okay to just kill people.

While I’ve been reading some of these political threads, I don’t post or comment on them often. Mostly because I don’t feel I have a strong understanding of the circumstances or what is going on in reality surrounding these circumstances, but I think you hit the nail squarely on the head when you stated that ICE agents aren’t being trained properly.

That just makes sense to me. With everything going on, I’m sure we have had to drastically increase the number of ICE agents and do it quickly. So where are they coming from? I read somewhere, have no idea if it’s true, that the training program for an ICE federal agent has went from around 5 months to somewhere in the neighborhood of 45 days. Not sure if that’s accurate, but it would make sense bc we needed to drastically increase their number and we needed to do it quickly, and this would help explain their lack of training.

The point you make about being trained properly in crowd control seems like an obvious issue to me. I would think that agents would take every possible and logical step to de-escalate tensions especially with regards to dealing with a large and growing crowd, yet it doesn’t seem to me that they, in a broad sense, have been able to do this with effect. I assume that this is a direct result of lack of proper training.

 

[rekinhavoc]

 

[Sea Ray]

You fools!

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Good point. We do need more nurses...

 

[BowlBrother85]

We may not need shades because the future may not be so bright ...

From the article:

Administrators shuttered classrooms, stopped instruction, and mobilized students as pawns for far-left activism. The scandal is not that students have opinions. The scandal is that the same institutions that struggle to teach civics have no trouble organizing political demonstrations as they fail at their most basic job: education.

According to the latest NAEP data, barely 25 percent of American students can read, write, or do math at grade level. Students’ understanding of American history and civic knowledge is even worse. Only 13 percent of eighth-graders performed at or above proficient level in American history, and 22 percent in civics. In any other industry, no one would tolerate these results, so why do we?

My Students Protesting ICE Cannot Pass U.S. Citizenship Exam

It is time to restore education's core mission: knowledge first, civics always, activism never.

thefederalist.com

Based on how many Native Americans have been arrested by ICE for immigration violations since last fall, I'm not so sure that some ICE agents could pass the citizenship exam either.

Per the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, Native Americans born in the United States are U.S. citizens, and cannot be detained or deported for immigration violations .... and yet, that is happening on a regular basis right now.

 

[hog88]

Based on how many Native Americans have been arrested by ICE for immigration violations since last fall, I'm not so sure that some ICE agents could pass the citizenship exam either.

Per the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, Native Americans born in the United States are U.S. citizens, and cannot be detained or deported for immigration violations.

How many have been arrested and for what?