Too much ice

I’ve thought about this post and I’ve got to have some more information before I can agree with you. What did the lady do to justify the officer putting his hands on her? If it was simply being an annoying pest he had no justification and dude stepping in was justified and IMO legal. Just need more information on that.
Dude. I don’t like it anymore than you but the law is the law and you can’t interfere.

The agents are making an arrest and she’s yelling in his ear by the car in the middle of the street. She puts her hands on the agent who then walked her back to the curb knocking her down along the way. When they get to the curb she comes back at the agent and gets shoved down. The victim grabs the agent and gets pepper sprayed then shoved on top of the woman. The law is clear if you look it up. You don’t get to interfere with officers and agents making arrests.

But for the 1000th time. They can be wrong and commit 100 felonies and that doesn’t negate the murder charge that should be handed to the agent who shot an unarmed man in the back.
 
Her state of shock is acceptable, but none of the agents are given any benefit of the doubt here?

Pretti resisting doesn’t matter?
The chaos from other protesters/sh*tbirds interfering?
Whistles and bullhorns in their faces daily?
Highly stressful situations have no bearing?

It’s unfortunate Pretti is dead at the hands of an officer that clearly F’d up, but to act as if Pretti didn’t contribute to this 💩show is absurd.
Keep in mind that I would not have been wearing a pistol anywhere near those trigger happy Neanderthals and that was poor judgment but where exactly was Pretti resisting? No video shows that. He was trying to help the woman that got shoved down. The agents initiated the confrontation. Period. You sure are going to great lengths to defend an execution.
 
You should be allowed to carry everywhere that’s public yes.

Chaotic situations is exactly when I’d want to be armed. You’d want to be defenseless in a situation that’s more likely to need it?

Let me clarify. The type of environment he went to with whatever intention he had on his mind, no.

Carry and stay away from trouble if you can, yes. Carry and insert one's self into the middle of a volatile situation that you have no business being involved in? No.
 
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He didn’t grab, it’s debatable if he even touched the agent. Which I agree wasn’t wise to get in between but also understandable. A grown man had just shoved a women down right in front of him

If they were interfering why were neither of the women arrested? If they weren’t interfering then they had zero authority to arrest and the shoving and “fight” was initiated by the agent.
Law says “contact”
So touching the agent gets you in handcuffs.

I’m just telling you what I found out reading the law. Who they arrested and why is anybody’s guess.


Let’s try it this way.
-If they did nothing wrong then the agent who shot is guilty of murder.
-if they were guilty of a crapload of felonies then the agent who shot is guilty of murder.

The only thing that matters in this case is when and why the agent shot an unarmed man
 
Dude. I don’t like it anymore than you but the law is the law and you can’t interfere.

The agents are making an arrest and she’s yelling in his ear by the car in the middle of the street. She puts her hands on the agent who then walked her back to the curb knocking her down along the way. When they get to the curb she comes back at the agent and gets shoved down. The victim grabs the agent and gets pepper sprayed then shoved on top of the woman. The law is clear if you look it up. You don’t get to interfere with officers and agents making arrests.

But for the 1000th time. They can be wrong and commit 100 felonies and that doesn’t negate the murder charge that should be handed to the agent who shot an unarmed man in the back.

I haven’t seen that video showing what she was doing. Once she put her hands on the officer I agree that’s ballgame and the nurse had no business getting involved.
 
Keep in mind that I would not have been wearing a pistol anywhere near those trigger happy Neanderthals and that was poor judgment but where exactly was Pretti resisting? No video shows that. He was trying to help the woman that got shoved down. The agents initiated the confrontation. Period. You sure are going to great lengths to defend an execution.

When Pretti was on the ground with multiple officers attempting to subdue him. He clearly wasn't complying if they're trying to gain control of him.

I'm trying to see it from all angles, not just one side. Not sure how that labels me as defending ICE.
 
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ICE is in all the states have arrested and deported 10x the criminals in both FL and TX. Ask yourself why Minneapolis is the only city where violence is happening.
It's a fair question.

There is plenty of blame to go around. You can't ignore the politics at play here. The Trump Administration's tone towards enforcing immigration laws in Minnesota has been combative since the moment the Somali social services fraud scandal broke. The disgust with Gov. Tim Walz and Minnesota's state government being asleep at the wheel is understandable, but the administration's tone has created a more hostile environment than what would have been present with a more even-tempered approach. Both sides have been whipped into a frenzy.

.... and the Trump Administration's response to the shooting death of Renee Good was callous. Some of these same people called the shooting of Ashli Babbitt on January 6, 2021 in the United States Capitol a "cold-blooded murder" ..... It all comes down to what tribal politics have done to society in the United States .
 
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Law says “contact”
So touching the agent gets you in handcuffs.

I’m just telling you what I found out reading the law. Who they arrested and why is anybody’s guess.


Let’s try it this way.
-If they did nothing wrong then the agent who shot is guilty of murder.
-if they were guilty of a crapload of felonies then the agent who shot is guilty of murder.

The only thing that matters in this case is when and why the agent shot an unarmed man
I’m aware, just like with cops can’t use unreasonable force. The actions even before the shooting would not hold up to that

That’s true, but people wanna say that he approached the officers or attacked them. That’s fantasy
 
I haven’t seen that video showing what she was doing. Once she put her hands on the officer I agree that’s ballgame and the nurse had no business getting involved.
Look at the video posted here.
It goes towards the ground and comes back up to the street. You can see the lady standing back up from the first time the agent shoved her down in the middle of the street. I can’t find the other video that shows it clearly.

It was an ongoing exchange between the agent and the woman. Before the victim got involved
 
Blasting an air horn in someone’s face could be assault

Yeah, especially following them to do so. I’m not 100% sure that’s what happens. But it’s what seems to be happening. The bottom video on his post shows it well. Also shows the agent wasn’t after going after her but rather she chased him down to do so
 

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