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What this UCLA class will teach us is whether winning at a high level in college basketball has more to do with coaching or recruiting
 
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omghulkhands said:
What this UCLA class will teach us is whether winning at a high level in college basketball has more to do with coaching or recruiting
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IMO you must have both, kind of a happy medium.

You can't have all these guys and not coach em and expect success. At the same time I don't think you can have a team full of 2* and achieve too much success either. You need at least a little of both.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Guess I'll be the first in this thread to ask...

Does anyone else think this epic class from howland is a bit fishy?

Considering the horrid year, the bad reports that came out, and possibly howlands final year, how do you pull this class?
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legit question - I thought after all the stuff in the media (and the being terrible, not being on television) he would have trouble recruiting but I suppose not...we'll see how the story unfolds.
 
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Parker said it himself, he had 3 great players pushing him to come to ucla. Once Muhammad went, it was hard for Parker to overlook ucla imo. Very enticing to go play by the number 2 best guy in the country.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Guess I'll be the first in this thread to ask...

Does anyone else think this epic class from howland is a bit fishy?

Considering the horrid year, the bad reports that came out, and possibly howlands final year, how do you pull this class?
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Been saying that for a while now. Ever since the McD's AA game, it was stated that Bazz and Parker had both decided on UCLA. Something happened around that time to "push" them to the Bruins.
 
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BigPapaCat said:
Parker said it himself, he had 3 great players pushing him to come to ucla. Once Muhammad went, it was hard for Parker to overlook ucla imo. Very enticing to go play by the number 2 best guy in the country.
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Shabazz is the best player in the 2012 class, that became evident in the AA games.

That's not me hating on UK, there are many that feel that way.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
Been saying that for a while now. Ever since the McD's AA game, it was stated that Bazz and Parker had both decided on UCLA. Something happened around that time to "push" them to the Bruins.
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I guess the question is do you blame howland?

A bad year he was probably gone, so why not pull some shady stuff, hope you don't get caught and land a class that's #1?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Shabazz is the best player in the 2012 class, that became evident in the AA games.

That's not me hating on UK, there are many that feel that way.
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He is the best talent hands down, but I want to see his attitude, because there seems to be a me first syndrome. Best player might be premature. A great example was harrison barnes being labeled the best player in last years crop, yet when it was all said and done he was probably the 4th or 5th.
 
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Hardwood_fanatic said:
He is the best talent hands down, but I want to see his attitude, because there seems to be a me first syndrome. Best player might be premature. A great example was harrison barnes being labeled the best player in last years crop, yet when it was all said and done he was probably the 4th or 5th.
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Very true.

I think ShabaZz has some attitude issues but I think he'll be fine at UCLA. He knows sucks it up 1 year, behave then go to the league.

I'm sure I'll get bashed for this, that's ok, but my opinion was more based on noel than ShabaZz. As I said I expet ShabaZz to be fine and have a great year, and basically meet expectations. However, I don't think Noel will, I think he's going to dissapoint. Not saying hell be bad by any stretch, but right now they say he'd have gone #1. My prediction, he won't be the #1 draft pick next year. Jmo

Also, I don't know that that's fair on barnes, 4th or 5th best that class? I count kyrie Irving and that's it as far as head and shoulders better.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Very true.

I think ShabaZz has some attitude issues but I think he'll be fine at UCLA. He knows sucks it up 1 year, behave then go to the league.

I'm sure I'll get bashed for this, that's ok, but my opinion was more based on noel than ShabaZz. As I said I expet ShabaZz to be fine and have a great year, and basically meet expectations. However, I don't think Noel will, I think he's going to dissapoint. Not saying hell be bad by any stretch, but right now they say he'd have gone #1. My prediction, he won't be the #1 draft pick next year. Jmo

Also, I don't know that that's fair on barnes, 4th or 5th best that class? I count kyrie Irving and that's it as far as head and shoulders better.
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Sullinger, irving and knight all turned out to be better players for their"team" than barnes.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I guess the question is do you blame howland?

A bad year he was probably gone, so why not pull some shady stuff, hope you don't get caught and land a class that's #1?
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You gotta follow the money to ADIDAS. UCLA opening up pauley this year, Howland failing, 2012 Championship won by Nike's flagship squad.

UCLA, the ADIDAS flagship (for bball), doing poorly doesn't sell very many shoes. Bazz's dad is employed by ADIDAS. That explains Bazz, something must've gone down with Parker as well. Prior to the McD's AA game, UCLA wasn't even in the running for him.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Guess I'll be the first in this thread to ask...

Does anyone else think this epic class from howland is a bit fishy?

Considering the horrid year, the bad reports that came out, and possibly howlands final year, how do you pull this class?
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Wouldnt you wanna go to college and play ball in LA? I mean LA>>> Any other college town imo.
 
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Hardwood_fanatic said:
Sullinger, irving and knight all turned out to be better players for their"team" than barnes.
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Sullinger, THIS YEAR, wasn't nearly as good or efficient, as last year IMO. Id argue Barnes was as good if not better than sullinger this year.

Going off last year, yea knight was probably better, but as far as their team barnes was pretty crucial this year With all the injuries.
 
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dooleydiesel28 said:
I know you're kidding but i agree that is a laughable comparisson he may be better at blocking shots but every other asset of his game is nowhere near as good as davis..
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And I dont think he'll be better at blocking shots either. Maybe he was in HS, but to think hell be a better college shot locker than Davis is absurd...

Davis was one of the best shot blockers ever to play in the NCAA. To think Noel will duplicate that the very next year isn't very smart. My biggest question...foul trouble(leaving his feet). Most shot kickers have that problem, especially as freshman, Davis was amazing at avoiding both. Noel was flying off his feet and in foul trouble all night, in an ALL STAR game in which fouls arent called. If that's an indication of how he plays, that alone should end the comparison. I don't even need to start explaining the offensive differences between the 2.
 
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