Tony Basilio is right about Guarantano

#76
#76
I think you're exactly right. He just wanted the moment to be over with. Watching him play QB is like watching somebody struggle with public speaking. You know he can do it, but his brain just won't let him.


Orr

He wanted to be the guy that beat Bama to try and get his job back. “Look at me I’m the hero that finally beat Bama” Hero ball never works and with some of the post game comments I surprised there wasn’t a fight.
 
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#77
#77
I don't think we should boo a player....

I also don't think CJP and Chaney can afford to put JG on the field as the starter for multiple reasons.

1. Chaney's comments about JG's play have come out over the last 2 TV game broadcasts --he isn't making the "lay-up" throws...
He is failing to make correct reads and audibles...etc..etc... that put us in bad offensive positions in games.

2. And now--if I'm JG's teammate--I simply can't overlook his selfish and stupid decision on the goal line against BAMA.
The players have all the information that we as fans don't and can't acquire as they review the film of the game.
CJP plays the GOOD, BAD, and UGLY from the game.

JG did have some equity of trust built from his performance during the Miss. State game.
But he threw it all away with his performance against BAMA. And it wasn't just the play on the goal line...

He also missed a wide open Jennings at the other end of the field in the 3rd QTR on a play that could've made it 28-17 instead of 28-13.
Ultimately--the score should've been 28-24 midway thru the 4th QTR...if JG can simply execute the plays that are there for the taking!
And that fact has gotten lost in the conversation, too!


And his teammates ALL KNOW IT.

So, IMO, JG simply cannot be allowed to start another game for us unless he's the only healthy QB on the team.

GO VOLS!
 
#78
#78
I think I mentioned it at some point in the game thread but he just cannot identify blitzes in my novice opinion. Why he didnt call TO is beyond me too. That's just a complete lack of situational awareness.

Why did he NEED to call a TO?????

They had a play called that would've resulted in a TD....he just needed to RUN THE DAM*&^^^ PLAY!
 
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#79
#79
The frustration with watching him play ended a long time ago for me. Vol fans must realize that with JG as a starter, what little chance we had at a bowl game is over.

I think jg starts if maurer isn't able, but sure dont agree or understand why. Shrout or even jennings should start over jg. The whole team does not play as good with jg. We have no chance to win with jg, we dont know if we have a chance with shrout so why not. If jg starts sc will play to stop the run and they will if they stack the line. At least with shrout they will have to respect his passing with just a few downfield passes whether complete or not. And then we can run on them.
 
#80
#80
SC is good. If JG starts that will let the air out of the team and the fans and it will be over before the first stupid mistake. That's almost like poor ole idiot Third and Chavis. He keeps letting opposing offensives march down the field all they want by playing loose on defense and believing they won't score or having a kicker with a hurt leg, can only kick the ball three feet off the ground and send him out to kick it into that Bama guy, Cody, again while you 'hope' he won't do that.
 
#81
#81
Um, we beat Mississippi State with him playing. He made a few really nice throws to keep the offense moving and seal the win. He is inconsistent and looks really bad at times, but you have to give credit where credit is due.

He didnt start, and we had a lead when he came in the game. The rest of the team knew he was only in because of injury to maurer. We would not have won if jg started the game. Jg record speaks for itself.
 
#82
#82
Directly booing a college player at home is about as weak as it gets.
Unfortunately, we heard how weak a noticeable amount of fans sounded during the Mississippi State game when JG came in. Anyone that doesn't believe the fan base in the stands booing ANY player at home will affect whether a player wants to come here are not dealing with reality. Today's players are very much in touch with their "brand" and will absolutely look negatively about a poor bunch of fans. Support whomever plays during the game, whine and cry about the results off the field when it is not as damaging.
 
#84
#84
Yeah not sure if you mistook what I said as me defending JG? Simply saying we could still win some games. Believe it or not, Vols have won a few with him under center albeit last season (also, again, not a defense of JG).

And that is the game plan. Play conservative and maybe take a couple shots to loosen up the D and keep them from stacking the box every play. It’s not ideal, my guy, but it’s not an automatic L either.

And I’m not a stat guru so I won’t even attempt to name someone but are you really over here thinking JG is the worst college football QB of all time? You know there are more teams in college football than just UT, don’t you?

It's all opinionated. I stand by my opinions. We won't win another game with JG at QB, and he is most definitely the worst college QB I've ever witnessed in my lifetime anyway. I've been watching since the late 80s. Dude is god awful.
 
#85
#85
Guarantano sealed his fate in infamy with the likes of Peterman Saturday night. I don't like him as a player and hope he transfers after the year. That said, no point in booing him. He's all we got.

I think Shrout only went in bc it was over and Pruitt was making a point. Jennings, who I absolutely love, isn't anything more than a gimmick qb. He'd work for maybe a game but would be figured out quickly. Guarantano "can" be serviceable. He's the best chance at salvaging a broken season.

I'm not saying cheer him, just don't boo. If he can hit a wide open receiver 15 yards downfield and not overthrow, I'll give him a standing ovation. Booing our own players can only hurt us in the eyes of the media(which I don't give a damn about) but also recruits and their parents can see it

Jg is the reason for a bad season
 
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#86
#86
I'm listening to Basilio right now, and I agree with what he says about Guarantano. The fact is he is probably going to be the starter Saturday and we need to support him. Booing him and tweeting negative things at him is not going to help him play better. It is what it is. I get just as frustrated with his play as anybody, but there is a point where the negativity becomes toxic and hurts the team. Let's get behind him and hope he plays the best game of his life because we are stuck with him for now.
Just to play devil's advocate. Is there any proof that not tweeting at him and not saying he sucks causes him to play better? Wasn't he just praised for stepping in and ensuring the win in the previous game. Did that positive reinforcement lead to future success by JG.

I'll hang up and listen.
 
#87
#87
JG manages the game until he doesn't. He needs to relax. He needs to quit trying to be a hero. He needs to do exactly what the coaches tell him to do. I think he has the ability from the head down...if he could just chill he would do much better.
 
#88
#88
I also love the fact that while all of us are talking about JG and JT, Brian Maurer will be ready to go.
 
#89
#89
This whole "going rogue" thing is ridiculous. Going rogue means sabotaging the team or having bad intentions. I think JG really thought he had a good idea, it just wasn't. He's hardly the first guy to try something ill advised on a football field.

I question if he intentionally sabotaged the team. If his heart was to win he would have changed the play under centerto change the play. He didnt, u had all the rest of the team playing for the play that was called. And the running lane for the play called was huge.
 
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#90
JG manages the game until he doesn't. He needs to relax. He needs to quit trying to be a hero. He needs to do exactly what the coaches tell him to do. I think he has the ability from the head down...if he could just chill he would do much better.

To your point, I know a lot of women that could be models from the neck down. That doesn't mean they can be models.
 
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Yeah not sure if you mistook what I said as me defending JG? Simply saying we could still win some games. Believe it or not, Vols have won a few with him under center albeit last season (also, again, not a defense of JG).

And that is the game plan. Play conservative and maybe take a couple shots to loosen up the D and keep them from stacking the box every play. It’s not ideal, my guy, but it’s not an automatic L either.

And I’m not a stat guru so I won’t even attempt to name someone but are you really over here thinking JG is the worst college football QB of all time? You know there are more teams in college football than just UT, don’t you?

It's an automatic loss against sc. But I do agree if jg starts that is the best game plan.we may score at most 14 but that's not enough to win.
 
#93
#93
I'm listening to Basilio right now, and I agree with what he says about Guarantano. The fact is he is probably going to be the starter Saturday and we need to support him. Booing him and tweeting negative things at him is not going to help him play better. It is what it is. I get just as frustrated with his play as anybody, but there is a point where the negativity becomes toxic and hurts the team. Let's get behind him and hope he plays the best game of his life because we are stuck with him for now.

Maybe Basilio and you are wrong. Maybe this is exactly what he needs. We really don't know what this kid is about, but he had 18 starts and not once did I feel he motivated his team to play (right or wrong, this is still part of the job description to play QB). Maybe he's immature, self-centered, and needs grow up......again, I don't know him, but as Bob Dylan once sang "you don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind's blowing."
 
#95
#95
JG manages the game until he doesn't. He needs to relax. He needs to quit trying to be a hero. He needs to do exactly what the coaches tell him to do. I think he has the ability from the head down...if he could just chill he would do much better.

But he's in his 3rd season. Where is this ability? If we haven't seen it by now....
 
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Yeah not sure if you mistook what I said as me defending JG? Simply saying we could still win some games. Believe it or not, Vols have won a few with him under center albeit last season (also, again, not a defense of JG).

And that is the game plan. Play conservative and maybe take a couple shots to loosen up the D and keep them from stacking the box every play. It’s not ideal, my guy, but it’s not an automatic L either.

And I’m not a stat guru so I won’t even attempt to name someone but are you really over here thinking JG is the worst college football QB of all time? You know there are more teams in college football than just UT, don’t you?

He is the worst of any ut qb I have seen and I have been watching it for several years.
 
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#97
#97
Maybe he finally has his break out game :rolleyes:

He had that game against Auburn last year. Unfortunatelly followed that up with too many break down games. :mad:
Having said that, if it's between him and Shrout and he is the only one who actually knows the playbook what choice does Pruitt really have? I don't think it's advisable to put someone as inexperienced as Shrout up against Muschamp's defense at this point (not that we have seen any UT QB's with any success against Muschamp so far)?
 
#99
#99
You'll be at the game?
He means just say it here on VN. Just like when we were all told that we had to hold Butch accountable, and now we must hold Pruitt accountable. Just say "I hold Pruitt accountable" ....or in this case "I support JG" over and over and over until everyone gets sick of seeing it. That's all that's required.
 
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