Tony Basilio is right about Guarantano

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sjt18 said:
I think he panicked. However you explain his motives... he went "rogue" in the sense that he just did his own thing.
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I think you're exactly right. He just wanted the moment to be over with. Watching him play QB is like watching somebody struggle with public speaking. You know he can do it, but his brain just won't let him.
 
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GAVol said:
This whole "going rogue" thing is ridiculous. Going rogue means sabotaging the team or having bad intentions. I think JG really thought he had a good idea, it just wasn't. He's hardly the first guy to try something ill advised on a football field.
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His intention was to go against the play called and that the blocking was set up for. he had two linebackers lined up directly in front of him over the ball with his guard about to pull out. I don't think he had bad intentions, just selfish and misguided. If he thought that was a good idea then he doesn't need to be starting at QB for any school, much less the University of Tennessee. Don't get me wrong, I'll never boo the kid but I won't exactly be gutted if he doesn't start or ever play again for that matter.
 
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Lost interest at "Basillio is right" .

Agree with not booing your own team or any players at a game though.

As far as policing social media, that toothpaste is out of the tube and set up like concrete at this point.

If these guys don't want their feelings hurt, then stay off social media. It's beyond toxic.
 
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ProudVOLfan said:
That is NOT what going rogue means. He could have at least told his lineman what he was doing?
To cease to follow orders; to act on one's own, usually against expectation or instruction. To pursue one's own interests.
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It's semantics and it doesn't matter, but I really don't think he was doing it for the personal glory.
 
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Booing is part of the game. Life is hard, and even as a college kid, if you want to avoid being boo'ed play better. The recruits have all watched JG's act this year,and somewhere inside, they must have some understanding that if they go anywhere and play the way JG has played, that they can expect to be boo'ed as well. You can't go through life fumbling for 103 yards, and not expect people to let you know about it. He deserves to be boo'ed until he figures out a way for us to cheer. That's the deal. He didn't get boo'ed overnight, it took a large body of work to reach this point in the game. Stop being soft, man up, deal with the boo-birds, and shut them up if you can. If you can't, then face the music. That's an important life lesson, a great college education can be had attending the great University of Tennessee.
 
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BeardedVol said:
If we all say we support Guarantano, will that impact his ability to execute the play called by the coaches instead of choosing to use his 6-inch vertical leap to jump his offensive line?

Cause if so, I'm all in.
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He needs to be on a very, very, very....short leash.
 
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GAVol said:
This whole "going rogue" thing is ridiculous. Going rogue means sabotaging the team or having bad intentions. I think JG really thought he had a good idea, it just wasn't. He's hardly the first guy to try something ill advised on a football field.
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What's scary is that you are right. I dont think he intentionally goes out to cost the Vols points.

What's much scarier is he thought it was a good idea to try it. Worst attempt at a "sneak" I have ever seen.
 
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GAVol said:
This whole "going rogue" thing is ridiculous. Going rogue means sabotaging the team or having bad intentions. I think JG really thought he had a good idea, it just wasn't. He's hardly the first guy to try something ill advised on a football field.
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Going rouge is ten players running one play and one player running a different play. Hope this helps.
 
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GAVol said:
It's semantics and it doesn't matter, but I really don't think he was doing it for the personal glory.
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What you think,..or what I think doesn't amount to a hill of beans. The only thing that matters,..is what he did. That stands alone, and remains constant.
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
What's scary is that you are right. I dont think he intentionally goes out to cost the Vols points.

What's much scarier is he thought it was a good idea to try it. Worst attempt at a "sneak" I have ever seen.
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It was one of the worst ideas I've ever seen and it's shocking that he could look up before taking the snap and think anything other than "I should call timeout".
 
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GAVol said:
It's semantics and it doesn't matter, but I really don't think he was doing it for the personal glory.
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Whether he did it for personal glory, or pure hubris is irrelevant. What matters is that he took it upon himself to disregard the play, without even calling a change to his teammates.

It's bad QB play, and bad leadership.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Whether he did it for personal glory, or pure hubris is irrelevant. What matters is that he took it upon himself to disregard the play, without even calling a change to his teammates.

It's QB play, and bad leadership.
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I agree 100%.
 
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If you boo JG on Saturday then you should promptly be removed from the stadium. Such a disgraceful and redneck thing to do. I'm no JG fan. I probably muttered a few choice words under my breath at home Saturday night when I saw him enter the game. But the difference is I kept that distaste to myself. College football fans boo'ing their own student athletes is embarrassing. It accomplishes nothing. It does not make them play better, and it does not make the coaching staff change their decision. The only thing it accomplishes is showcasing to all of the recruits in attendance why they should reconsider coming to that university. Pruitt is already fighting an uphill battle in recruiting as we seek to reclaim relevance both on the field and on the recruiting trail. The last thing he needs is his own fanbase negatively recruiting against him.

I listened briefly to 3&Out this morning and one of their callers was encouraging fans to boo JG, stating that he had nothing against the kid, but his boos were for the coaching staff for playing him. But there is no distinguishing the boos in real time. It's a bad look regardless, and all JG will hear is the boos as they rain down on him when he walks on the field. It's all the same to the player. Vol fans need to sack up and support whoever our QB is because we're stuck with them this year. Don't make things worse in an already rough season.

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MarcoVol said:
Yeah not sure if you mistook what I said as me defending JG? Simply saying we could still win some games. Believe it or not, Vols have won a few with him under center albeit last season (also, again, not a defense of JG).

And that is the game plan. Play conservative and maybe take a couple shots to loosen up the D and keep them from stacking the box every play. It’s not ideal, my guy, but it’s not an automatic L either.

And I’m not a stat guru so I won’t even attempt to name someone but are you really over here thinking JG is the worst college football QB of all time? You know there are more teams in college football than just UT, don’t you?
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Please don't forget we BEAT CHATTANOOGA! THIS YEAR.
 
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ProudVOLfan said:
Thats hardly the point! If you cant trust a QB to run the play called or at least tell the other 10 guys the play then you have a problem.
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That's the reason I said "...it doesn't matter". The only thing that matters is the result.
 
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AlaskanVol66 said:
Maybe he finally has his break out game :rolleyes:
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If you go back to the huge win we had over Chattanooga, so many were saying, JG needed that win to get his confidence back, we'd just turned a corner etc. (many on this very board), so maybe he needs a second break out game!;)
 
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Longsufferingvol said:
I'm listening to Basilio right now, and I agree with what he says about Guarantano. The fact is he is probably going to be the starter Saturday and we need to support him. Booing him and tweeting negative things at him is not going to help him play better. It is what it is. I get just as frustrated with his play as anybody, but there is a point where the negativity becomes toxic and hurts the team. Let's get behind him and hope he plays the best game of his life because we are stuck with him for now.
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OP gets it. How many will listen remains to be seen.
 
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GAVol said:
I think you're exactly right. He just wanted the moment to be over with. Watching him play QB is like watching somebody struggle with public speaking. You know he can do it, but his brain just won't let him.
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Serious question, would JG benefit from a Sports Psychologist? Another serious question, would it help if they took JG to a strip club on Friday night?
 
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Longsufferingvol said:
I'm listening to Basilio right now, and I agree with what he says about Guarantano. The fact is he is probably going to be the starter Saturday and we need to support him. Booing him and tweeting negative things at him is not going to help him play better. It is what it is. I get just as frustrated with his play as anybody, but there is a point where the negativity becomes toxic and hurts the team. Let's get behind him and hope he plays the best game of his life because we are stuck with him for now.
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Last night I watched most of the game last year from Auburn and Guarantano had a great game especially considering the quality of defense he was up against. This year, so far, he has not come anywhere near having a game like that where he was in command, made some nice throws and was generally a good leader. I haven't a clue what happened. Got to be in his head.
 
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Here’s where I’m at. If you are involved in a team of any type (business, sports, academic) and you change your role in any function of that team environent without communicating that decision to anyone, you are no longer part of the team. If you have ever worked with or been on a team with someone that does this, you know exactly what I’m talking about. It instantly degrades the relationships as you are now no longer trustworthy. If you have ever managed someone like that, you know you are sitting on a ticking bomb. Even if their actions cause positive benefit to you and your team, you can no longer rely on them. I think JG gets one pass....however, I feel he has had many this season. Pruitt and Weinke’s reaction was no surprise, it was anger. You are angry if this has happened before. I think this issue goes deeper than that one play and has been a huge cancer in the locker room. I think if you are Pruitt, you cannot play him anymore. Show the team you demand respect and you will not tolerate those who will not consider the team in their actions.
 
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GAVol said:
It was one of the worst ideas I've ever seen and it's shocking that he could look up before taking the snap and think anything other than "I should call timeout".
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I think I mentioned it at some point in the game thread but he just cannot identify blitzes in my novice opinion. Why he didnt call TO is beyond me too. That's just a complete lack of situational awareness.

He doesn't adjust the blocking properly, gets surprised when a guy is in his face then goes into panic mode like many QBs do under pressure. Given the lack of functional mobility, it is glaring with him though.

Going back to the play itself, I'm not remotely convinced it would have been an automatic TD either with the way that LB shot the gap. Personally think it was possible the play gets blown up in the backfield as they are trying to execute the handoff.

Yet another reason for a TO.
 
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