Today's scrimmage

[sjt18]

I agree with all that. Shrout?

k-town had a cow when I pointed it out but Pruitt seems to like him a lot. Even in this last press conference found a way to mention Shrout by name when discussing the QB's. IMHO, there's not much of a chance that he's ready yet. Even if he were ahead of the other two which is doubtful... you don't really want to throw that at a Freshman on a team with so many other unknowns. It could stunt or even shortcut his career to send him out there before he's ready.

If both of the other guys flop though... I wouldn't be surprised to see him as the starter in the back half of the season. Hopefully we aren't headed there.

 

[Air_Force_Vol27]

Lol. If anyone was gonna catch it...USC DB was...

Don’t go there..

Did you watch the same game. The ball was placed perfectly

 

[rocytop2624]

k-town had a cow when I pointed it out but Pruitt seems to like him a lot. Even in this last press conference found a way to mention Shrout by name when discussing the QB's. IMHO, there's not much of a chance that he's ready yet. Even if he were ahead of the other two which is doubtful... you don't really want to throw that at a Freshman on a team with so many other unknowns. It could stunt or even shortcut his career to send him out there before he's ready.

If both of the other guys flop though... I wouldn't be surprised to see him as the starter in the back half of the season. Hopefully we aren't headed there.

The cool thing is he could play and still redshirt.

 

[sjt18]

The cool thing is he could play and still redshirt.

Yeah. I'm not sure how I feel about that rule yet. Maybe at some point it will mitigate the advantages of Bama and the SEC who get more than their share of top, play early talent? IMO, that's one of the unstated goals. A 5th year player with 5 years of actual playing experience... might level things out with some of those 5* studs.

 

[rocytop2624]

Yeah. I'm not sure how I feel about that rule yet. Maybe at some point it will mitigate the advantages of Bama and the SEC who get more than their share of top, play early talent? IMO, that's one of the unstated goals. A 5th year player with 5 years of actual playing experience... might level things out with some of those 5* studs.

Well it is good for our team.

 

[k-town_king]

Sjt calm down before you give yourself a stroke.

No cow. Just pointed out Pruitt had said good things about the top three. No problem with Shrout. He just needs time to develop. No chance he starts this year unless both other qbs are either hurt or historically awful. Shrout is not accurate consistently and makes too many bad decisions still. He has a good arm though.

You are hanging a lot on someone's opinion. You do that to any thing that fits your narrative and ignore all the other stuff.

You did a lot of stat flipping and math to try to make JGs numbers match up with Chryst. The fact is you can't denigrate JGs mental ability compared to Chryst when you look at what they have done on the field. You are also ignoring the progress it's reported that he made. And you also ignore that he ran the full o by his third start.





And no people I don't care if KC starts if he actually plays well. I want the best qb to play. I don't think KCs past performance points to a successful SEC quarterback. JG already has as many 200 yard conference games as KC.

 

[Mccage]

This one cracks me up. Their game plan won’t change at all for either QB

I'm glad you got a laugh and agree their game plan probably want change. One other thing to laugh at is the WV coaches will still take time to look at at tape and that's time lost.

 

[Bubbs]

Are u serious. The only reason QD started last year was because he was the upperclassmen. Time after time Butch always chose seniority over talent. Colton jumper over DK jr, Justin Worley over Dobbs, Hurd over kamara, and QD over JG. The team gave up after the Florida loss last year

That’s true but have you ever heard of a player or coach speak of JG as being a leader. Taylor beat a guy up and got suspended and we hear about him stepping up and being an alpha dog on that defense. Our star tackle is a sophomore. We hear about him holding other lineman accountable. Setting the tone. Don’t hear anything about JG 3rd year on campus being a leader. A little troubling for who he’s supposed to be for us.

 

[VOLATNES]

why do u think we will have an offense similar to bama. our o cord haz nothing to do with bama.

No clue other than Pruitt and Friend come from same type system. It’s been said that Friend will be heavily involved in the offense. They seem to be recruiting in a similar way to Alabubba style.

 

[OnlyGodForgives]

If JG starts a group of players riding to class on Segways that might show a certain type of leadership.

 

[butchna]

That’s true but have you ever heard of a player or coach speak of JG as being a leader. Taylor beat a guy up and got suspended and we hear about him stepping up and being an alpha dog on that defense. Our star tackle is a sophomore. We hear about him holding other lineman accountable. Setting the tone. Don’t hear anything about JG 3rd year on campus being a leader. A little troubling for who he’s supposed to be for us.

Got any links to the many tales of KC’s leadership? In four years, he should have accrued a few.

 

[livefaith]

That final drive against SC last year proves JG can be poised. Ducks his receiver didnt catch the game winning touchdown pass.

100% accurate. Brandon Johnson let a beautiful game winner slip right thru both hands. I try to think about the perception of the Jarrett Guarantano who has one game winning driver over an SEC opponent, but suffered minor injury and finished on a bad 5-7 Vols team. Gives me a little better hope at the QB position. Regardless of who wins it.

 

[DaUndergroundMan]

You mean other than his play, the sacks, statements by coaches that they had to reduce the offense for him to run it, his being beaten out once already by someone who was not as physically talented as him.... You mean other than all those facts.

Yeah. There's more than enough justification for it. He's not the first physically talented QB who was held back by the non-physical part of being a QB.

But since you are still in denial... was QD more physically talented than JG? Is KC? Is KC even real close? No. On physical talent he would have won the job out right both times... and this year there wouldn't have been any façade of a competition since he's the returning starter.

Add 20 incompletions to reduce those 26 snaps to 6... recalculate the QBR... then we can talk.

They know this. A sack rating of 15.8 is gonna put your butt on the bench anytime anywhere. It just horrendous. They blame the ol, when dormady had a sack rating that was peytonesque with the same offensive line.

There's a strange contingency of JG worshippers on this board. They truly want success for guarantano far above anything associated with Tennessee. I don't get it. He played horribly last year. Dormady led a much more effective offense....you know why....

Cause he knew how to throw the ball away rather than taking a sack. It's pretty darn simple,just like a qb that can't figure out that he doesn't get infinite time to stare at receivers....SIMPLE.

You bashed sj18, when hes been right all along...you get panty twisted every time someone, anyone points out the facts about your boy.
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You sulk at pruitt, bash LWS...larry, the one guy that you can count on to report straight up without opinion or any desire for e-cred accrual. Lws is like joe friday...just the facts. Always been that way from gridscape to om, to volnation and ANY other Tennessee board.

They bash larry, these same weirded wackadoodles that lapped breadcrumbs from mitbeaver.

It's almost funny.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

They know this. A sack rating of 15.8 is gonna put your butt on the bench anytime anywhere. It just horrendous. They blame the ol, when dormady had a sack rating that was peytonesque with the same offensive line.

There's a strange contingency of JG worshippers on this board. They truly want success for guarantano far above anything associated with Tennessee. I don't get it. He played horribly last year. Dormady led a much more effective offense....you know why....

Cause he knew how to throw the ball away rather than taking a sack. It's pretty darn simple,just like a qb that can't figure out that he doesn't get infinite time to stare at receivers....SIMPLE.

You bashed sj18, when hes been right all along...you get panty twisted every time someone, anyone points out the facts about your boy.
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You sulk at pruitt, bash LWS...larry, the one guy that you can count on to report straight up without opinion or any desire for e-cred accrual. Lws is like joe friday...just the facts. Always been that way from gridscape to om, to volnation and ANY other Tennessee board.

They bash larry, these same weirded wackadoodles that lapped breadcrumbs from mitbeaver.

It's almost funny.

I doubt that there are that many Tennessee fans in the boat you describe. I think the real situation is some people have questions about how JG will play behind a better offensive line, something we have not been able to see since he has been here. On the other hand, some people think that, even though he lost his starting position at Stanford who had a very good offensive line, he has to be better than anyone we have on our team. I am not going to lose any sleep over who starts until we see both players in action which will likely happen against WVa. I have not seen anything from any coach which has stated that either of the two most likely QBs has outplayed the other. It is way too early for uninformed fans to get their panties in a wad. It will all come out in the wash after the game a week from Saturday. May the best QB not lose the game for Tennessee.

 

[Electric Orange]

All I remember of JG is he seems slow going through reads, stares down receivers, had very little time to throw before taking sacks that killed drives and kept our defense on the field too much. His attitude also seemed poor, but I may be wrong about that. Maybe receivers will help out and get open more since they're not lining up in a weird stance preplay. Maybe the line blocks a little better too.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

So the missing quotient could be alcohol?

It often is.

 

[tbones0711]

Did you watch the same game. The ball was placed perfectly

not much mentioning of the WR's in this thread.

 

[AngryButchJones]

So...to get this back on track a little: Did anyone read the notes VQ posted about the scrimmage?

 

[FBtime]

If JG starts a group of players riding to class on Segways that might show a certain type of leadership.

I read this line 5 times and still have no idea what it means.

 

[Ten_Titans]

Yeah. I'm not sure how I feel about that rule yet. Maybe at some point it will mitigate the advantages of Bama and the SEC who get more than their share of top, play early talent? IMO, that's one of the unstated goals. A 5th year player with 5 years of actual playing experience... might level things out with some of those 5* studs.

For the best players, it won't matter. Look at a guy like Trey Smith. Say we played him in only 4 last year and red shirted him. Wouldn't matter. He's gone after next season either way.

So even if you had an Uber talented freshman and limited him to 4 games, he's gone after 3 years either way. Either as a true Junior or a RS Sophomore.

Just the way I see it. I think it's a really good rule. Should truly only benefit those guys just trying to get experience.

 

[dillyo51]

Does anyone have information about the scrimmage?

 

[sjt18]

For the best players, it won't matter. Look at a guy like Trey Smith. Say we played him in only 4 last year and red shirted him. Wouldn't matter. He's gone after next season either way.

So even if you had an Uber talented freshman and limited him to 4 games, he's gone after 3 years either way. Either as a true Junior or a RS Sophomore.

Just the way I see it. I think it's a really good rule. Should truly only benefit those guys just trying to get experience.

I probably explained my thought poorly. On the opposite extremes in the SEC you have Bama who "finds them". I'm not suggesting they don't coach players up but rather that they find guys with college ready talent and often a head start in being coached up. On the other end you have Mizzou with a long history of looking for diamonds in the rough, red-shirting them, then eventually playing them for a couple of years. Having the ability to play them 4 games in their RS year for experience should benefit them on the back end of their career more so than programs that find the Trey Smiths of the world.