Today's crowd??

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stephenk24 said:
I'm afraid you are wrong. Last night was my first taste of college baseball. I thought it would be close to the popularity of college football. That's all.

Now I know.
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Yeah those guys are right. Its basically just the fact that college football and basketball are the top level before going pro. Whereas college baseball is years away from MLB. I love it however!
 
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CWGvol said:
Yeah those guys are right. Its basically just the fact that college football and basketball are the top level before going pro. Whereas college baseball is years away from MLB. I love it however!
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But that's not necessarily true. Just recently you've had guys like Strasburg, Cole, Bauer, Rendon, LaPorta, Hultzen, Pomeranz, Ackley, Minor, and Leake. All who spent or will spend a very limited time in the minors and were huge stars in college.

If college baseball was promoted like football and basketball, Matt LaPorta and Stephen Strasburg would have been as big as Adrian Peterson and Blake Griffin were in college.
 
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#1ArencibiaFan said:
But that's not necessarily true. Just recently you've had guys like Strasburg, Cole, Bauer, Rendon, LaPorta, Hultzen, Pomeranz, Ackley, Minor, and Leake. All who spent or will spend a very limited time in the minors and were huge stars in college.

If college baseball was promoted like football and basketball, Matt LaPorta and Stephen Strasburg would have been as big as Adrian Peterson and Blake Griffin were in college.
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That covers about 1%. All pros in football and basketball come straight from college, every single one. Even the stars you mentioned still spent a year or years in the minors. Even then that is the exception not he norm. No one EVER goes MLB straight from college. You just proved the point....even superstars like Strasburg, LaPorta, Harper are years away from MLB after college. That NEVER happens in football and basketball. College football and basketball are AAA NFL and NBA.

This is the only reason baseball is so much further behind. So many levels and college being far from pro, dilutes the interest. If college baseball was AAA MLB it would be huge, and the minor leagues wouldnt be as popular, like in football and basketball.
 
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You see my point? Even the biggest stars in the game of college baseball still had to go minor leagues. In football and basketball, even the middle and lower talent go straight to NFL or NBA. If this some how could be the same in baseball it would be all the sport needs to become a huge college sport!
 
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Outside of a few teams, college baseball has a very small following.


stephenk24 said:
Thats fair enough, I thought that College Baseball would be really really popular because Baseball is so popular in the US. Obviously not. Any reason for this?

I don't know why this is the case though, I really enjoyed today's game. Even though I couldn't tune in till the 8th inning because of technical difficulties.

I am going to do my best to keep up with the Vols Baseball team, as hard as it will be for me. :good!:

I can't describe to any of you how much I have become proud to be a fan. Yes I am more of a Packers fan overall, but I feel more a part of the Vols unlike any of my other teams. Maybe it's because of this website, maybe because there are multiple teams so you can follow them all year round, I don't know. Whatever it is though, It's solidified me as a VOL FOR LIFE!
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CWGvol said:
You see my point? Even the biggest stars in the game of college baseball still had to go minor leagues. In football and basketball, even the middle and lower talent go straight to NFL or NBA. If this some how could be the same in baseball it would be all the sport needs to become a huge college sport!
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I think to an extent you are correct, but since it irritates me, I have to say something. I think the college game across all sports is more entertaining than professional. I do not think its the fact that I don't get to see the College baseball guys on TV the year after they leave that is the issue. I think more of it is the fact that it is a step that can be, and often is, skipped by a lot of guys coming out of high school. But the college game is growing; that is hard to argue. The consensus among scouts, umps, and followers of the SEC is that is compares well with AA baseball from a talent and competition standpoint. I really believe the quality of the game is not whats holding people back. Its certainly not in Columbia, or Baton Rouge, or Fayetteville.

March Madness is not popular because we want to see Kentucky pummel everyone and remember all their names so we can talk about them next year when they're in the NBA. Its popular because we get to root for the underdog. We get to root on kids that will probably never make in in the NBA. And we absolutely adore it. (In my mind no one even watches the NBA. Its terrible.)

I think college baseball is in a position to grow and the SEC is leading the way. Baseball is a major sport in this country and there is no reason why it shouldn't be a major draw at the college level. Plus, with the new draft rules, more kids are likely to come to school, especially to big name programs. I really hope the people in Knoxville jump on this bandwagon and keep setting new records. Force us to continue the improvements to Lindsey Nelson Stadium. I want to see MVP seats filled for SEC weekends.
 
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BigOrange51 said:
I think to an extent you are correct, but since it irritates me, I have to say something. I think the college game across all sports is more entertaining than professional. I do not think its the fact that I don't get to see the College baseball guys on TV the year after they leave that is the issue. I think more of it is the fact that it is a step that can be, and often is, skipped by a lot of guys coming out of high school. But the college game is growing; that is hard to argue. The consensus among scouts, umps, and followers of the SEC is that is compares well with AA baseball from a talent and competition standpoint. I really believe the quality of the game is not whats holding people back. Its certainly not in Columbia, or Baton Rouge, or Fayetteville.

March Madness is not popular because we want to see Kentucky pummel everyone and remember all their names so we can talk about them next year when they're in the NBA. Its popular because we get to root for the underdog. We get to root on kids that will probably never make in in the NBA. And we absolutely adore it. (In my mind no one even watches the NBA. Its terrible.)

I think college baseball is in a position to grow and the SEC is leading the way. Baseball is a major sport in this country and there is no reason why it shouldn't be a major draw at the college level. Plus, with the new draft rules, more kids are likely to come to school, especially to big name programs. I really hope the people in Knoxville jump on this bandwagon and keep setting new records. Force us to continue the improvements to Lindsey Nelson Stadium. I want to see MVP seats filled for SEC weekends.
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I agree with most of that. What I have in bold is basically saying the same thing I was. Its not the only problem but is the main one. Because if college baseball was AAA MLB it would produce all the things you mentioned. Which is an elite college game, which I by FAR prefer as well, compared to pro. Watching the next elite players not guys 5 or 6 years away from pro ball.
 
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And nobody knows who the top players are because ESPN doesn't talk about them. You give Zunino, Whitson, Appel, Marrero, etc the same coverage Anthony Davis, RG3, Andrew Luck get, people will know who they are, why they are so good and will follow them through the minors.

Look at Strasburg and Harper. ESPN gives them more coverage than any other amateur player at the time and all of the sudden, everyone wants to see their minor league games and follow them. You do the same with the top college players and people will follow them.
 
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#1ArencibiaFan said:
And nobody knows who the top players are because ESPN doesn't talk about them. You give Zunino, Whitson, Appel, Marrero, etc the same coverage Anthony Davis, RG3, Andrew Luck get, people will know who they are, why they are so good and will follow them through the minors.

Look at Strasburg and Harper. ESPN gives them more coverage than any other amateur player at the time and all of the sudden, everyone wants to see their minor league games and follow them. You do the same with the top college players and people will follow them.
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I think the issue is that the average person doesn't see that talent every game even when a guy is blown up.

Think about it- Joe Schmoe isn't going to care how beautiful a guy's swing is, he's going to want to see big plays and athleticism all the time. Baseball doesn't afford that as much as other sports. The exception, obviously, is pitchers (on days they play, obviously), because a dominant pitcher is going to be amazing to watch, even for the casual fan.
 
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#1ArencibiaFan said:
And nobody knows who the top players are because ESPN doesn't talk about them. You give Zunino, Whitson, Appel, Marrero, etc the same coverage Anthony Davis, RG3, Andrew Luck get, people will know who they are, why they are so good and will follow them through the minors.

Look at Strasburg and Harper. ESPN gives them more coverage than any other amateur player at the time and all of the sudden, everyone wants to see their minor league games and follow them. You do the same with the top college players and people will follow them.
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True, but if college baseball was the last step before MLB and all that talent was playing at the same time they would. Imagine if all the elite talent was in college at the same time instead of spread out between college and the minors. The games would be huge!
 
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