To Those Who Think Dooley is Wrong with Arnett

#76
#76
zjcvols said:
That was over a year ago. It's possible that he got closer to his father. Or that he realizes he only has one biological father and wants to spend as much time with him as he possibly can.

You guys will do anything to throw a 18 year old under the bus. You should be so proud.
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While you Dooley haters will do anything to ***** about every move he makes
 
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brandonco05 said:
While you Dooley haters will do anything to ***** about every move he makes
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1) Not a Dooley. Hate what he is doing here thought.

2) He's a 44 year old man being paid $2M to coach a football team.

3) Why do you Dooley lovers defend every single move he makes? See how I can flip flop it around?
 
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Regardless of where any of us fall on the details, him playing at Michigan or Michigan State has no impact on us or our program. Notre Dame realized that with Alex Bullard.

In the big picture, we have a chance to either look good or bad. Few dig into the details. This is about perception and PR management. Maybe CDD is too close to it or too much of a legalistic lawyer.

Bottom line is the current decision makes us look bad and nothing good can come of it. Since there is no real risk giving him an unrestricted waiver, makes no sense not to. What worries me is the bad decision making by both the coach and administration. No wonder we are in the dumps.

And for the record I want CDD to do well so I'm not a negavol or anti-CDD. But I simply can not understand this decision or see anything good about it.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
If a coach can leave after one season, why can't a player?
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Because apparently signing some crock of an LOI for one year means you have to commit to the program for life, while those same fans absolutely praise a coach for telling a player to GTFO when they need a free scholly because they aren't as good as advertised.
 
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Lexvol said:
Players absolutely need more protection from the Gestapo.
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The NCAA is a joke and this situation shows it again. It's absolutely a joke how a coach can basically dictate where a player goes because he won't release him from this crock LOI they basically have to sign.
 
#83
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UGA insider said:
Then why make it difficult in the first place? I'm sure CDD is looking out for the best interest of the football program but he will not win this argument in the court of public opinion.
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Dooley didn't make it difficult, the NCAA did. It is their rule that is meant to keep players from shuffling around from team-to-team because they're dissatisfied with their original commitment. Dooley can only make it easier for Arnett. And, recognizing that there are extenuating circumstances in this case, he has agreed to waive the restriction and allow Arnett to go and play immediately at another FBS school.
 
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zjcvols said:
Because apparently signing some crock of an LOI for one year means you have to commit to the program for life, while those same fans absolutely praise a coach for telling a player to GTFO when they need a free scholly because they aren't as good as advertised.
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Can you imagine though the tampering that would go on if the transfer rules weren't in place?
 
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#85
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zjcvols said:
1) Not a Dooley. Hate what he is doing here thought.

2) He's a 44 year old man being paid $2M to coach a football team.

3) Why do you Dooley lovers defend every single move he makes? See how I can flip flop it around?
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I don't defend every move he makes, but I'm not dumb enough to think that some fan has more info on the situation than the coach
 
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GAVol said:
Can you imagine though the tampering that would go on if the transfer rules weren't in place?
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The AA doesn't want free agency. I find it amusing that most of these situations involve "handlers". Ie Bryce Brown or Arnett's brother. The problem is a lot of these kids are still exploited from both ends.

I don't know what the answer is, but there should be more parity for the athlete when the coach bolts.
 
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Lexvol said:
The AA doesn't want free agency. I find it amusing that most of these situations involve "handlers". Ie Bryce Brown or Arnett's brother. The problem is a lot of these kids are still exploited from both ends.

I don't know what the answer is, but there should be more parity for the athlete when the coach bolts.
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I agree . . . If it's the head coach
 
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GAVol said:
Can you imagine though the tampering that would go on if the transfer rules weren't in place?
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I don't mind the sit out one year rule. I honestly don't. I do have a problem basically telling a kid he can't go to certain schools, especially schools 900 miles away, that we never play, and aren't in our same conference.
 
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Hacksaw said:
Dooley didn't make it difficult, the NCAA did. It is their rule that is meant to keep players from shuffling around from team-to-team because they're dissatisfied with their original commitment. Dooley can only make it easier for Arnett. And, recognizing that there are extenuating circumstances in this case, he has agreed to waive the restriction and allow Arnett to go and play immediately at another FBS school.
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Except for Michigan and Michigan State. That's what the beef is all about.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
It really makes me ill that people on here are questioning Arnett's motivations. For those of you who think that you have to do this out of loyalty to Coach Dooley, please stop it. You are making our entire fanbase look like sick, heartless monsters and the fact that you are posting this vitriol on a Vols-oriented website is probably going to turn away potential recruits.
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Your posts in this thread and most others are devoid of logic and driven by an agenda of hate.

Just admit that you despise Dooley and all that he does. I bet you would criticize his technique for taking a s**t. Wonder if recruits like coaches who wipe front to back compared to back to front.

I believe Arnett is a lying sack of **** and I question his motives. I wouldn't release him to any school becuase of the way he has handled this. If i lose a p***y recruit over it, good. Didnt need them anyway. Go juco or pay your own way...then stfu.
 
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#92
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brandonco05 said:
I don't defend every move he makes, but I'm not dumb enough to think that some fan has more info on the situation than the coach
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So where is everyone's information that Arnett is just mad that Baggett is gone and using his dad as just an excuse to leave Tennessee?
 
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TN_Vol_Fo_Life said:
Your posts in this thread and most others are devoid of logic and driven by an agenda of hate.

Just admit that you despise Dooley and all that he does. I bet you would criticize his technique for taking a s**t. Wonder if recruits like coaches who wipe front to back compared to back to front.

I believe Arnett is a lying sack of **** and I question his motives. I wouldn't release him to any school becuase of the way he has handled this. If i lose a p***y recruit over it, good. Didnt need them anyway. Go juco or pay your own way...then stfu.
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Just go away and never come back please.
 
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#94
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zjcvols said:
So where is everyone's information that Arnett is just mad that Baggett is gone and using his dad as just an excuse to leave Tennessee?
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Thats the point, all the Dooley haters are bashing him, the Dooley lovers defend him. None of us have info but people want to piss and moan either way. I'd be fine giving Arnett an unconditional release, but im also fine with the school doing what they think is best, regardless of what some message board posters think.
 
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Arnett had my sympathy until he released the letter to the media. The letter itself is evidence that his family is not his motive for leaving. Coach Dooley has cut his players at lot of slack when it comes to personal issues. He allowed Janzen Jackson to miss practices due to undisclosed personal issues. Clearly, Dooley tested Arnett to find out his true intentions. As a lawyer, Dooley is paid to detect deception and dishonesty. In his letter, Arnett states what his true intentions are to transfer to Michigan or Michigan State, not to play close to home. Most likely, Dooley asked Arnett would he accept playing at a non-BCS Divison 1 school. When Arnett said no, he proved to Dooley that family hardship was not his true intention. Had Arnett been willing to accept playing at a non-BCS Divison 1 school, Dooley would have given him an unrestricted release. In short, Arnett's letter to media makes him sound like he's suffering from Brett Farve Syndrome. As far as potential tampering by MSU or MU, we'll find out soon. If the no comment bug hits the atheletic department on the issue, then the NCAA may be doing a prelimary investigation. If not, then Dooley's track record suggests he will make a statement to clear up the situation sometime this week.
 
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#97
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Lexvol said:
The AA doesn't want free agency. I find it amusing that most of these situations involve "handlers". Ie Bryce Brown or Arnett's brother. The problem is a lot of these kids are still exploited from both ends.

I don't know what the answer is, but there should be more parity for the athlete when the coach bolts.
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Do we want union rules in Football?

Meaning, if a player doesnt perform, he can still be protected by a long term scholarship and cant be cut?


A coach can leave before his contract is up, but he normally doesn't receive an unconditional release from that contract. He pays a monetary penalty for breaching that contract.

Players should also suffer some sort of penalty.

Only on very special occasions should they be granted a waiver from that obligation
 
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The general principle for the sympathizers is that players should be allowed to leave for family obligations. But I will take a wait and see approach, because he can still take the offer to go to CMU. If he doesn't go to CMU but stays here then it was never about the family.

The restriction that Dooley put on the release only seems harsh to people that think very little of the MAC. There has to be a reason why that restriction is there. The NFL isn't going to skip him over just because he went to a MAC team rather than a Big 10 team.
 
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