To those that question Ron Paul on his foreign policy...

[n_huffhines]

I think it is definitely their concern; particularly if we nuked them rather than strategically attacked only military targets and made every attempt to minimize innocent deaths.

I don't mean this to be a challenge or said with disrespect but given your strong Christian faith don't you see some good Samaritan role for countries if their innocents are wantonly killed?

I don't trust governments to be good Samaritans. They might do good in some cases, but it's not necessarily with altruistic intentions. Even if the intentions are good, I don't trust them to effectively bring about their objectives.

 

[n_huffhines]

Funny how people call a strict constitutionalist an isolationist.

Especially when he wants to trade freely with everyone, and the status quo is to exercise sanctions (isolationism) on those we don't approve of.

 

[KiffinKiller]

For people arguing that we can't save everyone...we already operate on that notion. We've avoided genocide for a looooong time. We pick and choose where we help - not bashing US involvement...just stating fact.

 

[gsvol]

Of the two Libertarians in the running, he's the worst.

Who is the other and why is he the worst?

I just don't buy into the notion that Iran will suddenly become our friend if we remove ourselves from the ME.

Has Paul ever said any words to that effect?

I think you mistake principles for naivete.

I agree except that I have another word for naivete.

Have you paid attention to the last 50 years of ME intervention by the US?

No good deeds go unpunished.

How right you are.

 

[n_huffhines]

Who is the other and why is he the worst?

Gary Johnson is the other. I prefer Ron Paul, but I REALLY like Gary Johnson. Johnson has a more pragmatic approach than Paul, which might make him more dangerous to status quo. I figure that must be the reason he hasn't been invited to debates where most of the candidates invited appear that they are auditioning for a new 3 stooges remake.

Gary Johnson won 2 terms in a state where Dems outnumber Reps 2:1. He had an incredible run. He reduced state government employees (non-education) from like 15,000 down to like 11,000 (post-Johnson, it's up to 16,000 now).

It's remarkable to me that people closely following the Republican nomination process have no idea who this guy is.

 

[VOLatile]

Gary Johnson is the other. I prefer Ron Paul, but I REALLY like Gary Johnson. Johnson has a more pragmatic approach than Paul, which might make him more dangerous to status quo. I figure that must be the reason he hasn't been invited to debates where most of the candidates invited appear that they are auditioning for a new 3 stooges remake.

Gary Johnson won 2 terms in a state where Dems outnumber Reps 2:1. He had an incredible run. He reduced state government employees (non-education) from like 15,000 down to like 11,000 (post-Johnson, it's up to 16,000 now).

It's remarkable to me that people closely following the Republican nomination process have no idea who this guy is.

The guy's also competed in the Kona Ironman 70.3 world championship, climbed Everest, etc. Also, he's an agnostic, maybe even atheist... which is why he'd never win the GOP.

 

[RespectTradition]

I really like Johnson as well. Too bad he can't get any mainstream recognition.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Also, he's an agnostic, maybe even atheist... which is why he'd never win the GOP.

:crazy:

 

[milohimself]

President Paul doesn't care

President Paul doesn't give a ****

President Honey Badger

 

[Stupified]

Hypothetical situations to follow. I know we hate those, but based on things that Paul has said in the debates and in other media appearances, I think this is how a Paul presidency would handle things.

Iran develops and tests a nuclear device. President Paul says that's just ducky, they have a right to join the nuclear fraternity.

Iran proliferates their nuclear weapons. President Paul doesn't care, the US stuck it's nose in their business for far too long.

Tel Aviv gets nuked, but it's not apparent how it happened. President Paul takes Iran at it's word that it had nothing to do with it and further urges Israel to exercise restraint.

Los Angeles gets nuked, Iran's fingerprints are all over the event. President Paul finally asks for a Congressional declaration of war, but only after 10 million people on two continents have been vaporized.

IEAE, the UN, and humanity's instinctive fear of retribution all go against your scenarios.

 

[KiffinKiller]

The guy's also competed in the Kona Ironman 70.3 world championship, climbed Everest, etc. Also, he's an agnostic, maybe even atheist... which is why he'd never win the GOP.

this. I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[MG1968]

IEAE, the UN, and humanity's instinctive fear of retribution all go against your scenarios.

I'll grant you the third, but the IAEA and the UN haven't prevented squat

 

[KiffinKiller]

I'll grant you the third, but the IAEA and the UN haven't prevented squat

was that a triple negative? Astounding!

 

[n_huffhines]

was that a triple negative? Astounding!

I think that's only 2, but an admirable attempt, nonetheless.

 

[MG1968]

was that a triple negative? Astounding!

I think that's only 2, but an admirable attempt, nonetheless.

what are you two talking about?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]