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who won't admit that BAMA got preferential treatment.

What's your honest opinion of UT's first drive of the game where BAMA's DL blatantly jumped offside and nearly touched our OL before blasting Crompton to cause an incomplete pass?

Had that been called like it should have been, then we would have had the ball with a 3rd & 9 and would have been in FG range. Not sure if Lincoln would have hit it but we should have at least had the opportunity to kick the FG or get a 1st down.

What about the fact that the line judges were consistently at off by about a yard in the placement of the ball and the ref who spotted it further back always got his way? There were at least 5 instances where we had a 1/2 yard or yard shaved off of our play.

What about the phantom holding call at a crucial part of the game? What about an extra 11 seconds being taken off the clock on our drive at the end of the 1st half? Had the clock been managed correctly we would have had time for another play to get us closer on the FG that came up short.

How about BAMA jumping offsides and causing movement and it getting called on UT? What about a couple of missed holding calls against BAMA?

What about the headset issue at the beginning of the game? Pretty strange how quickly that issue got fixed once it was apparent that the issue would effect BAMA more.....I find it hard to believe that it was magically fixed in a matter of seconds.

I'm not even going to mention the numerous problems on the last play of the game. Regardless of how it would have affected the outcome an Unsportsmanlike Conduct Penalty should have been called on Cody, BAMA's players shouldn't have been on the field with time left on the clock and the ref certainly shouldn't have pointed out the ball to the BAMA players and then try to play it off like he didn't just do so.

I find it truly amazing how one-sided the officiating was and BAMA fans refusal to admit it.
 
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8 to 1 and up until tonight i believe we were the least penalized team in the league. I really don't want to blame it on the refs, but the calls went with the home team.... as expected.
 
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The only one that killed me was the Cody helmet incident at the end. At least make it more dramatic and see if he would block it again.
 
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Great post OP. Also, great point about the headsets. I have a feeling that if the problem would have affected us more than Bama, it would have taken alot longer to fix. They really are cheaters I think
 
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The offside was an especially obvious call that was not made. Something needs to be done about the SEC officiating.
 
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The offside was an especially obvious call that was not made. Something needs to be done about the SEC officiating.

As frustrating as the helmet incident was, I could understand the no call to some degree with it being the end of the game. But that offside non-call was horrendous.
 
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Was it my imagination and/or the scotch, or were the Bama DB's hands on our receivers backs all afternoon?
 
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I'm not going to sit here and say that calls weren't missed. Calls are always missed in every football game that's ever played. I would point out that on your TD drive one of your OL had one of our DL's jersey stretched so much that I'm surprised he didn't tear it. No flag. As for the clock issue in the first half, I didn't notice it, so I can't offer an opinion.

As for the Cody helmet issue, it would have been interesting to see how the penalty would've been enforced had it been called. First, if a kick is blocked, and that particular penalty happens after the block, at what point does possession truly change? I do know that if the blocked kick doesn't go past the line of scrimmage, the kicking team can advance it. If it goes past the line of scrimmage, they obviously can't. It looked to me like the ball ended up right at or just over the line of scrimmage. If it goes past the line of scrimmage, does that mean possession has changed? If so, then the penalty would've been enforced post-kick and post-possession change, so the game would've ended anyway. Second, if a kick is blocked with no time on the clock, is the game over? I'm pretty sure his helmet didn't come off until there were all zeros on the clock.
 
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Also, with regards to our DL "jumping offsides," on the replay it looked to me like he got lucky and timed the snap. I don't think he crossed the line of scrimmage until after the ball moved.

BUT, I will say that typically in those situations, you'd expect them to throw the flag just because it looked odd.
 
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The disparity in the spotting of the ball is what pissed me off the most.....along with the obvious offsides.

It's absolutely ridiculous how the line judges were spotting the ball. I kept yelling at the TV for Kiffin to challenge but I think he realized that A). it wouldn't do any good to challenge and B). Kiffin probably thought he would need to save the challenges for bad calls that had more of an impact.

Having a couple of feet shaved off of play after play is absolutely ridiculous and can really affect a football game. There's a reason it's called a "game of inches." The worst instances were on several of Hardesty's runs and a GJ catch where he obviously was a half yard past the marker but was spotted a foot behind it.

Pathetic!
 
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Guys, again, come on, read the other threads, the no call on Cody wouldn't have mattered if they had called it, dead ball and it was Bama's ball so they still take a knee.

The offside was missed, but we tackled #57 on Crompton's long pass to put us in range and got away with it, 4 or 5 were false starts of our 8.

Rogan looked blatantly offsides on the onside kick also...

Officiating didn't lose this game...
 
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Also, with regards to our DL "jumping offsides," on the replay it looked to me like he got lucky and timed the snap. I don't think he crossed the line of scrimmage until after the ball moved.

BUT, I will say that typically in those situations, you'd expect them to throw the flag just because it looked odd.

Your attempt to make us feel better is hollow. 8 to 1 penalty differential against one of the least penalized teams in the country, non-calls on offsides, DB draped all over receivers, and blatant unsportsmanlike conduct at the end of the game tells the story. Sure there are bad calls in every game, and UT sure got its share this game...especially at the worst times.
 
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I'm not going to sit here and say that calls weren't missed. Calls are always missed in every football game that's ever played. I would point out that on your TD drive one of your OL had one of our DL's jersey stretched so much that I'm surprised he didn't tear it. No flag. As for the clock issue in the first half, I didn't notice it, so I can't offer an opinion.

As for the Cody helmet issue, it would have been interesting to see how the penalty would've been enforced had it been called. First, if a kick is blocked, and that particular penalty happens after the block, at what point does possession truly change? I do know that if the blocked kick doesn't go past the line of scrimmage, the kicking team can advance it. If it goes past the line of scrimmage, they obviously can't. It looked to me like the ball ended up right at or just over the line of scrimmage. If it goes past the line of scrimmage, does that mean possession has changed? If so, then the penalty would've been enforced post-kick and post-possession change, so the game would've ended anyway. Second, if a kick is blocked with no time on the clock, is the game over? I'm pretty sure his helmet didn't come off until there were all zeros on the clock.


No answers for the offsides, the headset issue or the terrible spotting of the ball, huh? What about the phantom hold?

I'm not too hung up on the problems with the blocked kick but some of the other disparities were flat out ridiculous.

If you get a chance, go back and look at our drive at the end of the first half. There wasn't a play on that drive where the clock stopped when it should have. One play had a full 5 seconds ticked off before the clock stopped.

Calls are always missed but all of the missed calls in this game went in BAMA's favor and most of them were very obvious and directly in front of refs.

I also forgot about a block in the back on one of the screen passes early in the game that didn't get called. The BAMA player even realized he messed up and put his hands down very quickly right in front of the ref and it wasn't called.
 
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The illegal "block" below the waist called on the Tennessee guy during an Alabama return was strange to me. It may have been the correct call (I'm not exactly up on the rulebook), but I've never seen that called especially on a man trying to make a tackle. That being said, the refs DID NOT cost us the game, special teams did.... For the most part, I'm very proud of the team.. The future is looking good.
 
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Also, with regards to our DL "jumping offsides," on the replay it looked to me like he got lucky and timed the snap. I don't think he crossed the line of scrimmage until after the ball moved.

BUT, I will say that typically in those situations, you'd expect them to throw the flag just because it looked odd.


His helmet was on our side of the ball before it was snapped and he almost made contact with our OL but he was shooting the gap between the Center and Guard.

It was blatant even if Gary Daniels tried to cover for the refs. Would you have accepted it if the same thing happened to BAMA and it ended one of your drives?
 
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Guys, again, come on, read the other threads, the no call on Cody wouldn't have mattered if they had called it, dead ball and it was Bama's ball so they still take a knee.

The offside was missed, but we tackled #57 on Crompton's long pass to put us in range and got away with it, 4 or 5 were false starts of our 8.

Rogan looked blatantly offsides on the onside kick also...

Officiating didn't lose this game...


I never said anything about the no call on Cody affecting the game but rules are rules and there were 2 penalties on that play and a ref aiding the home team in locating the ball.

Rogan was not offsides on the onside kick....not sure what play you were watching.

The only penalty that could be called questionable in our favor was the no call on the jump ball to Julio in the endzone but the ball was uncatchable for Julio due to his lack of a play on it. The push by Rogan actually helped BAMA because it kept him from getting 2 hands on it an picking it off.
 
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The illegal "block" below the waist called on the Tennessee guy during an Alabama return was strange to me. It may have been the correct call (I'm not exactly up on the rulebook), but I've never seen that called especially on a man trying to make a tackle. That being said, the refs DID NOT cost us the game, special teams did.... For the most part, I'm very proud of the team.. The future is looking good.


I agree. Odd rule that I have never seen called before. I am all about protecting player safety but it's not like it was a chop block. The blockers were looking directly at him and what's the difference between that play and busting a wedge?
 
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who won't admit that BAMA got preferential treatment.

What's your honest opinion of UT's first drive of the game where BAMA's DL blatantly jumped offside and nearly touched our OL before blasting Crompton to cause an incomplete pass?

Had that been called like it should have been, then we would have had the ball with a 3rd & 9 and would have been in FG range. Not sure if Lincoln would have hit it but we should have at least had the opportunity to kick the FG or get a 1st down.

What about the fact that the line judges were consistently at off by about a yard in the placement of the ball and the ref who spotted it further back always got his way? There were at least 5 instances where we had a 1/2 yard or yard shaved off of our play.

What about the phantom holding call at a crucial part of the game? What about an extra 11 seconds being taken off the clock on our drive at the end of the 1st half? Had the clock been managed correctly we would have had time for another play to get us closer on the FG that came up short.

How about BAMA jumping offsides and causing movement and it getting called on UT? What about a couple of missed holding calls against BAMA?

What about the headset issue at the beginning of the game? Pretty strange how quickly that issue got fixed once it was apparent that the issue would effect BAMA more.....I find it hard to believe that it was magically fixed in a matter of seconds.

I'm not even going to mention the numerous problems on the last play of the game. Regardless of how it would have affected the outcome an Unsportsmanlike Conduct Penalty should have been called on Cody, BAMA's players shouldn't have been on the field with time left on the clock and the ref certainly shouldn't have pointed out the ball to the BAMA players and then try to play it off like he didn't just do so.

I find it truly amazing how one-sided the officiating was and BAMA fans refusal to admit it.

No explanation is needed. Sometimes a team is just lucky like that. :)
 
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Guys, again, come on, read the other threads, the no call on Cody wouldn't have mattered if they had called it, dead ball and it was Bama's ball so they still take a knee.

The offside was missed, but we tackled #57 on Crompton's long pass to put us in range and got away with it, 4 or 5 were false starts of our 8.

Rogan looked blatantly offsides on the onside kick also...

Officiating didn't lose this game...

For real, listen to this man. There was some bad no calls on BOTH sides. This thread just makes you guys seem like sore losers. I think it was a great game that could have went either way and just another good game to add to this rivalary!!
 
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Look, buddy. Great teams get great calls when they need them. We are well on our way to a MNC. This was our stumble game. We are tired. Just wait to see what we do the the rest of the season.

You guys are almost exactly where we were two years ago... hang on and enjoy the ride! Not too sure, but when Tebow is gone, this game might determine the SEC champ for many years to come!
 
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Look, buddy. Great teams get great calls when they need them. We are well on our way to a MNC. This was our stumble game. We are tired. Just wait to see what we do the the rest of the season.

You guys are almost exactly where we were two years ago... hang on and enjoy the ride! Not too sure, but when Tebow is gone, this game might determine the SEC champ for many years to come!
Whatever helps you sleep at night, but Puke Elroy sucks out loud.
 
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For real, listen to this man. There was some bad no calls on BOTH sides. This thread just makes you guys seem like sore losers. I think it was a great game that could have went either way and just another good game to add to this rivalary!!


What were the bad calls that went against you guys? I would love to know.

I never said that the calls directly cost us the game but it's blind homerism to act like a vast majority of the calls went in BAMA's favor and that quite a few of them were questionable at best and at worst were flat out erroneouos.
 
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Refs didn't cost us the game, STs did. Game was ours for the taking.
But refs did keep it from being an even bigger UT win. I really don't care if you call us sore losers, cuz I hate losing, and will always be sore about it, especially to cheats.
I'm i were a dirty Bamer right now, I wouldn't be celebrating Cody's game saving plays, I'd be pretty worried about how my team looked against a team with 1 conference win.
 
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Look, buddy. Great teams get great calls when they need them. We are well on our way to a MNC. This was our stumble game. We are tired. Just wait to see what we do the the rest of the season.

You guys are almost exactly where we were two years ago... hang on and enjoy the ride! Not too sure, but when Tebow is gone, this game might determine the SEC champ for many years to come!


Great calls when they need them ? what in the hell does that even mean ? I hate to burst your bubble, but Bama is far from great, good yes, great no.
 

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