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volbeast33 said:
It was a question on overcrowding.....he was saying they weren't over crowded that they ideally want them in the 90-100% full bc its more economical. He even said that ideally they would have less prison population period.
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So if they are only at 60% occupancy, are they running less economically? What measures would they take to run more efficiently if they don't have enough? What measures would they take if they have way too many?
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
How am I evading?

In the mall scenario, if the bombers called in a threat and the public would become aware, he would lose business. That is injury.
But, if the bomb didn't go off, and there was no call in threat, I suppose there were no victims. No one would ever find out, until someone stumbled upon the bomb. So.... Technically no crime.
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You can't be serious...
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So if they are only at 60% occupancy, are they running less economically? What measures would they take to run more efficiently if they don't have enough? What measures would they take if they have way too many?
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Yes they are....you move prisoners around so all of them would be closer to the 90% capacity.....if that does not work then u have to shut down halls, lay off employees if that's possible.....of course I'm just guessing bc I have had to do something similar based on numbers and budgets even though it's not a prison.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
I'm okay with KPD shooting this clown dead. When you attack a cop you lose. Ron Carden's family should be sued for the cost of defending their litigation.

Off-screen disagreements: No plans for KPD body cams
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The same could easily be said the other way around. Like I said the other day. In a ton of theses videos, I feel the people would've been well within their rights to defend themselves. By any means necessary.

I'll agree with the last part. I absolutely think in civil suits that, if they rule in favor of the defendant, the plaintiff should liable for the defendants cost. I think it would certainly cut down on frivolous lawsuits. People would only sue when they were pretty damn sure they'd win.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Horses**t
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I don't know if it's 3 felonies a day, but the point is there are so many laws there is definitely something serious you can be busted for.

There are so many cases where agents have the wrong guy and instead of accepting their shame they just look and look and look until they find something to charge them with. If they look hard enough they will find something.

I'm reminded of this 70 yo retired plant enthusiast they thought was trying to smuggle drugs. They confiscated all his plants, his computer, etc. and couldn't find anything drug related...but based on his emails they were able to charge him with something like conspiracy to smuggle orchids into the US (simply for an inquiry). He spent his life savings on his defense, he lost his home, and did like 8 years.

If they want to, they will find something.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
The same could easily be said the other way around. Like I said the other day. In a ton of theses videos, I feel the people would've been well within their rights to defend themselves. By any means necessary.

I'll agree with the last part. I absolutely think in civil suits that, if they rule in favor of the defendant, the plaintiff should liable for the defendants cost. I think it would certainly cut down on frivolous lawsuits. People would only sue when they were pretty damn sure they'd win.
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The good thing is, these cameras keep getting cheaper. There will not be a valid argument to not have them on every LEO and mounted in every cop car unless the government wants to be allowed to assault citizens and deny them of their liberties.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I don't know if it's 3 felonies a day, but the point is there are so many laws there is definitely something serious you can be busted for.

There are so many cases where agents have the wrong guy and instead of accepting their shame they just look and look and look until they find something to charge them with. If they look hard enough they will find something.

I'm reminded of this 70 yo retired plant enthusiast they thought was trying to smuggle drugs. They confiscated all his plants, his computer, etc. and couldn't find anything drug related...but based on his emails they were able to charge him with something like conspiracy to smuggle orchids into the US (simply for an inquiry). He spent his life savings on his defense, he lost his home, and did like 8 years.

If they want to, they will find something.
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Stories like this are why I always grin at the "don't break the law and the cops will leave you alone" and "funny I've never been messed with by the cops" arguments.

I mean yes... Odds are high that nothing like this will ever happen to me or that I'll get myself in a position to be shot by LE. But to act like it's not possible is living with you head in the sand. And the fact that you stood on the sideline and cheered them on when they where doing it to someone else won't matter in the least.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
The good thing is, these cameras keep getting cheaper. There will not be a valid argument to not have them on every LEO and mounted in every cop car unless the government wants to be allowed to assault citizens and deny them of their liberties.
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They're getting cheaper for sure but that doesn't stop department heads from giving no-bid contracts to companies like Taser to supply the cameras at about 5 times what they're worth just before retiring and taking a job with guess who... Taser

New Mexico auditor says ex-police chief got perks from Taser

525 camera for $2 million. That's about $4k a camera. Now I realize it probably needs to be better quality/more reliable then the Gopro you can get at Walmart for $100 but that's ridiculous. That's seriously just one of dozens of cases like these where department heads are given perks for delivering Taser with no bid contracts to supply the body cameras.

It appears that, at worst, he'll get a slap on the wrist but I'm betting not even that.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
They're getting cheaper for sure but that doesn't stop department heads from giving no-bid contracts to companies like Taser to supply the cameras at about 5 times what they're worth just before retiring and taking a job with guess who... Taser

New Mexico auditor says ex-police chief got perks from Taser

525 camera for $2 million. That's about $4k a camera. Now I realize it probably needs to be better quality/more reliable then the Gopro you can get at Walmart for $100 but that's ridiculous. That's seriously just one of dozens of cases like these where department heads are given perks for delivering Taser with no bid contracts to supply the body cameras.

It appears that, at worst, he'll get a slap on the wrist but I'm betting not even that.
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Ridiculous. Even with that abuse of power though, you'd think that cameras on every LEO will generate significant cost savings from insurance, lawyers defending frivolous lawsuits, and time spent investigating complaints. Plus DAs should have more proof of actual crimes. On the other hand lawyers will drive up costs by examining all of the footage.
 
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http://youtu.be/0VkkOMMmQIg

Warning lots of bad language. Favorite quote from the whole video...

"I don't look handicap? You don't look well enough to be an f'n officer with your gut hanging over your stomach. I didn't say s*** to you."

This is one of those instances where I don't think he should be put in jail or anything but I don't think that guy needs to be a police officer. He obviously thinks he has the right to detain/harass people who aren't breaking the law simply because he doesn't like their behavior. I realize I'm assuming but I feel pretty comfortable assuming this guy probably has a history or treating people this way and I simply think we should weed that attitude out of LE.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
http://youtu.be/0VkkOMMmQIg

Warning lots of bad language. Favorite quote from the whole video...

"I don't look handicap? You don't look well enough to be an f'n officer with your gut hanging over your stomach. I didn't say s*** to you."

This is one of those instances where I don't think he should be put in jail or anything but I don't think that guy needs to be a police officer. He obviously thinks he has the right to detain/harass people who aren't breaking the law simply because he doesn't like their behavior. I realize I'm assuming but I feel pretty comfortable assuming this guy probably has a history or treating people this way and I simply think we should weed that attitude out of LE.
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And what was the violation? Parking in a handicapped spot.

So selling loose cigarettes, busted taillights, rolling stops, illegal lane changes, flipping the bird, eye rolling, and now parking in a handicapped spot is worthy of police abuse.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
http://youtu.be/0VkkOMMmQIg

Warning lots of bad language. Favorite quote from the whole video...

"I don't look handicap? You don't look well enough to be an f'n officer with your gut hanging over your stomach. I didn't say s*** to you."

This is one of those instances where I don't think he should be put in jail or anything but I don't think that guy needs to be a police officer. He obviously thinks he has the right to detain/harass people who aren't breaking the law simply because he doesn't like their behavior. I realize I'm assuming but I feel pretty comfortable assuming this guy probably has a history or treating people this way and I simply think we should weed that attitude out of LE.
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13 minutes of going back and forth and 2 cops tied up from catching murderers, banksters, fraudsters, thieves and other real criminals. I'm not a big fan of these handicapped spots anyways...
 
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Cdywolfe said:
http://youtu.be/0VkkOMMmQIg

Warning lots of bad language. Favorite quote from the whole video...

"I don't look handicap? You don't look well enough to be an f'n officer with your gut hanging over your stomach. I didn't say s*** to you."

This is one of those instances where I don't think he should be put in jail or anything but I don't think that guy needs to be a police officer. He obviously thinks he has the right to detain/harass people who aren't breaking the law simply because he doesn't like their behavior. I realize I'm assuming but I feel pretty comfortable assuming this guy probably has a history or treating people this way and I simply think we should weed that attitude out of LE.
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That cop is a stooge. He's a prime example of the type that gives all cops a bad name.
 
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