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Grand Vol said:
Leaves a fingerprint on the vehicle in case something goes wrong. They can positively match the officer's prints to a specific vehicle.
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No kidding?

Interesting. I always assumed it was to feel and determine if the vehicle was running. (Vibrations)
 
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Obsessed said:
No kidding?

Interesting. I always assumed it was to feel and determine if the vehicle was running. (Vibrations)
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So what happens if it's a Tesla? :)

Since plates can (and are) swapped, it makes sense to have some form of marking if something goes majorly wrong.
 
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Grand Vol said:
So what happens if it's a Tesla? :)

Since plates can (and are) swapped, it makes sense to have some form of marking if something goes majorly wrong.
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Makes perfect sense....

Tesla? I'm in Arkansas. Lol

I honestly thought it was an old school thing that cops did.
 
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Obsessed said:
Makes perfect sense....

Tesla? I'm in Arkansas. Lol

I honestly thought it was an old school thing that cops did.
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It's something that's not really taught much anymore and isn't enforced. It's more of a technique from when vehicle mounted cameras weren't that prevalent.

And it's a whole lot easier than carving your initials and a time/date into the car body.
 
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tim said:
It is also used to make sure the trunk or hatch is closed completely.
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Yeah, we were told that too, although I didn't buy it as much. I mean, why wait until said patrolman is right next to the driver's door to pop out? Wouldn't it make more sense to attack while they are on approach?

"Hey Harry, wait until he's right next to the driver's door before you come out and get him. Don't bother doing it while he's walking up and has zero cover and concealment."

The fingerprints I could buy, but the whole trunk closed thing didn't ever really make sense to me.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Yeah, we were told that too, although I didn't buy it as much. I mean, why wait until said patrolman is right next to the driver's door to pop out? Wouldn't it make more sense to attack while they are on approach?

"Hey Harry, wait until he's right next to the driver's door before you come out and get him. Don't bother doing it while he's walking up and has zero cover and concealment."

The fingerprints I could buy, but the whole trunk closed thing didn't ever really make sense to me.
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You know how training is. But when it was explained to me almost 30 years ago I believe there were videos depicting assaults on officers while they were engaged with the driver (already past the trunk with their back exposed).
 
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tim said:
It is also used to make sure the trunk or hatch is closed completely.
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Makes sense.

I assume it must have been habit and along the lines as Grandvol stated (finger prints) as I was in my truck. No hatch or trunk.

I did catch him looking in my extended cab windows. Damn nosey ass cop. :)
 
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Obsessed said:
Makes sense.

I assume it must have been habit and along the lines as Grandvol stated (finger prints) as I was in my truck. No hatch or trunk.

I did catch him looking in my extended cab windows. Damn nosey ass cop. :)
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Sounds like an officer who paid attention in training. A lot of their tactics are designed to for safety and are generally non intrusive. Very good that you picked up on these things in your short interaction. You may have also noticed that he stayed behind the pillar and kept his strong hand free. Maybe training has changed, Grand may speak more to this.
 
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Obsessed said:
Makes sense.

I assume it must have been habit and along the lines as Grandvol stated (finger prints) as I was in my truck. No hatch or trunk.

I did catch him looking in my extended cab windows. Damn nosey ass cop. :)
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Cop was just checking to see that you hadn't kidnapped & tied up one of those U of AR female students.
 
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tim said:
You know how training is. But when it was explained to me almost 30 years ago I believe there were videos depicting assaults on officers while they were engaged with the driver (already past the trunk with their back exposed).
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I did it on high risk traffic stops, but not normally for typical traffic violations. But then again, I always positioned myself to be able to see the trunk and backseat out of the corner of my eye.

Old habits die hard.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I did it on high risk traffic stops, but not normally for typical traffic violations. But then again, I always positioned myself to be able to see the trunk and backseat out of the corner of my eye.

Old habits die hard.
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I still blade people in conversations, sit in the back of restaurants facing the door, and look for bulges in waist lines. It never goes away.
 
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tim said:
You may have also noticed that he stayed behind the pillar and kept his strong hand free. Maybe training has changed, Grand may speak more to this.
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Yep, should be the way the officer was positioned. Make the driver turn to you while you're out of the path of both their view as well as a door that's swung open. It also allows the officer to see into the passenger seat depending on the make of the vehicle.
 
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tim said:
I still blade people in conversations, sit in the back of restaurants facing the door, and look for bulges in waist lines. It never goes away.
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Nope, just the other day I asked a question to a new applicant. They didn't give the right answer so I kicked their chair out and hit them with the Metro phone book until I got an answer I liked.

Oh wait...
 
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tim said:
I still blade people in conversations, sit in the back of restaurants facing the door, and look for bulges in waist lines. It never goes away.
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I never sit with my back to the door and I've never been a cop. I don't even remember why I started doing it, but now it's a habit.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Nope, just the other day I asked a question to a new applicant. They didn't give the right answer so I kicked their chair out and hit them with the Metro phone book until I got an answer I liked.

Oh wait...
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I actually have a funny story here, relayed to me by someone who was old when I started. And, no, he did not strike the subject.
 
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