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FLVOL69 said:
Those rifts will always be there as long as the dems spew their hate filled agenda of racism and profiling by LEO, go back and compare the murder rate after Rudy Giuliani took charge in contrast to comrade DiBlasio, not even close.. A mere inconvience if you're a law abiding citizen. Jmo
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There still needs to be reconciliation and trust between the NYPD and the local communities before any program is successful. And that won't be an easy or quick process as the well has been pretty poisoned by now by the actions from both sides.

Stop and frisk may help reduce the amount of illegal firearms on the streets, but it's not going to do anything to help mend the relationship of the communities in question unless they buy into it. Which they will not.
 
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Why armed drug cops took ‘every belonging’ from a Michigan soccer mom - The Washington Post

The shakedowns continue. Follow the law and you're in compliance? Doesn't matter.

If you try to defend yourself in court, they'll just deflect with this nonsense:

"She's a liar, plain and simple. That's all I can tell you," he (Sheriff Tim Donnellon) said. He says that the task force did not hang lingerie from the ceiling fans or stomp food on the floor. The Shattucks, he said, are "trying to further their cause, which at the base of it is the legalization of marijuana in the state of Michigan."
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Some more information on this:

Aggressive police take hundreds of millions of dollars from motorists not charged with crimes | The Washington Post

Asset forfeiture is an extraordinarily powerful law enforcement tool that allows the government to take cash and property without pressing criminal charges and then requires the owners to prove their possessions were legally acquired.
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This is the opposite of "innocent until proven guilty". The Post-9/11 landscape has made fearful subjects of us all where we're compelled to prove our innocence instead of forcing the government to prove our guilt.
 
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This appears to be a case of a cop being caught in an extremely difficult situation. Once he pulled the car over for running the red light (which he was correct in doing), his every move was guaranteed to be criticized unless the guy lived. Not fair to the officer.
 
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Dr Dread said:
I swear it looks like all he did was raise shirt to show he was not armed.
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He did have his right hand wrist deep in his pants...... The cop must have hit him right near his heart. He was dead within seconds..... Most disturbing thing ive seen in a while
 
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Carl Pickens said:
He did have his right hand wrist deep in his pants...... The cop must have hit him right near his heart. He was dead within seconds..... Most disturbing thing ive seen in a while
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I can see why the shooting was justified but a very sad situation
 
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It's like this, apply the same scenario to a private citizen, they'd put us in the electric chair. This cop killed that kid for no reason at all.
Kid wasn't armed, he was walking away. What that chicken **** cop did was murder, and he should fry for it.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Well, I wouldn't be using stop and frisk to find weapons for starters...

Community policing would be essential in this case as York pointed out some months ago. Get the communities invested in themselves along with assistance from LEOs when and if needed. But it starts from the ground up with the residents putting their feet down against the gang activity.

Nothing is going to completely stop the killing. But stop and frisk is not the answer as it doesn't combat the problem. Neither is flooding an area with additional police. If you don't have a community that has a vested interest in securing themselves, nothing the NYPD does will work in the long run.
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That is the hard part.. or at least the part that no one wants to really address.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Please explain why you say the shooting was justified.
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The guy was told to stop and raise his hands....his two friends complied and were not shot. The one that was, walked away with is hand I his waist band and turned pulling hi hand out of his pants. The cop had every right to believe a gun was involved. A very tragic and disturbing situation all the way around.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
It's like this, apply the same scenario to a private citizen, they'd put us in the electric chair. This cop killed that kid for no reason at all.
Kid wasn't armed, he was walking away. What that chicken **** cop did was murder, and he should fry for it.
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You keep saying this but the same rules don't apply to cops and average citizens. It's no different then I cant perform the same procedures that medical personnel perform or that numerous other professions are allowed to do what is allowed in their professions. When have they called you at home telling you that an armed man is walking through town flashing a gun and you need to respond?
 
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Dr Dread said:
This appears to be a case of a cop being caught in an extremely difficult situation. Once he pulled the car over for running the red light (which he was correct in doing), his every move was guaranteed to be criticized unless the guy lived. Not fair to the officer.
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Agreed, it's hard not to kill someone for running a red light
 
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tim said:
Well, I watched the edited video of Ms. Sheehans unfortunate incident. Obviously she is culpable, at least partly, in this accident. There are obviously several minutes of edited footage showing her repeated assaults on the officers and active resistance. A better solution exists, but I do not believe the officers intent was to slam her that hard. It appears, to me, that she was struggling and the officer lost his grip. Imo.
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How the help do you get struggling or of that? I watched the video and it's looked to me like she was guided to the ground with her hands held away from her body and the intent of face planting her. The cops in the station should be sued, the department should be sued, and the city should be sued. The only weapon she had was that f'ing shrill scream.
 
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