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DinkinFlicka said:
This is a really immature and idiotic response to a legitimate point.

But, given how you have been constructing your argument on the subject, it's not surprising. It's sad that someone adopts such a liberal philosophy when it comes to government controlling our lives.
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Fascist, not liberal. Other than that pedantic nuance, I agree.
 
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volbeast33 said:
I am not trying to necessarily get involved in this argument bc im not sure which side I agree with but doing hard drugs does and can change a person. Im glad it didn't u but I have seen several that it has.
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If someone really wants to do hard drugs, laws won't stop them.

When I was younger and going to music festivals, you could find anything you wanted in a matter of hours.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
If someone really wants to do hard drugs, laws won't stop them.

When I was younger and going to music festivals, you could find anything you wanted in a matter of hours.
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I agree but it may stop the undecided from trying them....Im not really sure which side im on bc I agree the drug laws are not working as they are now.
 
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volbeast33 said:
What?!??!? There are drugs that are made whose entire intent is to change someone's personality.
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From a medical standpoint, you might appreciate Portugal's decriminalization. Look it up. The biggest effect stems from addicts seeking treatment for intravenous-related diseases.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Change their personality? How so?

Change their mood, sure. But that doesn't change their personality.
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I work in a facility where some drugs cause patient's to be more violent and some that cause them to mellow out...What do u consider someone's personality? Drugs also changes people's thought processes and lowers their inhibitions and lessens the person's ability to discern between right and wrong.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
From a medical standpoint, you might appreciate Portugal's decriminalization. Look it up. The biggest effect stems from addicts seeking treatment from intravenous-related diseases.
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I have and its what has changed my opinion on it somewhat....I am not sure I believe that all of their data and I know that their is definitely societal differences. Im willing to give it a shot but it also might not work the same here in the US.
 
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volbeast33 said:
I work in a facility where some drugs cause patient's to be more violent and some that cause them to mellow out...What do u consider someone's personality? Drugs also changes people's thought processes and lowers their inhibitions and lessens the person's ability to discern between right and wrong.
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What drugs prevent people from seeing right from wrong?
 
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volbeast33 said:
I work in a facility where some drugs cause patient's to be more violent and some that cause them to mellow out...What do u consider someone's personality? Drugs also changes people's thought processes and lowers their inhibitions and lessens the person's ability to discern between right and wrong.
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So do money and women ;-)
 
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volbeast33 said:
I work in a facility where some drugs cause patient's to be more violent and some that cause them to mellow out...What do u consider someone's personality? Drugs also changes people's thought processes and lowers their inhibitions and lessens the person's ability to discern between right and wrong.
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Wasting your time.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
It was a play off your argument so thanks.

I'm just saying, try and formulate a logical argument if you're gonna derail the thread.
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How did I derail the thread? I made an argument to a post that alluded that drug use was a victimless crime. I also backed up my claim by providing evidence.
 
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Vol8188 said:
What drugs prevent people from seeing right from wrong?
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Have u ever been around someone that was close to you and they became an addict? I am not talking about the people that tried something once or even occasionally use socially....It most certainly changes people and changes what they view as right and wrong.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Have u ever been around someone that was close to you and they became an addict? I am not talking about the people that tried something once or even occasionally use socially....It most certainly changes people and changes what they view as right and wrong.
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Just to be clear,

You're admitting that no drug you know of changes ones ability to tell right from wrong?

If you can name a drug and show me the studies,then let's talk about them. But to just say "addiction changes people" is a weak argument.
 
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Grand Vol said:
You said there is "massive" incompetence and corruption in police forces. You made a statement like that, got called out and now try to demand period to the contrary?

No, it's up to you to back up your bull**** claim. Now where is your proof?

As for arresting you, have you done something wrong? Got any outstanding warrants?
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I see now this pos had previous accusations against him but he was exonerated by his brothers. You're spot on, no massive amounts of incompetence at all.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Just to be clear,

You're admitting that no drug you know of changes ones ability to tell right from wrong?

If you can name a drug and show me the studies,then let's talk about them. But to just say "addiction changes people" is a weak argument.
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I have never done illegal drugs, never smoked pot, and never been drunk a day in my life. The reason I made those choices was bc my dad was an alcoholic and I saw how it changed him when he drank extremely heavily. He has been quit for 20 yrs and is a completely different man than the one before.

I also had a best friend that was an honor student, great guy, wouldnt steal or harm another person and I saw how getting into meth changed and destroyed his life. Those are just two examples that I have personally witnessed.

I see daily how legal drugs change patient's from violent to mellow, makes them confused to the point to where they don't know the difference between right and wrong, seen drugs that causes people to hallucinate and think they are fighting a demon or seeing ghosts.

If u need a name of a specific drug, I cant give u that and don't need a study to feel the way I do when I have seen it first hand.
 
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