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DinkinFlicka said:
I believe certain things play a bigger part than race, but that doesn't mean race isn't a factor.
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On a given individual incident, sure, it could be a race thing.

But focusing on that, which America does, we lose sight that it is really an epidemic of overzealous power hungry policing that really does not focus on just race.
 
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You're exactly right, allvol. One way to address the larger issue is to not put "but..." qualifiers to these race-oriented outcries, but rather "...and" and then include the widespread general epidemic of unchecked overzealous policing. Those people talking about it as a race thing? They're right, that is a facet of it. Now show them that the problem extends even further.
 
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allvol123 said:
On a given individual incident, sure, it could be a race thing.

But focusing on that, which America does, we lose sight that it is really an epidemic of overzealous power hungry policing that really does not focus on just race.
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On the flip, you can see it as another way to highlight the police state. I do. A lot of people I know do the same.

Sure, it's way bigger than Michael Brown, Eric Garner, or Darrien Hunt... but if that raises awareness and some folks see it on their news feed, then why not. If it gets them to look into overzealous policing, that's great too.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
On the flip, you can see it as another way to highlight the police state. I do. A lot of people I know do the same.

Sure, it's way bigger than Michael Brown, Eric Garner, or Darrien Hunt... but if that raises awareness and some folks see it on their news feed, then why not. If it gets them to look into overzealous policing, that's great too.
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So instead of highlighting the police state, you make people think every white cop is a racist too? If thats what you are saying....sounds like a brilliant plan.
 
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allvol123 said:
I would disagree.

This profession grabs a segment of youths with a certain personality. The allure of complete power seems captivating to some people.
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Sure...

Just like 8188, you have absolutely zero proof to back up such a claim.
 
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This guy deserves to be in jail by the way the evidence looks that we have seen. People need to realize that cops are just humans.....there are some good ones and some bad ones. I respect the job that they do.
 
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On the face of it, its not like the cop set out that day to kill someone. If there was a struggle and the guy fought with him over the taser, it just seems like he panicked at the loss of control, and simply did not demonstrate the restraint that his training and the law require of him at that moment. That's a hard part of that job - having the objective awareness to be able to remove yourself from the heat of the moment and keep a level head.
 
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The officer in SC claimed he was in fear for his life. We've seen officers blatantly yelling falsehoods, such as "he's going for my gun!" or "stop resisting, stop resisting" when these things weren't happening. So the question is, should an officer be held to a higher standard when it comes to truth telling? In other words, should the penalty for making a false claim (either verbally or in writing) be higher for a police officer than an ordinary citizen? If I could go to jail for a year for making a false report, should an officer go to jail for two?
 
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YorkVol said:
The officer in SC claimed he was in fear for his life. We've seen officers blatantly yelling falsehoods, such as "he's going for my gun!" or "stop resisting, stop resisting" when these things weren't happening. So the question is, should an officer be held to a higher standard when it comes to truth telling? In other words, should the penalty for making a false claim (either verbally or in writing) be higher for a police officer than an ordinary citizen? If I could go to jail for a year for making a false report, should an officer go to jail for two?
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Yes. If lawyers can lose their license for perjury, why shouldn't cops lose their jobs for the same thing?
 
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Interesting how the cop bashers are so ready to take what happened here and extrapolate it to mean that every officer lies when he says a suspect struggled with him.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Interesting how the cop bashers are so ready to take what happened here and extrapolate it to mean that every officer lies when he says a suspect struggled with him.
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Except that's not what was said at all.

And quite humorous you just literally did the thing you accused them of doing.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Interesting how the cop bashers are so ready to take what happened here and extrapolate it to mean that every officer lies when he says a suspect struggled with him.
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Except for nobody said "every" officer. Don't throw your back out knocking those straw men over.
 
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YorkVol said:
The officer in SC claimed he was in fear for his life. We've seen officers blatantly yelling falsehoods, such as "he's going for my gun!" or "stop resisting, stop resisting" when these things weren't happening. So the question is, should an officer be held to a higher standard when it comes to truth telling? In other words, should the penalty for making a false claim (either verbally or in writing) be higher for a police officer than an ordinary citizen? If I could go to jail for a year for making a false report, should an officer go to jail for two?
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Absolutely yes.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Interesting how the cop bashers are so ready to take what happened here and extrapolate it to mean that every officer lies when he says a suspect struggled with him.
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So your answer is they should not be held to a higher level of accountability if they lie?

Ok, we'll add you to that column.
 
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