BartW
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Lots of strawman. There are still armed police officers in the UK. Gun control is not the reason that man is still alive; superior police service is the reason he is alive.Let's see.
Intent - Lunging at an officer
Capability - Having a screwdriver in one's hands while lunging at said officer
Opportunity - Being less than five feet away from said officer when lunging.
Serious bodily harm - Loss of eyesight, limb(s), major irreparable trauma or that harm which could lead to:
Death - Need I explain this one.
The Atlanta situation, if the details are correct in the article(s) about it, is one that will very likely go to a grand jury. And should. I also disagreed with the decision in New York concerning Garner. I think that one should have gone to trial. I think the Ferguson situation was the right call.
But you'd rather disarm police and let thugs like Michael Brown assault them until they are seriously injured or dead. Or allow one to get stabbed in the neck by a mentally ill person that suddenly got violent.
So again, how many cops have to be seriously injured or dead by the hands of the criminal element before you are happy? The only, and I stress only, reason the British police are without firearms is because of the strict gun control laws in that nation in particular. Are you suggesting the same method to be used here? Unilateral disarmament of the civilian population in the United States?
You are equating the mentally ill with the criminal. That is grossly offensive. You really think a manic patient intends to hurt anyone? Your idea of intent, capability, and opportunity are as broad and subjective as Tims idea of felony resisting arrest. Are you that afraid the manic patient is going to wrestle your gun away and shoot you? Does the patient literally have to be naked and 100+ feet away before police killing is unjustified?
I already told you I value police lives and civilian lives equally. If our LE would take on a little more risk and (a lot) more training I think we would avoid a significant number of needless police killings. Are you not willing to say how much you value cop lives vs. civilian lives? Do you think the statistics are fair and balanced already?
FTR I also agreed with the Ferguson rulings
