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Cdywolfe said:
This argument has always been exceptionally amusing to me as the people that use it obviously don't have the slightest clue what they're talking about.

Just because your airway is patent enough for you to force just enough air through it to beg for your life in no way means that you're being adequately oxygenated.
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You are the one clueless here. Prove my statement false.
 
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YorkVol said:
I'm White, but have Black sons and a Black daughter, as well as a White son and two White daughters. Older Black son has been stopped by the police 3 times walking from the bus to the house. Younger Black son has been accused of stealing bikes and investigated by the police, but they dropped it when they met me face to face. Black daughter and younger Black son have been kicked out of a local convenience store twice without cause. After I introduced myself they were allowed in without question.

None of the other kids have ever been stopped or had anything but positive encounters with the police, store owners etc. Not drawing conclusions about these events being racially motivated, but they did happen.

None of my kids steal, or break things or do anything wrong that would draw the attention of the authorities, so why were they treated the way they were in your mind?
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There are racists out there in the population. Some of those racists become police officers.

Have any of your kids had an arrest history?
 
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jp1 said:
You are the one clueless here. Prove my statement false.
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Garner could scream. Garner died from asphyxiation.

Second, the ME ruled that Mr. Garner’s death was caused by “compression of neck (choke hold), compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police.”[13] The ME report, which we have physically seen, specifically states “compression of the neck (chokehold)”.[14] The compression of Garner’s neck was around his windpipe, causing the asphyxiation, a result of Pantaleo’s arm around his neck. (Whether it was technically a ‘chokehold’ is in dispute, [15] with Officer Panataleo claiming it was a “take down maneuver.[16] What is clear from the video is that Officer Pantaleo put his arm around Mr. Garner’s neck and that Mr. Garner stated that he could not breathe while Officer Pantaleo applied neck and chest compression.[17])

Eric Garner FAQs | Social Justice Initiatives | Columbia Law School
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Asphyxiation is suffocation. Suffocation is the inability to breath sufficiently to continue the respiratory process.

Check mate. Now, shut up.
 
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therealUT said:
Garner could scream. Garner died from asphyxiation.



Asphyxiation is suffocation. Suffocation is the inability to breath sufficiently to continue the respiratory process.

Check mate. Now, shut up.
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Prove my statement false Mr Checkmate.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
By all means keep using that argument then… Most people are just as ignorant as you so I'm sure it'll work out just fine for you most of the time.
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If I'm ignorant then get with Trut and prove my statement false. I will be patiently waiting on a response.
 
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jp1 said:
Lol....there is a reason that you cant disprove my statement. Carry on.
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Let me ask you a question first… Do you consider this man to have had the ability to breathe based solely on the fact that he was able to muster up enough energy to expire just enough air to produce sound in a desperate attempt to save his life?

Because technically, if we wanted to be 100% literal I suppose that could be classified as breathing. Though breathing is really defined as taking air into the lungs and expelling it (i'm paraphrasing there, but that's the jist of at least a half a dozen definitions that I looked up) and inspiration really isn't required to desperately yell "I can't breathe" but we'll ignore that for now and assume the man had at least one cycle of inspiration and expiration.

So that's the definition of breathing that you're basing your argument on?
 
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Cdywolfe said:
Let me ask you a question first… Do you consider this man to have had the ability to breathe based solely on the fact that he was able to muster up enough energy to expire just enough air to produce sound in a desperate attempt to save his life?

Because technically, if we wanted to be 100% literal I suppose that could be classified as breathing. Though breathing is really defined as taking air into the lungs and expelling it (i'm paraphrasing there, but that's the jist of at least a half a dozen definitions that I looked up) and inspiration really isn't required to desperately yell "I can't breathe" but we'll ignore that for now and assume the man had at least one cycle of inspiration and expiration.

So that's the definition of breathing that you're basing your argument on?
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I wonder if it's posible to have the ability to exhale without having the ability to inhale?
 
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jp1 said:
I wonder if it's posible to have the ability to exhale without having the ability to inhale?
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Yes or no? Is desperately moving air past the vocal chords to produce sound in an attempt to save your life what you would consider breathing?
 
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jp1 said:
Why is that?
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Because they are kids? In their own neighborhood?

Two 10th grade kids get off the bus and walk down the street toward their house. One walks faster than the other so is about 20 feet ahead. Slower kid is wearing jeans, t-shirt and hoodie, longish hair, scraggly beard, slightly unkempt look. Faster kid is wearing a military style uniform, short cropped hair, clean shaven. Police car drives by the slower kid and then stops to check out the other one with the words, "What are you doing in this neighborhood?" I'll let you guess the particular skin colors.

Now you can say that particular officer was racist, or just doing random checks to keep the neighborhood safe. But after the third time with different officers each time, what conclusion can you make?
 
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jp1 said:
I wonder if it's posible to have the ability to exhale without having the ability to inhale?
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Have you ever seen a constrictor eat live prey? If you have, then you've seen an example of something being able to exhale without being able to inhale.
 
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jp1 said:
Prove my statement false Mr Checkmate.
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1. You cannot prove that something is false. So, that's idiotic.

2. According to the Medical Examiner, he died because he could not ****ing breath anymore. So, one of you is correct: either the ME or...you. I'm going with the ME you pterodactyl-brained moron.
 
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therealUT said:
1. You cannot prove that something is false. So, that's idiotic.

2. According to the Medical Examiner, he died because he could not ****ing breath anymore. So, one of you is correct: either the ME or...you. I'm going with the ME you pterodactyl-brained moron.
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Name calling is what someone that knows he is wrong resorts to......was he breathing when he said "I can't breathe"? yes or no? Simple question.
 
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jp1 said:
Name calling is what someone that knows he is wrong resorts to......was he breathing when he said "I can't breathe"? yes or no? Simple question.
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No. Next. Speaking and breathing are, for most humans, mutually exclusive.

Pick up a book, open it randomly, and read it aloud without stopping to breath. See how far you get before you have to catch your breath.

Are persons born this stupid or is this the result of trauma?
 
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YorkVol said:
Because they are kids? In their own neighborhood?

Two 10th grade kids get off the bus and walk down the street toward their house. One walks faster than the other so is about 20 feet ahead. Slower kid is wearing jeans, t-shirt and hoodie, longish hair, scraggly beard, slightly unkempt look. Faster kid is wearing a military style uniform, short cropped hair, clean shaven. Police car drives by the slower kid and then stops to check out the other one with the words, "What are you doing in this neighborhood?" I'll let you guess the particular skin colors.

Now you can say that particular officer was racist, or just doing random checks to keep the neighborhood safe. But after the third time with different officers each time, what conclusion can you make?
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Im not doubting that they were hassled or whatever because of their skin color. That is wrong no matter how you slice it. I was asking why they haven't been arrested to this point? I think you know what I'm getting at.
 
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jp1 said:
Im not doubting that they were hassled or whatever because of their skin color. That is wrong no matter how you slice it. I was asking why they haven't been arrested to this point? I think you know what I'm getting at.
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Because their white father showed up to resolve the situation.
 
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therealUT said:
No. Next. Speaking and breathing are, for most humans, mutually exclusive.

Pick up a book, open it randomly, and read it aloud without stopping to breath. See how far you get before you have to catch your breath.

Are persons born this stupid or is this the result of trauma?
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Lol.....youre not as smart as you think you are. The answer is definitely YES.
 
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jp1 said:
Name calling is what someone that knows he is wrong resorts to......was he breathing when he said "I can't breathe"? yes or no? Simple question.
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Look, the man could obviously breathe in the technical sense. The problem is that his breathing was being restricted or he was laboring to breathe because of the situation.

Why are you trying to play coy and getting into a semantics argument? You know full well what a person screaming for help is.
 
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