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Eric Garner would have been guilty of a felony...

New York should change resisting arrest to a felony charge so criminals who do so face harsher penalties, NYPD Commissioner Bill Bratton said today.

Increasing the punishment for the crime that can lead to 'potential injuries to the officer', was one of several recommendations Mr Bratton made to a joint hearing of four State Senate Committees.

Resisting arrest is currently a misdemeanor carrying a maximum punishment of one year.
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Potential injuries to the officer? :crazy:
The only ones we've seen dying are the citizens.

NYPD's top cop wants resisting arrest upgraded to a felony | Daily Mail Online
 
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tim said:
So NYPD didnt have 2 officers recently assasinated?
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You had 2 assassinated, but not in the process of making an arrest. The police chief is saying that making an arrest is dangerous for the officer.

My answer to that would be what they did the 2 weeks after the officers were shot... make fewer arrests and don't put themselves (or the citizens) in harms way.
 
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Keep in mind, the cops arrested him. They didn't exercise common sense, they arrested this guy.

Texas Man Arrested After Attempt To Pay Taxes With Dollar Bills - Forbes

Only there’s a little bit more to the story than that. The 27-year old Texan, Timothy Andrew Norris, arrived in person at the Wichita County Courthouse to pay his $600 property tax with individual dollar bills – only there was a twist. Or, er, a fold. Norris had allegedly folded each bill so tightly that it “required tax office personnel approximately six minutes to unfold each bill.”

If you’re doing the math, that means that it would take 3,600 minutes – or 60 hours, longer than a work week – to unfold the bills.

Tax Assessor Collector Tommy Smyth said that the spectacle brought work in the office to a halt so he asked Norris to leave. Norris refused and was eventually arrested and charged with criminal trespass. As you can imagine, Norris was none too happy about being arrested and attempted to break away from the arresting officer, earning him an additional charge of resisting arrest.
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Uhh ohh... and resisting arrest, too? That would be a felony if the NYPD and tim get their way. We can't have people paying their taxes... :crazy:
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So you agree with arresting him for paying his taxes?
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Oh, was that what he was arrested for? Because the article seems to say he was causing a disturbance and was told to leave, refused and then charged with trespassing. And furthermore, attempted to break away from the officers that took him into custody.

I'm glad you are here to make sure we got the correct story.
 
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Resisting arrest shouldn't be a charge ever. How many times are people arrested for resisting arrest? It's ridiculous.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Yeah, because fighting makes a lot more sense.
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It actually does. There are already laws on the books regarding assault, so one who assaults a police officer should be charged with assault as if he assaulted any other member of society. If one speeds away from and drives recklessly to avoid a police officer, then, as the laws currently stand, why not just add speeding and reckless driving to the charges?

Basically, if I feel I have done nothing criminal, why ought I simply obey the police officer and allow said police officer to interfere with my life? If the officer has evidence I have committed a crime, then that officer can turn in such evidence and I can be charged in absentia. The government can make sure that notifications of charges are both sent to individuals and widely published.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Yeah, because fighting makes a lot more sense.
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Do you actually have to fight to get a resisting charge? I thought someone who passively resisted(i.e. lay on the floor, chained themselves to a desk etc), could get one as well.
 
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therealUT said:
It actually does. There are already laws on the books regarding assault, so one who assaults a police officer should be charged with assault as if he assaulted any other member of society. If one speeds away from and drives recklessly to avoid a police officer, then, as the laws currently stand, why not just add speeding and reckless driving to the charges?
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I agree with this.

therealUT said:
Basically, if I feel I have done nothing criminal, why ought I simply obey the police officer and allow said police officer to interfere with my life? If the officer has evidence I have committed a crime, then that officer can turn in such evidence and I can be charged in absentia. The government can make sure that notifications of charges are both sent to individuals and widely published.
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Slightly agree. If you feel you haven't done anything wrong, but the police have evidence stating to the contrary, you should allow the system to work in your favor by requesting a lawyer.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Oh, was that what he was arrested for? Because the article seems to say he was causing a disturbance and was told to leave, refused and then charged with trespassing. And furthermore, attempted to break away from the officers that took him into custody.

I'm glad you are here to make sure we got the correct story.
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What was he doing to cause a disturbance? That's not clear to me.
 
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YorkVol said:
Do you actually have to fight to get a resisting charge? I thought someone who passively resisted(i.e. lay on the floor, chained themselves to a desk etc), could get one as well.
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Potentially. Circumstances dictate of course.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Yeah, because fighting makes a lot more sense.
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Why not? People have been arrested and charged with simply resisting arrest as the only charge. One of my sons frat brothers was arrested for resisting arrest at a frat party. I remember asking what they were arresting him for in the first place and he didn't know, they asked him to step outside and he told them no.
 
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therealUT said:
They did. Two cops out of, what, 30 killed by other individuals this year. So dangerous that we need to crack down even more on the subjects, I mean citizens.
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Being a cop is such a dangerous job that cops in California outlive the average Californian.
 
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YorkVol said:
Do you actually have to fight to get a resisting charge? I thought someone who passively resisted(i.e. lay on the floor, chained themselves to a desk etc), could get one as well.
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My friend was charged in college. Our GFs had a house party and they shut us down at like 10 pm and we lived in a neighborhood of just college students (welcome to Provo UT). My friend wasn't leaving, because he was obviously going to hang back and help his GF clean up. The cops tried to tell him to leave and when he tried to explain that, they slammed him on their patrol car and cuffed him. They charged him with failure to disperse and resisting arrest. Cop did not show up in court and charges were dropped. Only cost my buddy about 15 hours of his life.
 
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hog88 said:
I have little respect for the way many police are doing their job.
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I can't argue that, but think of the people they deal with on a daily basis.....most aren't your normal everyday folks that you work and socialize with.......it's typically the dregs of society and that has to lead to them becoming jaded
 
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Carl Pickens said:
I can't argue that, but think of the people they deal with on a daily basis.....most aren't your normal everyday folks that you work and socialize with.......it's typically the dregs of society and that has to lead to them becoming jaded
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So? They took the job. They'd best be able to deal with it or go back to loss prevention or mall security.
 
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