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tim said:
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I think there is no way to tell and in my humble opinion it would be devastating.

Edit: Happy Thanksgiving to you also!
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So the lady's point is, if we legalize drugs current drug dealers wouldn't be able to find jobs and would just resort to more crime.
Hmm, I'm not sure that's a good reason not to legalize honestly. Petty drug dealers are just that, petty crooks. Take the money out of it, and they do something else.
I would think the current power of the cartels would be cut drastically as well if legalization occurs. Would all drug dealers give up the life of crime and become model citizens? Most likely not, but their power would be drastically reduced.

At the end of the day we have to exercise some personal responsibility and relinquish our thirst for government intervention into our lives.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
At the end of the day we have to exercise some personal responsibility and relinquish our thirst for government intervention into our lives.
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The problem here that I've brought up before is the fact you will still have government intervention even if drugs are legalized. They will tax it, control it, regulate it, create even more government agencies to oversee it.

Etc, etc. See the alcohol or tobacco industry for example.

So the status quo likely will not change when it comes to government intervention and legalization.
 
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Grand Vol said:
The problem here that I've brought up before is the fact you will still have government intervention even if drugs are legalized. They will tax it, control it, regulate it, create even more government agencies to oversee it.

Etc, etc. See the alcohol or tobacco industry for example.

So the status quo likely will not change when it comes to government intervention and legalization.
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I would say Colorado and Washington state are a good testing area. Seems everything is pretty much ok there with legalized cannabis.

Regulate it, that's fine. Just stop the needless violence that comes in the name of the drug war.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
I would say Colorado and Washington state are a good testing area. Seems everything is pretty much ok there with legalized cannabis.

Regulate it, that's fine. Just stop the needless violence that comes in the name of the drug war.
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For pot, sure. Those can be test cases. But if it was to be legalized on a national level, I can flat guarantee you the government will lay a pretty heavy hand on the regulation of same. Much like the tobacco industry is now.

But even if drugs, all of them, are legalized, there will be something else that comes along that's prohibited. And you'll get yet another crime spree based on that. Just the way of the world.
 
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Grand Vol said:
For pot, sure. Those can be test cases. But if it was to be legalized on a national level, I can flat guarantee you the government will lay a pretty heavy hand on the regulation of same. Much like the tobacco industry is now.

But even if drugs, all of them, are legalized, there will be something else that comes along that's prohibited. And you'll get yet another crime spree based on that. Just the way of the world.
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Of course the government will reach to outlaw something else, it's what they do.

But if you really look at government, they only regulate the past, and we as human beings have the ability to outrun the government. Just look at technology, Bitcoin for instance.
 
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I would like to say I am for drug legalization in the sense that people will not have their lives ruined by some petty drug offense.

However, I'm fully against the state. If I legitimize the state by begging for my right to put whatever I want inside my body, I recognize the states right to exist, as an anarchist I cannot do so.
If that makes sense.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
I would like to say I am for drug legalization in the sense that people will not have their lives ruined by some petty drug offense.

However, I'm fully against the state. If I legitimize the state by begging for my right to put whatever I want inside my body, I recognize the states right to exist, as an anarchist I cannot do so.
If that makes sense.
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If people are stupid enough to jeopardize theirs lives over drugs they deserve to have their lives ruined.
 
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If people are stupid enough to jeopardize theirs lives over drugs they deserve to have their lives ruined.
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I think a question that needs to be asked is, why do you care what other people do with their lives? Why is it any of your business in the first place?
The truth is there are far more people addicted to prescribed medications, and that's "legal" isn't hypocrisy great?
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
I think a question that needs to be asked is, why do you care what other people do with their lives? Why is it any of your business in the first place?
The truth is there are far more people addicted to prescribed medications, and that's "legal" isn't hypocrisy great?
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Because their problem usually ends up being my problem. Their use/abuse wont end if legalization occurs. Also, peoples lives being "ruined" over a petty arrest is their problem. What concens me are the victims created by the "ruined" ones when they decide to take what is not theirs. Generally speaking people do NOT go to jail over a simple possession offense and are usually eligible for expungement. Its the chronic criminal who chooses to continue breaking the law that ends up in prison. I hear this argument all the time about our prisons being full of small time drug dealers and its simply not true. Our prisons are full of people who are chronic criminals.
 
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