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Grand Vol said:
Very Super Troopers-esque

Do you honestly think any department would ever let something like this see the light of day?
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Hell I don't know. I posted what I thought ( or didn't think). I figured a little humor was needed.

I'm assuming your "light of day comment" was sarcasm. Lord knows there has never been a bad video released before.
 
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Obsessed said:
Hell I don't know. I posted what I thought ( or didn't think). I figured a little humor was needed.

I'm assuming your "light of day comment" was sarcasm. Lord knows there has never been a bad video released before.
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Truth is stranger than fiction, either way the shlt is hilarious..
 
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Obsessed said:
I took it as cops poking fun at themselves.

I thought it was funny.
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I used to be a regular at a gastro pub in Denver and this alcoholic cop drank on the same schedule as I did. He was one of the funniest, most self deprecating people I ever met.

You could write a best seller based entirely off vodka influenced conversations with this guy.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
I used to be a regular at a gastro pub in Denver and this alcoholic cop drank on the same schedule as I did. He was one of the funniest, most self deprecating people I ever met.

You could write a best seller based entirely off vodka influenced conversations with this guy.
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Glad tha guy could carry a gun and have the full faith of the state behind him.
 
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I love Cracked. Sticking with the pop culture bend, I think one problem is we've glorified cops in movies. Guys go in wanting to be Bruce Willis, but the job is more like Reginald Veljohnson. A lot of what they do is boring (and I, for one, would get extremely stressed out about giving people traffic tickets). When there is action, some of those guys end up going over the top.

I don't blame them in many cases. They spend a lot of time training to use force. They watch media glorify the use of force. They are scared about what might happen if they are too hesitant to use force. Etc. Dealing with these kinds of factors, as a population, we would likely behave similarly. We just need to push for a change in law enforcement mindset so that we can prevent those factors from leading to an overuse of force.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I love Cracked. Sticking with the pop culture bend, I think one problem is we've glorified cops in movies. Guys go in wanting to be Bruce Willis, but the job is more like Reginald Veljohnson. A lot of what they do is boring (and I, for one, would get extremely stressed out about giving people traffic tickets). When there is action, some of those guys end up going over the top.

I don't blame them in many cases. They spend a lot of time training to use force. They watch media glorify the use of force. They are scared about what might happen if they are too hesitant to use force. Etc. Dealing with these kinds of factors, as a population, we would likely behave similarly. We just need to push for a change in law enforcement mindset so that we can prevent those factors from leading to an overuse of force.
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Good points, but its much simpler. There have always been cops who make poor decisions and there always will be. No amount of training, vetting, or guessing will ever change the fact. Just be happy knowing you will always be able to cut and paste links showing dumbasses being dumbasses.
 
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tim said:
Good points, but its much simpler. There have always been cops who make poor decisions and there always will be. No amount of training, vetting, or guessing will ever change the fact. Just be happy knowing you will always be able to cut and paste links showing dumbasses being dumbasses.
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Lord knows there's plenty in the world no matter the profession.
 
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tim said:
Good points, but its much simpler. There have always been cops who make poor decisions and there always will be. No amount of training, vetting, or guessing will ever change the fact. Just be happy knowing you will always be able to cut and paste links showing dumbasses being dumbasses.
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All true. Case in point, the city of Minneapolis is struggling to address the diversity in their police force after an incident involving 2 off duty officers. Seems they were on vacation and got into an argument with some Black citizens--an argument that involved racial slurs. So those 2 idiots not only besmirched the reputation of the entire department, they drew attention to the fact that the department's demography didn't reflect the city they served.

Unfortunately, they are having a hard time getting more minority recruits into the academy. Why is that? I think there are 2 big issues at play. First, the increase in distrust is making it harder for a minority kid to cross over and apply to the academy. Second, the recruiting process itself is weeding them out. It seems they are looking hard at the first issue, but no one is talking much about the second, imo.

Minneapolis police struggle to hire diverse force | Star Tribune
 
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SamRebel35 said:
15-Year-Old Convicted Of Domestic Terrorism For "Swatting" Prank On Another Gamer

Thoughts? Sentence too harsh? Do we need a higher level of threat verification before enlisting a Swat response? This seems like it could be another no knock debate.
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Too harsh? No. I don't agree with the "domestic terrorism" charge, but if someone calls in something like this and it turns out to be a prank, they should pay the price both in legal charges and reimbursement of whatever the cost of putting that team in the field.

There should be more of a verification before sending in the emergency teams though, I agree with that.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Too harsh? No. I don't agree with the "domestic terrorism" charge, but if someone calls in something like this and it turns out to be a prank, they should pay the price both in legal charges and reimbursement of whatever the cost of putting that team in the field.

There should be more of a verification before sending in the emergency teams though, I agree with that.
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He got 25 years and he is 15. That seems quite high. Not saying he shouldn't do some time, but basically a life sentence? Yikes.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
He got 25 years and he is 15. That seems quite high. Not saying he shouldn't do some time, but basically a life sentence? Yikes.
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I'll put it another way...

What are the chances of this team going in hyped up over a call? A lot of you folks think they already operate on a hair trigger anyway so this kind of thing can cause someone to lose their life.

Or too many false calls and the tactical team gets lackadaisical and/or a couple of patrolmen sent to investigate get capped by a for real bad guy.

25 years might seem a bit harsh, but I'd be willing to bet it puts the message out to put a kybosh on calling stupid stuff like this in.
 
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tim said:
Good points, but its much simpler. There have always been cops who make poor decisions and there always will be. No amount of training, vetting, or guessing will ever change the fact. Just be happy knowing you will always be able to cut and paste links showing dumbasses being dumbasses.
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Dumbasses who work private security don't kill people very often. Let alone innocent people.
 
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I just read a bunch about the first federal drug raid in the early 70s (in Humbolt CA). It was a few short weeks after the first task force was made. Somehow the event didn't make anybody rethink the war on drugs.

- a shoddy investigation led agents to conclude some harmless hippy had a PCP lab
- they invited the media to the raid, but not medical professionals
- they arrived on site via helicopter and failed to identify themselves as officers
- because one of the agents allegedly tripped, another officer thought they had been fired on
- he kicked in the door (they did not have a no-knock warrant) and shot the unarmed homeowner in the back as he fled the scene
- minutes after the shooting, the homeowner's girlfriend was informed they were law enforcement (they looked like hippies themselves, cause they were normally undercover)
- no PCP lab was found
- homeowner died
- a few weeks after the raid, a PCP lab was obviously planted on the property, but it did not fool the county attorney
- county attorney tried to prosecute shooting officer, but they made it a federal case and let him off

The crazy thing is a local operation had shot an unarmed innocent in the same county just a year or so earlier.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Question would be...

Is this a fact or just something that doesn't hit the news that often?
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That's an honest question that should be answered, but my question is why would it not be on the news?

If they are killing people when it's an overuse of force, they're even bigger dumbasses than cops, because private security isn't getting off the hook for that. That's one reason I'd be very surprised to find out there is similar behavior.
 
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n_huffhines said:
That's an honest question that should be answered, but my question is why would it not be on the news?

If they are killing people when it's an overuse of force, they're even bigger dumbasses than cops, because private security isn't getting off the hook for that. That's one reason I'd be very surprised to find out there is similar behavior.
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You know the media. They love bad cop stories.

There are a lot more restrictions on private armed security as opposed to LE so that could be a difference.
 
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