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tim said:
Not really, I'm always the one who looks at these stories with an open mind. You on the other hand will make a decision with limited information.
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If by open mind, you mean you're vastly more open to police brutality than most everyone else here, then I agree. :eek:k:
 
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tim said:
Did you read the article? I think you're the one eager to jump to conclusions. The punches were not haymakers they were punches to sensitve areas meant to cause a combative person to comply without wrenching an arm and breaking bones. You and people like you are so predictable. Apparently you've never been in a real altercation because if you had you would know that those punches were NOT how you try to bludgeon someone.
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I don't want punches in this situation, period. I didn't say anything about bludgeoning, and I did read the article. Guess I'm not that predictable...
 
#1,730
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tim said:
Not sure I saw anything wrong here. The punches are meant to force compliance. In this case he was obviously not putting his hands behind his back. Life is brutal and I ask. What would you propose in this situation?
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You've very clearly confirmed the egotistical, weak minded attitude of way too many LEO's.
 
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He ignored the cops. He was tased twice. Not sure what else could've been done. It appears there were way too many efforts handle it another way to begin with.
 
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govols/cc said:
He ignored the cops. He was tased twice. Not sure what else could've been done. It appears there were way too many efforts handle it another way to begin with.
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You don't think a squad of cops could subdue an unarmed drunk sitting on the floor without brutalizing him?
 
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tim said:
Lol. Im from back in the day. This is not anything like what he would have received "back in the day"... Training and techniques dont include chokes and a stick up side his head.
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Could be a difference between military police and off base police, they rarely hit anyone, the night stick was used as part of the arm lock. No choking either.
 
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volmanbill said:
You don't think a squad of cops could subdue an unarmed drunk sitting on the floor without brutalizing him?
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First you have to catch him, he fell out of a truck twice before he ran back into the store. Maybe the officers were carrying too much stuff on their belts and they couldn't run very well.
 
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YorkVol said:
Could be a difference between military police and off base police, they rarely hit anyone, the night stick was used as part of the arm lock. No choking either.
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Most cops on base don't have to deal with that for the most part. However, it does happen and a little more frequently than it used to.

Key to that whole arm bar thing with a baton is getting it into position to begin with. Looks easy in training, not as easy in application.
 
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Grand Vol said:
You think your average drunk will walk away from two rounds of a Taser?

Hint, the answer is no.
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He was disoriented sitting on the ground while they surrounded him posing with the tazers. Stop posing, roll him over and cuff him. Beating his ass after he's in that position is nothing but retribution because the cop was pissed.
 
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volmanbill said:
You don't think a squad of cops could subdue an unarmed drunk sitting on the floor without brutalizing him?
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A squad? I don't think a squad was there. The dude was 6'7" & jacked up on something. There's a ton of people around. The guy runs all over the place. He jumps in back of a random guy's truck. He reaches for the officer's knife. He gets tased twice. After that I would say do whatever it takes.
 
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volmanbill said:
He was disoriented sitting on the ground while they surrounded him posing with the tazers. Stop posing, roll him over and cuff him. Beating his ass after he's in that position is nothing but retribution because the cop was pissed.
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Okay...
 
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Grand Vol said:
So what alternative less than lethal force measures should the police have used?
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As someone else pointed out, restraints should be sufficient. In college I worked in supervised living centers with clients twice as big as me, but when they acted out we did alright. If we threw a punch we were fired. Why? Because we served them. It was our job to deal with unreasonable people without hurting them. It got hairy, too. I had a knife thrown at me. I was bitten, etc. You bite a cop and he might put you in the ER and he'll keep his job.

To protect and to serve. They are public servants, officers of the peace, etc. We hold college boys working side jobs to higher standards than the police. There's something wrong with that.
 
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n_huffhines said:
As someone else pointed out, restraints should be sufficient. In college I worked in supervised living centers with clients twice as big as me, but when they acted out we did alright. If we threw a punch we were fired. Why? Because we served them. It was our job to deal with unreasonable people without hurting them. It got hairy, too. I had a knife thrown at me. I was bitten, etc. You bite a cop and he might put you in the ER and he'll keep his job.

To protect and to serve. They are public servants, officers of the peace, etc. We hold college boys working side jobs to higher standards than the police. There's something wrong with that.
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And if the subject is being resistive?
 
#1,747
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n_huffhines said:
As someone else pointed out, restraints should be sufficient. In college I worked in supervised living centers with clients twice as big as me, but when they acted out we did alright. If we threw a punch we were fired. Why? Because we served them. It was our job to deal with unreasonable people without hurting them. It got hairy, too. I had a knife thrown at me. I was bitten, etc. You bite a cop and he might put you in the ER and he'll keep his job.

To protect and to serve. They are public servants, officers of the peace, etc. We hold college boys working side jobs to higher standards than the police. There's something wrong with that.
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You weren't held to a higher standard they were telling you that you were very dispensable.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Why is your horse lying on it's side.

Or why are you?
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ARKOMA- we do things different here. The mare in the pic tried to bite me me after I took the pic. Popped her in the nose. She didn't listen.


They love it when I'm out and about with them. They act like fools. Even screwed up my new truck. (Damn near shot that one).
 
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volmanbill said:
You've very clearly confirmed the egotistical, weak minded attitude of way too many LEO's.
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No, I live in the real world where crap happens and dimwits like you judge people for doing what has to be done right then. Thanks though, I kinda do think I'm important.
 
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