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Rasputin_Vol said:
Let me ask, is going after people going 15 miles over the limit worth these occasional chases and putting civilians and officers lives at risk?

I mean, in the grander scheme of things, is society being scourged by speeding drivers or by rapists, murderers and molesters? Pulling over people going 40 in a 25 or going 90 in a 75 for that matter isn't exactly heavenly work. Spare me any replies regarding safety and children. Other countries are not as aggressive about traffic as we are here because we primarily use traffic laws as a way to bring in revenue in this country, yet advertise and sell it as a way to make us safer.
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Why should I waste my time explaining something to you that you will dismiss out of hand anyway?

And you are completely wrong about the other countries being less aggressive about traffic laws. In fact, some are more so.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Shakedowns and bribes in Mexico aside, most countries don't use traffic law violations as a way to generate revenue.
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Would you like to send me the 350 Euro I had to pay in traffic fines while I was in Germany? Oh, and that's when the Euro was sitting at around $1.50 - €1

And the remainder of Europe isn't much better.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
No, not at all. How about wait until an actual crime is committed?
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Violating the speed limit is a crime. Just one that normal beat cops have the discretion to wag the naughty finger at offending motorists and say "don't do it again."

I'll break this down for you. Had the woman in the video been compliant and handed over the requested documents, and been nice...and informed said officer her husband was working with the Charleston PD as an investigative assistant, she very likely would have been on her way with a "okay, just slow down next time and have a nice day."

Professional courtesy extends to the families of cops as long as they don't get out of line. And she was way, way, way out of line.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Too many laws or too many criminals...

All this started because she was (allegedly) going 39 in a 25. Really?

At the end, was it really worth it for the cops or the drivers?
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it wasn't the speeding, it was the failure to provide her license (etc) and failure to get out of the vehicle

I have no issue with the cops reactions,

it's really simple, do what the officer ask
 
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Grand Vol said:
Violating the speed limit is a crime. Just one that normal beat cops have the discretion to wag the naughty finger at offending motorists and say "don't do it again."

I'll break this down for you. Had the woman in the video been compliant and handed over the requested documents, and been nice...and informed said officer her husband was working with the Charleston PD as an investigative assistant, she very likely would have been on her way with a "okay, just slow down next time and have a nice day."

Professional courtesy extends to the families of cops as long as they don't get out of line. And she was way, way, way out of line.
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So you're saying cops and their families are afforded special favors? Who knew....

Call me old fashioned, but a crime to me is against a person or property.
 
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vol_in_ar said:
it wasn't the speeding, it was the failure to provide her license (etc) and failure to get out of the vehicle

I have no issue with the cops reactions,

it's really simple, do what the officer ask
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OK, in retrospect, was it worth it for the officers and the citizens of Charleston to make this traffic stop?
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
So you're saying cops and their families are afforded special favors? Who knew....

Call me old fashioned, but a crime to me is against a person or property.
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So answer me one question. Do you think her outrage was justified? Or her actions during the traffic stop?

Were the cops out of line here?

ETA: That's actually three questions, but who's counting.
 
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Grand Vol said:
So answer me one question. Do you think her outrage was justified? Or her actions during the traffic stop?

Were the cops out of line here?

ETA: That's actually three questions, but who's counting.
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1. Probably not justified.
2. Probably not justified.
3. Probably not justified.

We need to re-train cops to not be looking for speeders and jaywalkers and more focused on locking up killers, rapists and muggers.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
1. Probably not justified.
2. Probably not justified.
3. Probably not justified.

We need to re-train cops to not be looking for speeders and jaywalkers and more focused on locking up killers, rapists and muggers.
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Yeah, because everyone wearing a badge is trained in investigative techniques...
 
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People are tired of getting pushed around and backed into a corner. The police don't realize this, apparently, but they are becoming more of an intrusion into our lives than a benefit in most cases when they pull nit-picky stunts like pulling over jaywalkers and drivers going 40 mph. I think we have reached "peak laws" in regards to the number of laws that need to be enforced in this country before you start to see more push back from the people. These clowns (the driver and cops alike) turned a simple pullover into a high speed chase and ended with guns drawn... all the while speeding down this same street that was marked at 25 mph limit. How many lives were put in jeopardy to get this one traffic violator off the streets?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
OK, in retrospect, was it worth it for the officers and the citizens of Charleston to make this traffic stop?
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her husband was an employee of the police dept
why would she act like that

I can agree on traffic and generating revenue
but I don't think police are too aggressive on traffic stops

I speed everyday, and in 30+ years of driving have been stopped 3-4 times
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
People are tired of getting pushed around and backed into a corner. The police don't realize this, apparently, but they are becoming more of an intrusion into our lives than a benefit in most cases when they pull nit-picky stunts like pulling over jaywalkers and drivers going 40 mph. I think we have reached "peak laws" in regards to the number of laws that need to be enforced in this country before you start to see more push back from the people. These clowns (the driver and cops alike) turned a simple pullover into a high speed chase and ended with guns drawn... all the while speeding down this same street that was marked at 25 mph limit. How many lives were put in jeopardy to get this one traffic violator off the streets?
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why are you blaming the police, instead of the lady that didn't comply

Police are hired to do a job
 
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