To Protect and to Serve II

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hndog609 said:
Look EV, as stated previously if you want to have a conversation about "following orders" it wouldn't be the first time it's come up in this thread. Your devaluation of the origin of there, no really, seriously, ever being a confiscation at all is bewildering. Has there ever been an order followed without an order given? AT BEST you might be able to eke out an observation that comes across as "The confiscation orders issued by Democratic leadership wasn't universally rejected outright by some that might vote Republican.". That sound like a strong stance to you? When police chief Eddie Compass announced

"No one will be able to be armed. Guns will be taken. Only law enforcement will be allowed to have guns."

who do you really think is carrying the greater onus of culpability here? (btw Compass resigned 4 days after the successful injunction placed against the legality of the confiscations)

In happier news this mess brought about the Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act.
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Still, it wasn't only Democrats confiscating guns. Republicans played their part, which is the point.
 
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EasternVol said:
It was law enforcement and not politicians confiscating the guns. LEO's tend to be Republicans.
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I’ll put the caveat in there that there is a certain number of those that are republicans that are Leo’s. Pinning that down with way is almost impossible.
For the most part it was a city council, mayor, police chief and dog catcher that were democrats.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That's a bit vague. And there are stand your ground laws out there.
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Cops get protection if its a good shoot or a bad shoot.
civilians don't get protection if its a bad shoot.

in a bad shoot, the cops may "just" get protection from the criminal side of things, the city/jurisdiction pays any fine. the cop at worst, typically gets fired, and can't get a job as cop. A civilian goes to jail. a civilian pays any civil fees.

and just talking about pure split second decisions, not a cop executing someone.

kinda like you are worried about a civilian responding to a mass shooting and hitting another innocent person. but I have yet to see you express any concern about cops returning fire in the same situation despite the same level of risk.
 
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I didn’t know where else to put this…… but as the father of four daughters, I don’t think this man should be charged with anything
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Arkansas father arrested after allegedly killing man he found with his missing 14-year-old daughter

An Arkansas father was arrested after he allegedly shot and killed a man who he found in a vehicle with his missing 14-year-old daughter, according to the sheriff's office.
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. "This man was Chief of police in Indiana and resource officer, giving us a better idea of why the Lonoke county courts have been protecting him and going after my husband."
 
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hog88 said:
IDK if you can sue the US Marshal service or how much you can sue them for but I hope this woman gets enough to set her whole family up for life. Even if she was the right woman they were looking for WTF would they need 6 Marshals to arrest a 70 year old woman for a parole violation from 1999?

New police body cam video shows false arrest in wild case of mistaken identity
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I have actually been the victim of mistaken identity before. Deputy pulled his pistol on me in a convenience store, and I asked "What the hell are you doing???!!" The barrel of a .40 caliber is much larger than you think when you are looking right down it BTW. I was cuffed and other officers showed up. They were standing around just chatting to one another with me standing there in hand cuffs. Finally after me continually asking them what this was about, they asked me what I was driving. I nodded towards my F150. They asked again what I was driving, and again I nodded towards the truck. They still stood there talking, they didn't actually believe that was my truck. I finally got frustrated and just started walking to the door and shouldered my way through it, they followed. I stood beside my truck and said "This is my truck". I was asked if the keys were in my pocket, and I said yes. They fished them out and tried them and said; "Well, they work!" I said; "Yes, because this is my truck!" They uncuffed me and told me that someone with a rolling meth lab had gotten rear ended near by, and that one of them was wearing a camouflage jacket (I had one on at the time) when they fled. Keep in mind that this was in November during deer season. They apologized, and went in the store and did the same. I was not a happy camper. Lots of people have camo on in November. Good grief.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
I have a civic like this, mines a manual coupe with a sunroof though. What exactly was going on here? I guess they were driving around with Christmas lights lit all over their car?
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yeah. and thats the level of protection we need. not the guys zipping in and out of lanes. not the guys tailgating, or brake checking people. Not any of the other actual dangerous actions that drivers do daily. no no no, we have to stop the Christmas lights. thats what will keep people safe.

I would agree its dangerous if it actually produced enough light to blind people, but this is far less dangerous than some of the LED lights you could perform surgery under on the road.
 
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Multiple officers can't deal with a disabled teen with a knife behind a chain link fence without shooting him 9x. Start shooting immediately as they arrive on scene. Gimme a fkn break.

www.fox10phoenix.com

Community outraged after video shows Idaho police shoot disabled teen 9 times

An Idaho town is reeling after officers opened fire on a nonverbal, disabled teen just seconds after exiting their patrol cars, leaving him in critical condition.
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n_huffhines said:
Multiple officers can't deal with a disabled teen with a knife behind a chain link fence without shooting him 9x. Start shooting immediately as they arrive on scene. Gimme a fkn break.

www.fox10phoenix.com

Community outraged after video shows Idaho police shoot disabled teen 9 times

An Idaho town is reeling after officers opened fire on a nonverbal, disabled teen just seconds after exiting their patrol cars, leaving him in critical condition.
www.fox10phoenix.com www.fox10phoenix.com
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This sounds like a liberal reviewing the movie Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

“Police officers shoot autistic man holding chainsaw”
 
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n_huffhines said:
Multiple officers can't deal with a disabled teen with a knife behind a chain link fence without shooting him 9x. Start shooting immediately as they arrive on scene. Gimme a fkn break.

www.fox10phoenix.com

Community outraged after video shows Idaho police shoot disabled teen 9 times

An Idaho town is reeling after officers opened fire on a nonverbal, disabled teen just seconds after exiting their patrol cars, leaving him in critical condition.
www.fox10phoenix.com www.fox10phoenix.com
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Hmm, couldn’t try the taser first? Just went straight to the guns? WTH?
 
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Such disrespect for the dead. Wow.

This profession, for some reason, attracts a disproportionate number of psychopaths. For such an important job that can ruin lives, it would seem that psychological evaluations should be performed before being hired. This won’t ever happen though because that would weed out too many candidates.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Multiple officers can't deal with a disabled teen with a knife behind a chain link fence without shooting him 9x. Start shooting immediately as they arrive on scene. Gimme a fkn break.

www.fox10phoenix.com

Community outraged after video shows Idaho police shoot disabled teen 9 times

An Idaho town is reeling after officers opened fire on a nonverbal, disabled teen just seconds after exiting their patrol cars, leaving him in critical condition.
www.fox10phoenix.com www.fox10phoenix.com
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video cuts out before the shooting actually starts but in the last moments he is clearly charging at them. yeah there is a 4'-0" chain link fence in the way, but it seems like self defense to me.

definitely regrettable, and they probably "shouldn't" have shot, but I find it hard to place too much blame here on the cops.
 
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