To Protect and to Serve II

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I do not believe training is solely to blame. A person’s mental stability and character are variables that training, in most cases, can’t overcome. People are who they are, and unwarranted power entrusted to a “Fife” is perilously stupid!

We have as much or more of a selection issue than a training issue, IMHO.
 
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Squints said:
I do not believe training is solely to blame. A person’s mental stability and character are variables that training, in most cases, can’t overcome. People are who they are, and unwarranted power entrusted to a “Fife” is perilously stupid!

We have as much or more of a selection issue than a training issue, IMHO.
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I think there is more to the selection issue as well. I'd dare say the majority of those who pursue law enforcement have good intentions. However, the profession has become marred by the idiot few and it has become a profession seen as undesirable. In essence, the quality of recruits has slipped and it's getting harder to put good candidates into the spots available.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I think there is more to the selection issue as well. I'd dare say the majority of those who pursue law enforcement have good intentions. However, the profession has become marred by the idiot few and it has become a profession seen as undesirable. In essence, the quality of recruits has slipped and it's getting harder to put good candidates into the spots available.
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I agree the majority are good men, it's the other 40% that ruin it for the rest. The problem is it only takes one ass hat to brand the rest as jerks. I was face planted into my trunk when I was 16-17 years old because I didn't pull over fast enough for an unmarked car flashing his lights. I've hated cops ever since.
 
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Septic said:
Are you sure? Because in the NFL thread there's a lot of white dudes who've never had this experience and say that being mad at cops for social injustice is unwarranted.

Surely there anecdotal opinions are more accurate than you first-hand experience, so again - are you sure?
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No mountain of data or first hand experiences will ever convince some people.

Yea. Now that I am older, drive a nice car, and dress in business attire usually it doesn’t happen as much. I can’t tell you how many times I have been pulled over though. With nothing being found of course.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
"I smell weed and I think your friend has a gun..."

First off, reefer shouldn't be illegal and having a gun is a protected right under the 2A, so the assumption should be that everyone has a gun.

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This one was a screw job from the get go, I'm glad the young man kept his wits about him.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I think there is more to the selection issue as well. I'd dare say the majority of those who pursue law enforcement have good intentions. However, the profession has become marred by the idiot few and it has become a profession seen as undesirable. In essence, the quality of recruits has slipped and it's getting harder to put good candidates into the spots available.
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I heard this kid I used to manage at a previous job a few years ago is in the process of becoming a cop. I think he's just a community service officer or whatever that position is as of now. But if he gets a badge and a gun... the state of our PD really must be in the shitter. He wasn't a bad kid, I don't think he has any poor intentions, but to put it bluntly, your dog is smarter. Literally the worst, most incompetent person I've ever had to work with. The type of dumb that really sticks with you throughout life when you recall the dumbest people you ever met. I wouldn't trust him to retrieve my mail, much less trust him in life or death situations.

I hope it doesn't happen but I fear one day I'll hear his name on the news for the wrong reasons.
 
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k-town_king said:
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No mountain of data or first hand experiences will ever convince some people.

Yea. Now that I am older, drive a nice car, and dress in business attire usually it doesn’t happen as much. I can’t tell you how many times I have been pulled over though. With nothing being found of course.
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It’s called looking poor. I got pulled over lots in high school because I drove a **** car and was out past 10pm. You been drinking, where are the drugs, this car is stolen, etc. They just play the odds.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
It’s called looking poor. I got pulled over lots in high school because I drove a **** car and was out past 10pm. You been drinking, where are the drugs, this car is stolen, etc. They just play the odds.
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Well that is a ****** way of policing if you ask me. Why just pull over people that look poor? Really? This is ok with you?
 
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Good on the chief for doing the right thing. I'm sure it was an unpopular choice.

Oliver was responding to a call about underaged drinking at the party. He initially defended the shooting by saying that the car in which Edwards sat was backing up "in an aggressive manner" toward him and his partner. Police Chief Jonathan Haber would later publicly contradict Oliver, saying that the car was actually driving forward.
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In an Uncommon Development, the Texas Cop Who Shot Jordan Edwards Is Found Guilty of Murder
 
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