To Protect and to Serve II

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True story.
Well done by the police officer.

today I went to the permit office down town and walked by as a couple of people (8-12) were yelling at a police officer who was largely ignoring them. Finally a younger guy (black guy) says to the officer “ how do you sleep at night, Brother?!?!” The officer (black cop) answered in a voice that sounded like he was talking to a friend. “Oh, I have recently gotten a purple mattress. That thing is awesome. It was a little pricey but worth it” then looks away. The angry mob (some laughter) started moving on.

And that’s how you handle a crowd that’s angry without having to crack skulls.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
True story.
Well done by the police officer.

today I went to the permit office down town and walked by as a couple of people (8-12) were yelling at a police officer who was largely ignoring them. Finally a younger guy (black guy) says to the officer “ how do you sleep at night, Brother?!?!” The officer (black cop) answered in a voice that sounded like he was talking to a friend. “Oh, I have recently gotten a purple mattress. That thing is awesome. It was a little pricey but worth it” then looks away. The angry mob (some laughter) started moving on.

And that’s how you handle a crowd that’s angry without having to crack skulls.
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Happens everyday, all the time. "Skull cracking", however, doesn't.
 
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Tyler Durden said:
Officer on video saying he'll 'choke you out' before man dies is charged with manslaughter
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I don’t think this is bad as the media is portraying it. Choke holds don’t usually kill people and are a great way to take control of a situation without hurting someone. I’ve got a martial arts background, and I’ve used them before and know how effective they can be. The man that died was hopped up on meth and that was a deadly combination. One of the biggest mistakes government can make will be outlawing the use of submission holds and choke holds by police. Those are probably the safest ways for them to detain an uncooperative person in most situations.
 
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davethevol said:
I don’t think this is bad as the media is portraying it. Choke holds don’t usually kill people and are a great way to take control of a situation without hurting someone. I’ve got a martial arts background, and I’ve used them before and know how effective they can be. The man that died was hopped up on meth and that was a deadly combination. One of the biggest mistakes government can make will be outlawing the use of submission holds and choke holds by police. Those are probably the safest ways for them to detain an uncooperative person in most situations.
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Remember, the simple fact that probably more than 95% of Americans have never in their lives been in a real ugly situation or violent altercation, where, not just real harm and life long affects happen, but, death.

They think a black eye is serious. They've never witnessed or been a part of hearing bones breaking, grown men screeching in utter pain like a wounded animal, let alone privy to real violence.

And this also goes to civility. If you have ever hung around groups of trained fighters there is a respect there and there never is a real issue of a fight (if it does the dude has ego and issues and normally will not be around long enough, because he already will have had his arse handed to him, and then there are that 0.01% who are just mean and tough and don't give a s*** and actually do look for and enjoy hurting people and there ain't much to do with those guys because they're insane and you will never win unless you put them in a wheel chair or kill them).

Respect. Both know the other guy can handle himself, neither is afraid of getting hurt, or dying. Thus, life moves smoother. If more people were like this and learned this growing up, general civil decency and respect would be more prevalent, and people would mind their manners and words, and not be so quick to run their mouths and have attitudes. Nothing is more centering and giving of perspective than having your arse seriously handed to you.
 
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Mick said:
Don't they teach the police to vocalize "stop resisting" while they're using excessive force anymore?
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Hard to not want to resist when you're in utter pain and being agitated by the voice causing the pain, right?

Watching enough of COPS and LivePD should show when it works and when it doesn't, and usually is visible in the general attitude and demeanor of the officer involved.
 
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Which leads to the next point, don't get caught.

The one thing you see on COPS and LivePD, idiots just asking to get caught. Seriously, you gonna be an idiot and do idiot things, think just a little bit. It's too funny how many of these "criminals" are their own worst enemy.
 
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Mick said:
Don't they teach the police to vocalize "stop resisting" while they're using excessive force anymore?
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Good question, I've noticed videos of 8 cops on top of a guy who's cuffed and they are still screaming stop resisting. Or the police dog chewing on a leg and they are telling him to not move. Humans seek to remove the source of pain.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
Good question, I've noticed videos of 8 cops on top of a guy who's cuffed and they are still screaming stop resisting. Or the police dog chewing on a leg and they are telling him to not move. Humans seek to remove the source of pain.
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stop-resisting
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Every other day is too often. Once a year is too often. One cover up by the police out of ten is too many.
Police the police with an outside agency and hold them to the same laws and standards as everyone else isn’t too much to ask
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Hold them to higher standards than everyone else, that's what they are supposed to be doing.

I'm all for that but your post that I responded to made it look like it was anomaly that a police officer could conduct him/herself that way without resorting to "skull cracking." The police "skull cracking" is the anomaly and I would venture that with this last bout of rioting, that there have been more police officers on the receiving end of "skull cracking" than citizens.

  • Albany, NY – police officer hit by a brick on May 30; treated and released
  • Asbury Park, NJ – police officer hit by a rock on June 1; condition unknown
  • Atlanta, GA – police officer Maximilian Brewer struck by an ATV on May 30; recovering from surgery
  • Boston, MA – seven officers suffered unspecified injuries; conditions unknown
  • Brockton, MA – state trooper and multiple police officers hit by bottles and rocks on June 2; conditions unknown
  • Buffalo, NY – Buffalo officer and two state troopers struck by vehicles on June 1, one of those troopers run over and suffered serious injuries; conditions unknown
  • Champaign, IL – multiple officers suffered unspecified minor injuries on May 31
  • Columbia, SC – three Richland County Sheriff’s deputies and 12 Columbia officers suffered unspecified minor injuries on May 30
  • Chicago – 132 officers suffered unspecified injuries in multiple incidents over the weekend through Monday, June 1. One officer was seriously injured with broken bones on May 30.
  • Davenport, IA – undercover officer in unmarked vehicle shot in ambush on June 1; condition unknown
  • Denver, CO – three officers struck by a vehicle in a hit-and-run incident on May 30; two have been released from the hospital, condition of the third unknown
  • Harrisburg, PA – two Pennsylvania Capitol Police officers suffered unspecified minor injuries on May 30
  • Huntsville, AL – one officer suffered a minor injury to his head by a thrown object on June 3
  • Las Vegas, NV – Las Vegas Police officer Shay Mikalonis was shot in the head during a protest on June 1; currently on life support in critical condition. Twelve other officers injured on May 29; conditions unknown
  • Los Angeles, CA – 27 Los Angeles police officers injured in multiple incidents, one suffering a fractured skull
  • New York City, NY – at least 33 officers injured in multiple incidents; conditions unknown. One officer struck by a vehicle in intentional hit-and-run; hospitalized in stable condition. One officer stabbed in the neck and two others shot in ambush; conditions unknown
  • Oakdale, CA – two officers suffered unspecified minor injuries breaking up a fight between protesters and counterprotesters
  • Oak Lawn, IL – three officers suffered unspecified minor injuries on June 1
  • Oakland, CA – End of Watch May 29 – Federal law enforcement officer David Patrick Underwood was shot and killed in a drive-by ambush outside the Ronald V. Dellums Federal Building where he and another officer were providing security. The other officer was also wounded and is in critical condition.
  • Philadelphia, PA – at least 13 officers suffered unspecified minor injuries in multiple incidents
  • Pittsburgh, PA – nine officers suffered unspecified minor injuries from thrown objects on June 1; treated and released
  • Prince William County, VA – four county officers hit by rocks and other objects in the overnight period of May 30-31; one hospitalized. Virginia State Police reported 10 troopers injured.
  • Providence, RI – eight to ten officers were hit by bricks on June 2; only minor injuries reported
  • Richmond, VA – two Capitol police officers hit by baseball bat and beer bottle on May 30; recovering. Two officers struck during exchange of gunfire with rioter
  • Sacramento, CA – seven officers sustained minor injuries when hit by objects on May 29
  • Salt Lake City, UT – 21 officers injured on May 30, including one hit in the head with a baseball bat; all treated and released
  • San Antonio, TX – three officers hit by thrown bricks and bottles; conditions unknown
  • San Jose, CA – multiple officers struck by rocks and bottles on May 29; one officer hospitalized with non-life-threatening injuries
  • Santa Ana, CA – two officers hit in the head by flying objects, possibly fireworks, on May31; both hospitalized
  • St. Louis, MO – End of Watch June 2 – Retired police Captain David Dorn was killed by a gunshot fired by a looter, as he was checking on a store owned by a friend. Four other officers were shot on the same day when an unknown shooter took random shots at a police line; wounds were not considered life-threatening.
  • Washington, D.C. – approximately 50 agents and 11 police officers injured by bricks, bottles and Molotov cocktails on May 31. Most injuries minor, but one police officer will require surgery for broken leg.
  • Wichita, KS – three officers hit by rocks, bottles and cinder blocks; treated and released
 
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