To Protect and to Serve II

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InVOLuntary said:
Laws are absolutely a deterrent. Do you think they'd be more murders if it wasn't against the law? What about bank robbery? Do you think there would be more robberies is it wasn't against the law? I can't believe we're even having this conversation.
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You are conflating the utility of laws with the absence of laws. To me the punishment for murder is punitive. Clearly it’s not much of a deterrent to the determined, 15k people murder someone in this country every year. But the overwhelming majority of our society does not murder. That tells me they don’t need a law to deter them from doing it.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
You are conflating the utility of laws with the absence of laws. To me the punishment for murder is punitive. Clearly it’s not much of a deterrent to the determined, 15k people murder someone in this country every year. But the overwhelming majority of our society does not murder. That tells me they don’t need a law to deter them from doing it.
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I'm not so sure. I tend to agree laws or the lack of laws may not be as much of a deterrent as with theft, DUI, and other non/less-violent crimes. I do think laws are a deterrent for the most part.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Cowardly trash.

Dog shot, killed at public park by Clay County Sheriff’s Officer
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More than likely the dog didnt need to be shot. That being said, the lady with the dog should have had him on a leash. I don’t know how many times I’ve been walking my dogs on leashes and some idiot has an unleashed dog that comes running up trying to instigate something. That’s a potential for a fight with the dogs. Idiot owners always assume their dog won’t fight or start a fight with less friendly dogs.
 
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davethevol said:
More than likely the dog didnt need to be shot. That being said, the lady with the dog should have had him on a leash. I don’t know how many times I’ve been walking my dogs on leashes and some idiot has an unleashed dog that comes running up trying to instigate something. That’s a potential for a fight with the dogs. Idiot owners always assume their dog won’t fight or start a fight with less friendly dogs.
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Or maybe this supposed trained and skilled “law enforcement officer” stays calm and doesn’t panic in an everyday situation that millions of common people encounter everyday. It’s that “law enforcement officers” are held to a higher standard
 
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MOOOOONEY said:
Or maybe this supposed trained and skilled “law enforcement officer” stays calm and doesn’t panic in an everyday situation that millions of common people encounter everyday. It’s that “law enforcement officers” are held to a higher standard
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You know what, you make a good point. People encounter dogs all of the time and you hardly ever hear of civilians reacting in the manner that some of these cops do.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You know what, you make a good point. People encounter dogs all of the time and you hardly ever hear of civilians reacting in the manner that some of these cops do.
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Well if you did you’d go to jail.

That video I posted of a Chattanooga cop, the guy is walking back into his house saying he doesn’t have to talk. The cop walks into the front yard, there is a dog clearly chained up beside the porch. He purposefully walks to the very edge of the dog’s range and says I’ll shoot your f***kin dog if he comes any closer. lolwut? The dog is chained up. He’s antagonizing the dog and then threatening to kill it. Another case of completely unnecessary escalation. After they tasered the guy and put him in the car the guy who called 911 came up and said that wasn’t the right person. But they took him to jail anyways. Should get a nice check out of it.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
I don’t think DUI laws stop anyone from drinking and driving any more than homicide laws stop murder. There are plenty of stories of people getting their 8th or 10th or 15th DUI. Texting and driving leads to far more accidents and fatalities than DUI, shall we start chucking those people in jail as well?
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It does too..... just not all of them....my cousins drunk uncle Dennis as an example.... trust me you did not want that guy on the road.... we use to give him rides to the grocery store and he would bring beer with him and lean against the shelves drinking inside the store.
 
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Ras..i think i was 11 or 12 when NWA dropped SOC...bought that tape 4 or 5 times bc my mom would throw it away every time she found it. Lol...bet i can still spit nearly every song on that album, except 1 song is more cussing than i do in a year as an adult. Isnt that the album for which the "parental discretion is advised" labels came into existence?
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Ras..i think i was 11 or 12 when NWA dropped SOC...bought that tape 4 or 5 times bc my mom would throw it away every time she found it. Lol...bet i can still spit nearly every song on that album, except 1 song is more cussing than i do in a year as an adult. Isnt that the album for which the "parental discretion is advised" labels came into existence?
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I could Google it, but I thought it was 2 Live Crew's album. But I could very well be wrong on that.
 
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