TO before the field goal

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Lexvol

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To my knowledge, this hasn't been discussed on this board all that much. What do you guys think about the "well timed" TO before Auburn's game winning field goal?

On one hand I think it is brilliant, but there is definitely a "weasel like" component to the strategy. No one seems all that upset, so it seems as though it may be accepted as part of the gamesmanship of the contest now. What say you?
 
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The sports talk crowd around these parts was up in arms about it. I can see the weasel aspect of it but it is within the rules and had it worked it would have added to urban's growing "legend". The man was just trying to win a ballgame................
 
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crimedawg12 said:
The sports talk crowd around these parts was up in arms about it. I can see the weasel aspect of it but it is within the rules and had it worked it would have added to urban's growing "legend". The man was just trying to win a ballgame................
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Agreed. It would be pleasant to do to an opponent, but frustrating to have it done to you. Last I checked the Golden Rule doesn't apply to SEC football.
 
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Fred White had an interesting comment.....he said all kickers do is kick....they should make em no matter how many timeouts are called.
 
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I've heard several kickers say they actually like for the other team to call a timeout. It gives them more time to prepare for the kick. One good example is the Patriots game several years back where the other team called a timout and it gave Vinitieri (sp?) time to clear the snow off his kicking area so he wouldn't have any problem planting his foot before the kick.
 
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It is the timing of the TO in question. I think that Fred White had the right answer. Poetic justice would have occured if the AU kicker had missed the first, and made the second.
 
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I don't mind the time out. But, I do have a bit of a problem with being able to pull a ref to your ear, hold him there, and then call your time out. If you are going to wait until the last second, then you have to risk not being seen when you try to call your timeout.
 
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TennTradition said:
I don't mind the time out. But, I do have a bit of a problem with being able to pull a ref to your ear, hold him there, and then call your time out. If you are going to wait until the last second, then you have to risk not being seen when you try to call your timeout.
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Agreed
 
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Meyer was just doing what a few NFL coaches have done the past couple of weeks.
 
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TennTradition said:
I don't mind the time out. But, I do have a bit of a problem with being able to pull a ref to your ear, hold him there, and then call your time out. If you are going to wait until the last second, then you have to risk not being seen when you try to call your timeout.
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This is where I'm at - it's out of the natural flow of the game. It was a micro-second before the ball was snapped.

Seems to much like a video game where you can hit pause.
 
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TennTradition said:
I don't mind the time out. But, I do have a bit of a problem with being able to pull a ref to your ear, hold him there, and then call your time out. If you are going to wait until the last second, then you have to risk not being seen when you try to call your timeout.
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swamp benefits.
 
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I don't like the rule that allows coaches to call timeouts to begin with. The game is played by 22 men between the lines; the coach is not a participant. Timeouts should have to be called by one of the participants.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I don't like the rule that allows coaches to call timeouts to begin with. The game is played by 22 men between the lines; the coach is not a participant. Timeouts should have to be called by one of the participants.
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without coaches, who would we blame the losses on? your crazy.:eek:lol:
 
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TennTradition said:
I don't mind the time out. But, I do have a bit of a problem with being able to pull a ref to your ear, hold him there, and then call your time out. If you are going to wait until the last second, then you have to risk not being seen when you try to call your timeout.
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very well put
 
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I don't mind holding the ref by you. It is already risky enough to go right before the ball is snapped.
 
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yeah it seems a bit weasellike. as a raider fan was pissed that shanahan did it, but then kiffin did the same to the browns so...

on the other hand, what if the kicker misses the first one? strategy could backfire?
 
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Imagine if this were done when the home team were kicking a game winning field goal. If the whole team starts celebrating because they didn't hear the whistle (because the whole stadium is going nuts) ... and the fans start rushing the field...do you think that the kicker could regain focus enough to kick the second field goal? I think not. The time outs need to be called within the standard play of the game - not in the ear of one ref.
 
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I thought it was weasel-like, but it's not against the rules......I'm just glad he made the second one and stuck it to the weasel....and that was one of the greatest gator chomps I've ever seen.
 
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TennTradition said:
The time outs need to be called within the standard play of the game - not in the ear of one ref.
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This is the fundamental problem with this whole thing. Something yelled by somebody off the field into the ear of a referee who's 20 yards away from the action can determine the outcome of a football game. That sucks.
 
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I have no problem with calling a last-second timeout to get in the kicker's head. The coach has an obligation to try to win the game, within the rules.

What I don't like is that Urban gets to spoon and cuddle with his own personal referee up until he wants to call that timeout.
 
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In competition as fierce as SEC football, you do whatever it takes to win. Sure, it's underhanded; but not illegal. I've got no problem with it.
 
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