To all who are not TT fans...I have a read for you!

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Neat article. It would be better if it had anything to do with being an offensive coordinator. Everyone understands that he can recruit and coach better than Pat Washington.
 
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I think they should let TT call the plays and run the OC spot in the bowl game. What do we have to loose? If he does well, then offer him the position. That's how I feel about it.:rock:
 
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Well I think the idea of the article is look here is a guy who has done extremely well in everything he has done for this school - why not give him a shot.

I agree. He should be the OC for the bowl game.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Well I think the idea of the article is look here is a guy who has done extremely well in everything he has done for this school - why not give him a shot.

I agree. He should be the OC for the bowl game.
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That exact same line of thinking led to Randy Sanders getting his shot to OC the National Championship. We won the game. Everyone's happy. Six years later our offense is in shambles. The fans treat Sanders like trash even though he'd been with the UT program for 20 years. They'd do the same thing to Taylor if he were to fail.
 
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why not?

I mean does it really matter if we lose another meaningless bowl game?

The bigger issue here about giving the job to TT, is that it will be a bigger disaster than Sanders. Sanders was never given the reigns, and TT will be on an even shorter leash. If we're going this route, just give the job to Fulmer. Hire a qb coach and be done with it.
 
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kptvol said:
That exact same line of thinking led to Randy Sanders getting his shot to OC the National Championship. We won the game. Everyone's happy. Six years later our offense is in shambles. The fans treat Sanders like trash even though he'd been with the UT program for 20 years. They'd do the same thing to Taylor if he were to fail.
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I dont think so. I think UT fans are sorry for how they treated Sanders after seeing what he has done at UK. It is pretty clear that he was a scape goat. You cant NOT give TT the job b/c of what happened with RS. I mean what if TT is a success at OC - then we are going to have talks of him being a replacement for CPF.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
I dont think so. I think UT fans are sorry for how they treated Sanders after seeing what he has done at UK. It is pretty clear that he was a scape goat. You cant NOT give TT the job b/c of what happened with RS. I mean what if TT is a success at OC - then we are going to have talks of him being a replacement for CPF.
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that's a GIGANTIC if.
 
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Trooper just seems to have as many positive qualities as any of the other possible coordinators, and he happens to be an outstanding recruiter and man. He also is already on our staff and has positive relationships with the players. There is no reason not to give him a shot if we do not have some other high profile guy we are itching to give the job to, and with Phil talking about waiting to coaches meetings to have chats with people I don't think he has any particular name in mind. I vote we just give him a shot. If it doesn't work Phil is probably done and all the negative people on this board will finally get the big house cleaning they've been praying for.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
I dont think so. I think UT fans are sorry for how they treated Sanders after seeing what he has done at UK. It is pretty clear that he was a scape goat. You cant NOT give TT the job b/c of what happened with RS. I mean what if TT is a success at OC - then we are going to have talks of him being a replacement for CPF.
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In my opinion the most realistic way for Trooper to become UT's offensive coordinator is to head to Baylor and crank out good offenses for several years. If he does that, the next time the OC job opens up, he'll be remembered because of his ties to UT.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
I dont think so. I think UT fans are sorry for how they treated Sanders after seeing what he has done at UK. It is pretty clear that he was a scape goat. You cant NOT give TT the job b/c of what happened with RS. I mean what if TT is a success at OC - then we are going to have talks of him being a replacement for CPF.
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Randy has done nothing at Kentucky but coach Andre Woodson.

He's NOT the OC!
 
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I don't understand...I thought most folks at least were unhappy with the status quo...this MIGHT be an opportunity to fix what is wrong...Trooper coached Foster, he fumbles, Trooper coached Austin Rogers, he drops as many as he catches, Lucas Taylor may be just that good, Trooper seems to try very hard to fire up the, um, troops, but they don't respond. Our Offensive line gave up 4,or 5 sacks in a season, why aren't we worried about keeping Adkins! Finally, he can relate in recruiting...I think there are a lot of guys in assistant positions that can do that, more so I think we could get a proven OC with a good recruiting reputation, that will bring along his best and brightest...The big loss from this aspect is the QB situation which Cut brought all the beef to the table.
 
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vol66 said:
I don't understand...I thought most folks at least were unhappy with the status quo...this MIGHT be an opportunity to fix what is wrong...Trooper coached Foster, he fumbles, Trooper coached Austin Rogers, he drops as many as he catches
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You are putting entirely too much blame on a position coach and focusing on the negative. The only fumble lost by Foster this year that had any meaning whatsoever was the one at Florida. All backs fumble, some more than others but you cant use that against TT any more than you can credit him when Foster breaks a tackle or jukes.

And as far as Rogers goes..I dont recall any of the other receivers having the dropsies so maybe....just maybe it was...Rogers' fault himself? Nah, couldnt be.:ermm:
 
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KT, I brought up those two players for their A'hem...outspokeness yesterday on Troops behalf...many of the recievers have under performed, Foster and Hardesty haven't lived up to the billing and none of the recievers have sans, Lucas Taylor. The Tight Ends and Offensive Line seem to grade out higher, maybe I'm missing something. I just don't think Troop is ready for a promotion at UT, maybe at Baylor.
 
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Or maybe there is this thing called talent.

What about all the good players he has coached who, imo, stand out more than the bad. Cedric Houston, Gerald Riggs, Robert Meachem...and then these guys-

In 2001, Taylor coached the nation’s top receiving trio of Adrian Burnette, Kerwin Cook, and Terrell Harris while at Tulane and sent them and one other receiver to the NFL.
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Yeah, I was curious today and read the Bio too...I think Taylor is a decent young coach with a lot of enthusiasm, but I don't think he's the right guy at this time for the OC position...He has no experience at managing a game, If he does well at Baylor he won't be there long and I know deep down he won't hold any ill will towards CF for letting him go to Baylor.
 
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kptvol said:
That exact same line of thinking led to Randy Sanders getting his shot to OC the National Championship. We won the game. Everyone's happy. Six years later our offense is in shambles. The fans treat Sanders like trash even though he'd been with the UT program for 20 years. They'd do the same thing to Taylor if he were to fail.
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apples and oranges....again....you really don't get it do you??
 
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volfanbill said:
why not?

I mean does it really matter if we lose another meaningless bowl game?

The bigger issue here about giving the job to TT, is that it will be a bigger disaster than Sanders. Sanders was never given the reigns, and TT will be on an even shorter leash. If we're going this route, just give the job to Fulmer. Hire a qb coach and be done with it.
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This is why I don't understand your view. Everyone(that is against TT) keeps bringing up that CPF does'nt trust TT or agree with the way he conducts himself. Isn't that an automatic check mark in his favor??
 
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kptvol said:
In my opinion the most realistic way for Trooper to become UT's offensive coordinator is to head to Baylor and crank out good offenses for several years. If he does that, the next time the OC job opens up, he'll be remembered because of his ties to UT.
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...when we are a non-factor? 'cuz that is where we are precariously close to now
 
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kptvol said:
That exact same line of thinking led to Randy Sanders getting his shot to OC the National Championship. We won the game. Everyone's happy. Six years later our offense is in shambles. The fans treat Sanders like trash even though he'd been with the UT program for 20 years. They'd do the same thing to Taylor if he were to fail.
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soooo, you suggest what???
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Rocky Top Talk :: THE CASE FOR TROOPER TAYLOR AS TENNESSEE'S NEXT OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR

Read all of it...



I really do not understand why so many of you have such a hate for him.
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If you think that anyone hates Troop you are missing the point. This is not about liking/disliking someone. Trooper may turn out to be a good coordinator/head coach one day.

What you are reading on the board is really more of a reaction to the fans of Taylor. Chest bumping and waving towels does not make you a bad person. In fact it makes you fun to watch. On the flip side, just because you have "likeable energy", does not qualify you to be a coordinator.

He has proven to be a good recruiter (he is not on a recruiting level with Rodney Garner) and a servicable position coach. Promoting him to coordinator now would be a huge roll of the dice, and we simply cannot afford to gamble right now.

UT is in keep up mode right now. We need someone with a experience calling plays. It is really as simple as that.
 
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Lexvol said:
If you think that anyone hates Troop you are missing the point. This is not about liking/disliking someone. Trooper may turn out to be a good coordinator/head coach one day.

What you are reading on the board is really more of a reaction to the fans of Taylor. Chest bumping and waving towels does not make you a bad person. In fact it makes you fun to watch. On the flip side, just because you have "likeable energy", does not qualify you to be a coordinator.

He has proven to be a good recruiter (he is not on a recruiting level with Rodney Garner) and a servicable position coach. Promoting him to coordinator now would be a huge roll of the dice, and we simply cannot afford to gamble right now.

UT is in keep up mode right now. We need someone with a experience calling plays. It is really as simple as that.
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Can we sticky this totally rational synopsis of the situation somewhere for the Trooper Army.
 
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