Tn's negative recruiting

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I'm not really sure that trying to sell a recruit on early playing time is negative recruiting... Negative recruiting is more like what Arkansas did to us last year, talking about how hot Derek Dooleys seat was or how the program is going down the crapper.
 
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VolAce said:
I'm not really sure that trying to sell a recruit on early playing time is negative recruiting... Negative recruiting is more like what Arkansas did to us last year, talking about how hot Derek Dooleys seat was or how the program is going down the crapper.
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If that's what Arky did, then I commend them for telling the truth.
 
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fade route said:
If that's what Arky did, then I commend them for telling the truth.
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Agreed but surely it didnt take a Coach telling that for someone to see. Dooley did plenty of that on his own without any help. With the lack of recruiting and relationships he had with HS kids and Coach's last season he knew well in advance he was gone. Too bad we will never get those 3tomor horrific yrs back.
 
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I'm supposed to believe this kid? The kid that flew out to Oregon the weekend before NSD and took a picture with a bong? This is negative recruiting in and of itself from a UGA signee, is it not?.... badmouthing another school thats making significant inroads with their state and talent. And since when does saying you can play earlier with our program, which is low on talent, than you can with UGAs program, which just played for the SEC championship, "really bad" negative recruiting? Not buying it. No cred IMO.
 
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Jimmy?

Old story, but instead of written story it's a video. Also, everybody does it because if you don't show the bad of other programs then a recruit would not be able to make a solid choice. His facts about said school would be a fantasy land and because of recruiting a kid can hear some of the negative that evey school has.
 
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I'm sure negative recruiting happens all the time, but is more prevalent with certain coaches. Dooley badmouthing Georgia talent is sign of bad character within the coach not bad character within the school itself. Unfortunately we had him representing our school with these off color comments. Also, selling playing time is one thing, but most of the best players are going to think they can go anywhere to play. I wouldn't think a coach would want to sell their school of being able to play at that said school over the other, because it would be easier. Like Bellamy said it just made him want to show that he could play anywhere. Glad Dooley and his supposed high character is gone. Talking down on a state we get such great players out of is extemely low character and just ignorant.
 
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Why do we care what he says? If you listen, sounds like he may have chose Tn if not for the negative recruiting. He mentioned the negative recruiting not only as you will never play at Ga (which I agree really isn't negative, just pumping them with info as far as numbers/pt), he mentioned the negatvie recruiting as us saying 'the type of kids' that goes to Ga. That is an oxymoron since we are recruiting the same kid. Does he have a UGA slant? Sure, but sounds like we pushed him away.
 
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secking said:
Why do we care what he says? If you listen, sounds like he may have chose Tn if not for the negative recruiting. He mentioned the negative recruiting not only as you will never play at Ga (which I agree really isn't negative, just pumping them with info as far as numbers/pt), he mentioned the negatvie recruiting as us saying 'the type of kids' that goes to Ga. That is an oxymoron since we are recruiting the same kid. Does he have a UGA slant? Sure, but sounds like we pushed him away.
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What's done is done now. I'm just glad we have a coach that is happy to be here and knows that Tennessee sells itself. Glad Kiffin is not here trying to sell us as USCe and Doodapuss not doing much of anything. CBJ is excited to be here and it has been easy 4 him 2 sell our program. I know I'm biased, but why would a recruit not want to come to Tennessee. We have a tradition that compares to no one. A passionate fan base and facilities that are some of the best in America. There is no need to negative recruit. We should tell recruits that people that negative recruit are showing you their character. Do you really want to play 4 someone that talks about others? WE ARE TENNESSEE...ENOUGH SAID!!! :peace2:
 
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I guess I can understand where he's coming from . Telling an athlete that he doesn't measure up against another teams current roster/prospects isn't the smartest way to convince someone to come here. Hopefully the current regime understands that and sells what we have and not what someone else does.

Although, it did sound like he was doing some negative recruiting on his own.
 
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BornToBleedOrange said:
I'm sure negative recruiting happens all the time, but is more prevalent with certain coaches. Dooley badmouthing Georgia talent is sign of bad character within the coach not bad character within the school itself. Unfortunately we had him representing our school with these off color comments. Also, selling playing time is one thing, but most of the best players are going to think they can go anywhere to play. I wouldn't think a coach would want to sell their school of being able to play at that said school over the other, because it would be easier. Like Bellamy said it just made him want to show that he could play anywhere. Glad Dooley and his supposed high character is gone. Talking down on a state we get such great players out of is extemely low character and just ignorant.
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His last in-home was with Butch, right? I would bet every school in the country does the exact same thing he is explaining. A selling point in recruiting is playing time, always has been always will be. Negative recruiting IMO would be lying about another school. Ark didn't lie about Dooley, Butch didn't lie about playing time (I don't think).
 
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You have chosen a school and the coaches at the other schools have long forgotten about you now. The butt kissing stage is over so man up and go get ready for some "mop up" duty at the end of games. You are no longer a HS superstar, you are merely a freshman nobody now!
 
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I think the Kid was a bit confused what the reporter was pushing as negative recruiting.

The kids heading to UGA will make getting on the field tougher, then the dept UT has.

2014 we will replace 4-5 D-lineman - UGA I don't follow.

We will see in time what Mr. Billamy progress has been.
 
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It's not negative recruiting if you are telling the truth. The truth is that he would see the field a lot sooner at UT. Bellamy specifically said they did not badmouth the kids at Georgia just focused on the talent level. So following this logic we should not have recruited RB's for the 14 class by telling them there was immediate playing time available. This was such a non starter.
 
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This tread is pointless in my opinion. We are talking about a kid who trolled people on twitter into thinking he was considering them just to get followers (UT, NC State, Oregon, etc), took a trip up to Oregon and was photographed with a bong (I don't buy for one second he didn't know it was there) and ultimately chose the school he wanted to go to all along. So pardon me if I give no legitimacy to his opinion of negative recruiting.
 
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dschult2 said:
This tread is pointless in my opinion. We are talking about a kid who trolled people on twitter into thinking he was considering them just to get followers (UT, NC State, Oregon, etc), took a trip up to Oregon and was photographed with a bong (I don't buy for one second he didn't know it was there) and ultimately chose the school he wanted to go to all along. So pardon me if I give no legitimacy to his opinion of negative recruiting.
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Pardon granted sir.
 
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dschult2 said:
This tread is pointless in my opinion. We are talking about a kid who trolled people on twitter into thinking he was considering them just to get followers (UT, NC State, Oregon, etc), took a trip up to Oregon and was photographed with a bong (I don't buy for one second he didn't know it was there) and ultimately chose the school he wanted to go to all along. So pardon me if I give no legitimacy to his opinion of negative recruiting.
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The reason GA didn't negative recruit is because they knew he was coming. I'm glad he chose the puppies. JMO and telling a kid he's got an opportunity for earlier playing time because we are not as deep at his position is Not negative recruiting!
 
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Every team does it that is if you are any good before the bama fans say anything even saint little nick does, if you think not you are:crazy:
 
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I'm calling BS on Georgia not negative recruiting. He's obviously gonna be biased. Don't put too much stock in this.
 
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