TN summer football tour

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#26
I watched it this morning.

I haven't smiled that big for that long since the Gator Bowl.:)
 
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Catbone said:
Butch would never say that. I imagine him saying "we are still a very young football team. It's a process"
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"We have been picked to win between 1 and 2 games this season by so-called experts"

"The average age of our team is 12.6 years old"

"We will play 152 true freshmen this upcoming season"

"Some of our players have never played a single snap of Pee-Wee football, so it's a learning process for them"
 
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24/7vol said:
I enjoy any morsel of Vol football that I can get this time of year. Have watched O/W game and bowl game so many times I can do play by play with my eyes closed. When's media days?
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July 13-16 ....Butch and the boys at the podium on Day 2, Tuesday the 14th. Be here in the blink of an eye.
 
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KBVol said:
July 13-16 ....Butch and the boys at the podium on Day 2, Tuesday the 14th. Be here in the blink of an eye.
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Thanks for the info...this is when I really know that football time in tennessee is just around the corner.
 
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Anyone have any luck tracking down a replay? I tried searching WatchESPN but it seems they're not letting people replay it there.
 
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I think it's on again right now. Didn't see it before so not positive it's the same, but the program on SEC-N atm is "Summer Tour."

They're covering Miss St right now.


EDIT: Nvm, looks like I am just catching the tail-end, guide says it ends in a few minutes.
 
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Aesius said:
"We have been picked to win between 1 and 2 games this season by so-called experts"

"The average age of our team is 12.6 years old"

"We will play 152 true freshmen this upcoming season"

"Some of our players have never played a single snap of Pee-Wee football, so it's a learning process for them"
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I never understand this. It's not just Aesius, I've seen many people make fun of CBJ in this manner.

The only thing I would say Butch exaggerated on was the projected wins from experts. And it wasn't even that much of an exaggeration; I know of several pundits that picked UT to win around 4 or 5 games. He was only trying to sell his team and motivate them. You guys are harping on him for that?

The rest are facts. We have been a young team (still are) and we play tons of freshman with zero collegiate experience and I honestly don't expect anything different this year.

So what's the problem?
 
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OrangeDonkey said:
I never understand this. It's not just Aesius, I've seen many people make fun of CBJ in this manner.

The only thing I would say Butch exaggerated on was the projected wins from experts. And it wasn't even that much of an exaggeration; I know of several pundits that picked UT to win around 4 or 5 games. He was only trying to sell his team and motivate them. You guys are harping on him for that?

The rest are facts. We have been a young team (still are) and we play tons of freshman with zero collegiate experience and I honestly don't expect anything different this year.

So what's the problem?
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It just seems like the majority of the team is made up of freshman and sophomores for the last 10 years.
 
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OrangeDonkey said:
I never understand this. It's not just Aesius, I've seen many people make fun of CBJ in this manner.

The only thing I would say Butch exaggerated on was the projected wins from experts. And it wasn't even that much of an exaggeration; I know of several pundits that picked UT to win around 4 or 5 games. He was only trying to sell his team and motivate them. You guys are harping on him for that?

The rest are facts. We have been a young team (still are) and we play tons of freshman with zero collegiate experience and I honestly don't expect anything different this year.

So what's the problem?
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You also have to observe those that complain about cliche's. Usually they read every interview word for word, then complain about hearing the same things. When someone is running a campaign for sports, politics, whatever- They have talking points they repeat.
I am in no way surprised by the talking points being repeated, I am however, surprised by the reaction of those who are.

Of course some are just making a joke.
 
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chargervol said:
You also have to observe those that complain about cliche's. Usually they read every interview word for word, then complain about hearing the same things. When someone is running a campaign for sports, politics, whatever- They have talking points they repeat.
I am in no way surprised by the talking points being repeated, I am however, surprised by the reaction of those who are.

Of course some are just making a joke.
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Have you noticed how many coaches use "resilence" these days?
 
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vols 30 said:
It just seems like the majority of the team is made up of freshman and sophomores for the last 10 years.
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And will likely always be that way.

Attrition takes many forms:
  • Career-ending injuries
  • Loss of interest
  • Transfers for playing time, compassionate needs, etc.
  • Early draft entry
  • etc.
So the best "model" of a team demographically is usually in the form of a flat-top pyramid:
....____________
.../..18 seniors....\
../..22 juniors.......\
./..28 sophomores..\
/..32 freshmen........\
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Following the model, 32+28 = 60 of 100 players are freshmen and sophomores (60%).

Now, our current demographics are a little younger than that. We're about 67% underclassmen. Our pyramid looks like:

....____________
.../..18 seniors....\
../..17 juniors.......\
./..26 sophomores..\
/..44 freshmen........\
-------------------------

Biggest differences from the model are our juniors (thin, -5) and freshmen (heavy, +12). So we're a little younger than the model suggests, but not extremely so.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
And will likely always be that way.

Attrition takes many forms:
  • Career-ending injuries
  • Loss of interest
  • Transfers for playing time, compassionate needs, etc.
  • Early draft entry
  • etc.
So the best "model" of a team demographically is usually in the form of a flat-top pyramid:
....____________
.../..18 seniors....\
../..22 juniors.......\
./..28 sophomores..\
/..32 freshmen........\
-------------------------

Following the model, 32+28 = 60 of 100 players are freshmen and sophomores (60%).

Now, our current demographics are a little younger than that. We're about 67% underclassmen. Our pyramid looks like:

....____________
.../..18 seniors....\
../..17 juniors.......\
./..26 sophomores..\
/..44 freshmen........\
-------------------------

Biggest differences from the model are our juniors (thin, -5) and freshmen (heavy, +12). So we're a little younger than the model suggests, but not extremely so.
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great post. What would those percentages look like if you went by starters or players who get major playing time (i.e. TKJR or josh Malone)?

Is it possible to make a model based off of that? Yes, I realize that the term "major playing time" would need to be defined, but I don't have a clue about stuff like that.
 
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OrangeDonkey said:
great post. What would those percentages look like if you went by starters or players who get major playing time (i.e. TKJR or josh Malone)?

Is it possible to make a model based off of that? Yes, I realize that the term "major playing time" would need to be defined, but I don't have a clue about stuff like that.
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Yeah, at this point of the off-season, even hazarding a guess at our likely two-deep is taking risk of slings and arrows of outrageous VN misfortune (hehe).

Having said that, my current personal best guess at a two-deep includes 10 seniors, 11 juniors, 17 sophomores, and 8 freshmen. Not so much a truncted pyramid as a wacky diamond:

....____
.../..10..\
../...11...\
.\....17..../
....\_8_/

And that's probably fairly "normal," too. Some teams like Mizzou and a lot of the B10, it'll be thickest at the juniors rather than sophomores. But it seems like a lot of teams these days have a sophomore center of mass. Ohio State did with their national title run last year. Georgia will join us that way in 2015. And so on.
 
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