TN Senate passes bill that allows handgun owners to openly carry (merged)

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To Count's point about the need for training: A colleague of mine came over to go to the range. His father-in-law had given him a handgun (revolver) and he had never shot it or shot much.

He shows up at my house with the gun in a bag (no big deal). He pulls it out and immediately (inadvertently) swept both me and the other person in the room.

Then I get a look at it and he's been carrying it with the hammer cocked (it's a revolver).

Fortunately it wasn't loaded but he had no clue about basic, fundamental safety rules.

He didn't even know how to check to see if it was loaded.
 
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Oh, and open carry is a bad idea most of the time IMO. Get a permit and IWB holster if you don't spend most of your time in extremely rural environments.
 
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volinbham said:
To Count's point about the need for training: A colleague of mine came over to go to the range. His father-in-law had given him a handgun (revolver) and he had never shot it or shot much.

He shows up at my house with the gun in a bag (no big deal). He pulls it out and immediately (inadvertently) swept both me and the other person in the room.

Then I get a look at it and he's been carrying it with the hammer cocked (it's a revolver).

Fortunately it wasn't loaded but he had no clue about basic, fundamental safety rules.

He didn't even know how to check to see if it was loaded.
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Thank you!

If only the law is amended that its required for them to go to an approved gun training course, I'm all for it

Let them learn about deadly force, nomenclature of their weapons. How to assemble, disassemble, advantages and disadvantages of open carry or concealed carry. Learn proper firing techniques and how to deal with weapons malfunctions.

After that, they can carry all they want. I will have the peace of mind that they have at least been taught the basics of how to handle a firearm
 
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CountVolcula said:
Thank you!

If only the law is amended that its required for them to go to an approved gun training course, I'm all for it

Let them learn about deadly force, nomenclature of their weapons. How to assemble, disassemble, advantages and disadvantages of open carry or concealed carry. Learn proper firing techniques and how to deal with weapons malfunctions.

After that, they can carry all they want. I will have the peace of mind that they have at least been taught the basics of how to handle a firearm
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I'd be down to take that class. You should make a business out of it.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Thank you!

If only the law is amended that its required for them to go to an approved gun training course, I'm all for it

Let them learn about deadly force, nomenclature of their weapons. How to assemble, disassemble, advantages and disadvantages of open carry or concealed carry. Learn proper firing techniques and how to deal with weapons malfunctions.

After that, they can carry all they want. I will have the peace of mind that they have at least been taught the basics of how to handle a firearm
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I don't know how anyone could argue that educating yourself on the weapon you intend to carry is a bad thing.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Thank you!

If only the law is amended that its required for them to go to an approved gun training course, I'm all for it
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This really wouldn't bother me. Hell, anyone wanting to carry should WANT to know what they're doing. Something along the lines of the Hunter Safety Course but for SD carry.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Thank you!

If only the law is amended that its required for them to go to an approved gun training course, I'm all for it

Let them learn about deadly force, nomenclature of their weapons. How to assemble, disassemble, advantages and disadvantages of open carry or concealed carry. Learn proper firing techniques and how to deal with weapons malfunctions.

After that, they can carry all they want. I will have the peace of mind that they have at least been taught the basics of how to handle a firearm
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Should be taught in schools as part of gym class.
 
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hog88 said:
Should be taught in schools as part of gym class.
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Not sure if serious or in jest, but it's not an entirely inaccurate observation.

Basic gun safety taught in schools is something that could and should be considered. A professional type of course from the local PD, SO or an NRA instructor that goes beyond the "guns are scary and bad" liberal mentality that would happen if the schools were given reign to do it themselves.
 
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Gramps said:
That would go over big time.
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And what is wrong with it?

We teach driver's ed which helps drivers be safer on the road. What would be the problem with a firearms safety class that dispels the liberal stupidity that permeates the education system and actually teaches some basic responsibility and safety?
 
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CountVolcula said:
Thank you!

If only the law is amended that its required for them to go to an approved gun training course, I'm all for it

Let them learn about deadly force, nomenclature of their weapons. How to assemble, disassemble, advantages and disadvantages of open carry or concealed carry. Learn proper firing techniques and how to deal with weapons malfunctions.

After that, they can carry all they want. I will have the peace of mind that they have at least been taught the basics of how to handle a firearm
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I'd be all for something like that.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Not sure if serious or in jest, but it's not an entirely inaccurate observation.

Basic gun safety taught in schools is something that could and should be considered. A professional type of course from the local PD, SO or an NRA instructor that goes beyond the "guns are scary and bad" liberal mentality that would happen if the schools were given reign to do it themselves.
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Where my son attends school, they actually have a shooting class and a team. His goal is to shoot competitively. ( in between football and girls) he's been doing good with his 22 and is wanting to try his hand at the AR when he is ready.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Not sure if serious or in jest, but it's not an entirely inaccurate observation.

Basic gun safety taught in schools is something that could and should be considered. A professional type of course from the local PD, SO or an NRA instructor that goes beyond the "guns are scary and bad" liberal mentality that would happen if the schools were given reign to do it themselves.
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I know it's been a year or two but for a week or two in gym class we took the NRA hunter safety course to include range time. Yes we had a range at the school. Even for those that don't and I'd say 99% do not have a range, hands on can be done with air rifles in the gym.
 
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Grand Vol said:
And what is wrong with it?

We teach driver's ed which helps drivers be safer on the road. What would be the problem with a firearms safety class that dispels the liberal stupidity that permeates the education system and actually teaches some basic responsibility and safety?
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Nothing, it's called ROTC or it was when I was in high school complete with a rifle range.
 
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Grand Vol said:
And what is wrong with it?

We teach driver's ed which helps drivers be safer on the road. What would be the problem with a firearms safety class that dispels the liberal stupidity that permeates the education system and actually teaches some basic responsibility and safety?
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There would be way to much opposition from both sides of the aisle to implement a gun safety as part of phys ed in our public schools.
 
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Gramps said:
There would be way to much opposition from both sides of the aisle to implement a gun safety class in our public schools.
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Are those from both sides of the isle who would oppose a good idea such as this be those idiot moderates you love so much?
 
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Gramps said:
There would be way to much opposition from both sides of the aisle to implement a gun safety as part of phys ed in our public schools.
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I'm not sure what the opposition would be although I don't think it should be a part of PE. A standalone class, certainly. Teaching a firearms safety class is really no different than teaching traffic safety in driver's education is it? Both are destructive devices without the proper training, both can cause serious harm or death if not respected and both should be given proper training in a controlled environment prior to use.

I fail to see how the liberal arguments of "guns are bad!" cannot be countered by some simple logic. The same parents that would toss the keys to a 16 year old for a ton and a half of speeding metal would suddenly become raving lunatics over the thought of someone teaching some basic firearms safety and principles?

Never mind, they would lol. But the same principles behind safely operating a vehicle can and should be applied to firearms.
 
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Obsessed said:
Where my son attends school, they actually have a shooting class and a team. His goal is to shoot competitively. ( in between football and girls) he's been doing good with his 22 and is wanting to try his hand at the AR when he is ready.
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Can we hold off on implementation until I can stock up on .22's? There's too much demand already. :p
 
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hog88 said:
Are those from both sides of the isle who would oppose a good idea such as this be those idiot moderates you love so much?
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hog88 said:
Should be taught in schools as part of gym class.
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Grand Vol said:
I'm not sure what the opposition would be although I don't think it should be a part of PE. A standalone class, certainly. Teaching a firearms safety class is really no different than teaching traffic safety in driver's education is it? Both are destructive devices without the proper training, both can cause serious harm or death if not respected and both should be given proper training in a controlled environment prior to use.

I fail to see how the liberal arguments of "guns are bad!" cannot be countered by some simple logic. The same parents that would toss the keys to a 16 year old for a ton and a half of speeding metal would suddenly become raving lunatics over the thought of someone teaching some basic firearms safety and principles?

Never mind, they would lol. But the same principles behind safely operating a vehicle can and should be applied to firearms.
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GV we agree on this ( bold in your post) I do not think there would be backlash for an elective gun safety class.
That would be an excellent class to offer.

That is not what hog suggested ( as you can see quoted). The thoughts of making gun safety a part of "gym class" is ridiculous. There would be serious backlash from both the libs and the conservatives.
 
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