TN isn’t Bama .

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a vol n tears said:
Saban was not who Ala originally went after. There is no way Ala knew Saban would be as successful as he has been. He had won a NC but not be dominant at Mich St or LSU. As a matter of history, so has Chizik and Fisher and Mack Brown. Prior wins are no guarantee of future results and championships. Do you want to pay Harbough 9M, Fisher 7.5M, or Malzahn at 6.5M per year for 6 to 8 years. If you are happy paying 750K to 1M per victory without a championship, that is your right. You could probably get Kelly from UCLA for about $5M a year right now.
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Interesting. Its strange to talk about now, but if somebody said I knew Saban would be this dominant then they would be flat out liars. Nobody had any clue that Saban would be anywhere near this level. He could have just as easily flopped. But he didnt. Alabama got lucky, simple as that.
 
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My question for fans wanting to spend big money on a coach. Will you be happy spending big money on a coach that wins 9-10 games a year? Harbough gets about $1M per win. Fisher gets about $800K-$1M per win, Malzahn got around $800K per win last year. None won any championships. Kelly got more than $1M per win. Championship coaches do not change jobs!!!!! Even Petersen (one of my favorites) has only been to the playoffs once and got drilled. Paying average coaches coaches 5-6M a year is what has led to the high salaries. I don’t consider $4M a year bargain basement shopping when you consider what 5-9M is getting. Maybe a 9 win season but no champs. Meyer will not come to Tenn because he can get whatever large amount of money he wants, at a school out of the SEC. USC will pay whatever it takes. If not them, some other school in an easier conference will. You can get all the “Gundy’s” you want to $6-8M but they won’t win championships. If Tenn knew they could duplicate the winnning at Bama or ClemsonI have no doubt they would pay $10M a year. There are no guarantees. To pay big money is paying for an unknown
 
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a vol n tears said:
My question for fans wanting to spend big money on a coach. Will you be happy spending big money on a coach that wins 9-10 games a year? Harbough gets about $1M per win. Fisher gets about $800K-$1M per win, Malzahn got around $800K per win last year. None won any championships. Kelly got more than $1M per win. Championship coaches do not change jobs!!!!! Even Petersen (one of my favorites) has only been to the playoffs once and got drilled. Paying average coaches coaches 5-6M a year is what has led to the high salaries. I don’t consider $4M a year bargain basement shopping when you consider what 5-9M is getting. Maybe a 9 win season but no champs. Meyer will not come to Tenn because he can get whatever large amount of money he wants, at a school out of the SEC. USC will pay whatever it takes. If not them, some other school in an easier conference will. You can get all the “Gundy’s” you want to $6-8M but they won’t win championships. If Tenn knew they could duplicate the winnning at Bama or ClemsonI have no doubt they would pay $10M a year. There are no guarantees. To pay big money is paying for an unknown
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Ding Ding Ding.......WINNER OF THREAD!
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Interesting. Its strange to talk about now, but if somebody said I knew Saban would be this dominant then they would be flat out liars. Nobody had any clue that Saban would be anywhere near this level. He could have just as easily flopped. But he didnt. Alabama got lucky, simple as that.
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To hire a coach who had previously won a NC at another SEC school isn’t luck it’s great management and a clear commitment to winning.
 
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Vfl2407 said:
Ultra successful programs:
Use a bagman
Recruit thugs and semi thugs
Convince faculty, cops, and local media to play along by paying them off.
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In Bama's case it's the whole damn state. They're broke and Bubba is their cash cow..
 
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Well, you guys keep bargain hunting. You seem to be happy win or lose, so you may as well save money, I suppose.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Interesting. Its strange to talk about now, but if somebody said I knew Saban would be this dominant then they would be flat out liars. Nobody had any clue that Saban would be anywhere near this level. He could have just as easily flopped. But he didnt. Alabama got lucky, simple as that.
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No, it wasn’t luck. Bama wanted Rodriquez who said yes, then, no.

Saban said yes, if and only if, he had total control of the football program. No boosters coming into his office telling him what players to play and what plays to run.

If UT wants to get to an elite level, the Haslam have to be heeled.
 
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BamaJack said:
Funny that it is so simple. In actuality, you are right, UT hasn’t payed up, on the coaching front that is. We pay Saban 12,500,000/year and it shows, you guys gotta get out of that $3 mill range if you want to win.
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What was Saban's starting salary?
 
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His first Alabama contract was 32 million for 8 years or 4 million per year. Adjusted for inflation that would be 4.8 million per year. A lot of people at the time thought it was much to high.
 
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Raebo said:
His first Alabama contract was 32 million for 8 years or 4 million per year. Adjusted for inflation that would be 4.8 million per year. A lot of people at the time thought it was much to high.
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Seems like a bargain in retrospect.
 
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Raebo said:
His first Alabama contract was 32 million for 8 years or 4 million per year. Adjusted for inflation that would be 4.8 million per year. A lot of people at the time thought it was much to high.
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Is that the contract that set the modern precedent for buyouts?
 
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Good thing OP took the time to remind us that Tennessee isn’t Ala****. And that Ala**** is better at football. I don’t think anyone here realized that.
 
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Jack Burton said:
To hire a coach who had previously won a NC at another SEC school isn’t luck it’s great management and a clear commitment to winning.
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A commitment at what risk? There are very few active coaches who have won a NC or even a conference championship that are available. Fisher, Chizik, Fulmer, Spurrier, Mack Brown, Carroll, and Meyer. No need to think Saban and Dabo. Kelly at UCLA came close.
So, from the above list, Who are you willing to take a chance on? Fisher was the only available option that was reasonable, but based on his years after the NC he has not shown that ability to come close to repeating. Thus, you risk paying $1M per win with no championship appearances. Meyer has shown he will retreat from the SEC rather than risk his reputation. He also has never been available when we were searching.
Why would ANY championship winning coach leave his current school if they are providing what he needs to win. Money is not gonna. Any school big enough to win a champ is big enough to match any money Tenn can pay. If they leave, there is a problem lurking
 
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Jack Burton said:
To hire a coach who had previously won a NC at another SEC school isn’t luck it’s great management and a clear commitment to winning.
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Dude I would’ve willing to bet not one single person at Alabama could have envisioned the run Saban has went on. Yes Bama got extremely lucky.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Interesting. Its strange to talk about now, but if somebody said I knew Saban would be this dominant then they would be flat out liars. Nobody had any clue that Saban would be anywhere near this level. He could have just as easily flopped. But he didnt. Alabama got lucky, simple as that.[/Q
those who think it was all luck are just clueless. its as simple as that.
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Interesting. Its strange to talk about now, but if somebody said I knew Saban would be this dominant then they would be flat out liars. Nobody had any clue that Saban would be anywhere near this level. He could have just as easily flopped. But he didnt. Alabama got lucky, simple as that.
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You are just clueless saying it was luck. really ****ing clueless.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
So you knew Saban was going to be this dominant?
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Nobody seen him being 5 championships in 10 years dominant. No possible way anyone could have predicted the greatest run in college football history. I figured he would get 1 maybe 2. Hell just his record against the SEC is mind blowing
 
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Dougie_D said:
I totally understand that if someone you didn’t recruit , should or can leave if they aren’t playing up to your standards.
BUT...in all serious, we aren’t Alabama and it’s not like we have 4-5 star recruits knocking and begging on our door.
Majority of these coaches claim to be “player development” types. Did Pruitt recruit kids in high school? I’m utterly confused why these kids are leaving and why it’s mostly non-recruited Pruitt kids. Is he that stubborn he’s obviously been “biased”
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Dougie..... brother...... I’m not sure what you’re saying.... but I think the answer is that the kids leaving realize they’re not figuring into future plans. They’re moving on to places they may be able to play.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Dougie..... brother...... I’m not sure what you’re saying.... but I think the answer is that the kids leaving realize they’re not figuring into future plans. They’re moving on to places they may be able to play.
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Totally agree that players should move on if they aren’t getting the playing time they want and was still “buying in the system”
I’m suggesting that Pruitt’s “system” isn’t that easy to sell to players anymore and players are walking out
 
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