TKJr

[Doyle Hargraves]

If any of these rumors are true, Georgia is about to lay down a beating on our team of epic proportions.

 

['Boro-vol]

I'm sorry you feel that way about me boro. I really don't remember getting in a argument with you for you to draw that conclusion.

All I said was I think it is BS because there is no real legitment source to collaborate his claim. He has heard stuff and it sounds like you have heard stuff, so until it is legitimized it is just rumor. I'm sure you will say that "where there is smoke there is fire" and it vary well be correct, but it may be just disgruntled players talk also.

I'm sorry if I offended. Look, we all get tired of getting run down about what we try to bring. I've been called everything but a son of God in here for suggesting I might have some information. Some of it was good, some of it was bad...but it was all honest and from somebody who would know.

Take or leave what people bring...don't denigrate because you haven't heard anything, or you just don't like the info. That is where my comment came from. I try not to be patently offensive, and occasionally I slip. It was uncalled for.

 

['Boro-vol]

If any of these rumors are true, Georgia is about to lay down a beating on our team of epic proportions.

Not sure the rumors will have much to do with that seeming eventuality.

 

['Boro-vol]

I don't have an agenda other than see UT come together as a team and play good ball. Did you or did you not see the last minute of our HC's Monday's press conference. It was about negativity and drama and indeed he,(CBJ), did over-react but that aside, I'm seeing it right here on VN.

Warrior put the shiner on Shy, J.Jones is quitting, now J.Jennings and TKjr have both quit. CBJ has lost the locker room. What's next ? Yeah, I have a choice and I'm gonna utilize it.

Yeah...I wouldn't address what I said either.

 

[m1al]

I'm sorry you feel that way about me boro. I really don't remember getting in a argument with you for you to draw that conclusion.

All I said was I think it is BS because there is no real legitment source to collaborate his claim. He has heard stuff and it sounds like you have heard stuff, so until it is legitimized it is just rumor. I'm sure you will say that "where there is smoke there is fire" and it vary well be correct, but it may be just disgruntled players talk also.

Don't mean to but in but I'm pretty sure boro's post above was a response to a post of mine.. That post had nothing to do with you. Don't be mad at him for that one.. Peace....

 

[MikeVol44]

I'm certainly frustrated like most Vol fans but to say he's killed his career here makes no sense. Everything about our program is better than it was when he took over. Again, I'm not happy by any means about some of his decisions but the truth is, our program is much, much better than it was 5 years ago.

Let me qualify what I mean by "killed his career". .....

See Derek Doofus.....

Which D-I program would hire CBJ as a HEAD COACH after he leads us to a dismal finish here? :salute:

 

[sjt18]

Let's at least make sure we're accurate. You can correct me but I think what I'm about to post is accurate.

No...I don't know anything about what OP is saying. I saw TKjr's tweet and he's somewhat spiritual.

The tweet was brought up by someone else and didn't have any relevance to the OP.

There was nothing nor have I seen anything that lends itself to the fact that he has left the team.

That's not what the OP said. Re-read what he actually did say. Said that TKjr walked out apparently planning to quit and his father got involved. Apparently the situation has resolved itself.

Someone else conflated the story to include JJ who as far as I know has said nor done anything. He just hasn't been attending practice or games. Jones said that it was difficult for him and that he had been in the training center every day for treatment. Even if Jones were lying about that... JJ deserves space.

TKjr underwent surgery so indeed there was a need.

That does not exclude anything the OP said.

Also he is slower than our other safeties so the reality is he may have lost a starting position.

He wasn't always. The injuries probably have hampered him. He's certainly fast enough and has experience and instinct. I remember people here talking about how slow Prentiss Wagner was. Then he ran a 4.65 for an NFL combine. That's average to a little under speed for an NFL safety but it is good speed for even an SEC safety. People don't always know what they're talking about when they call a guy "slow".

I don't assume a damn thing so back off.

Yeah. You do... starting with the assumption that no on has inside contacts. Whether de1conley does or doesn't... the fact remains that some do. A few people with support staff positions have posted here in the past.

If he quit why isn't it public and why isn't there anything in writing in this day and age of info available to verify the truth.

de1conley explained that. TKsr got involved and patched things up. No one involved would have an interest in that being public.

If he get's back to 100% he's good enough to play, always around the ball and reads the defense well. I could assumehe quit and his dad didn't feel it was proper and talked it over.

Agreed but that doesn't contradict the OP. The OP's point that you may not agree with is that this is a sign of bad things in the locker room.

I think it is "a" thing. I think it meshes with some other things like Hurd's situation. There's some smoke. It may not be a 5 alarm fire... but like I've said several times... Jones really needs a big win.

Same situation with J.Jones before season even started. I'm with the crowd that wants to see print or film before I draw a conclusion. Until that happens it's only a possibility. So did J.Jones quit?

Doubt it. I would say that was a deal where people put two separate things together and started a rumor. That's my read on it. Someone pointed out he missed practice. Someone heard him grumble about the way things were going (and who's ever been part of a team where no one ever grumbled?)... then someone decided he must have quit the team.

I personally don't think de1conley's story sounds like that.

Why then is he playing every week?

Considering how he's played... that's a great question but a different topic....

As for J.Jennings, him quitting makes absolutely no sense and you know it. I read your posts.

Yeah but I don't think the OP brought him in or did he?

I'd personally have to see something far more than him not being on the sideline. Some people are just not cut that way. It hurts them to be there and not be able to play.

The truth is many on here don't like CBJ and thirst for the chance to jump and they overdo it. These things go on everywhere.

Yes. There are those who don't like Jones and would like to see him gone. I've been critical but I think I've been fair. At no point including now do I want him gone. The best solution for UT is for him to be the coach the Vols need for the next 25 years.

But we don't know the extent of the problem. Either this is just ice floating in the water or the tip of something much bigger. I'm not closing my mind to either possibility. That's how you get your program in trouble... right? Jumping to conclusions either way.

UT has to suit up Sat. and take on a very athletic Ga. team and I can't help who the coach is. I don't think there is one player who is so discontented about playing for UT that he won't give his all Sat. Other players would sniff that out and do something about it.

I think there are some things that Jones has not managed well this year starting with the QB position. He has to clean that up and there could be guys already discontented to the point of not really caring. I've seen people like that. You probably have too. To be honest... I've been like that a time or two when I was young and immature.

He's got to be honest, candid, and clean that stuff up.

 

[1orangews6]

If any of these rumors are true, Georgia is about to lay down a beating on our team of epic proportions.

I said this last week when I watched how poorly we played. If the team plays they way they did last week it will be a beat down. They will hang 50 points on us similar to the Miss State game.

 

[KB5252]

People on both sides make a lot of assumptions. I don't know what's going on. I doubt any of the details being discussed are dead on accurate.

But there is some smoke and that's not surprising after a team loses a game like UF, hears about it all week, then lays an egg against a horrible team.

There are legit insiders around. Don't know about de1conley for sure though some have said he's often accurate. LWSVOL has a lot of links into the AD. I believe he has suggested some of the turmoil is real.

This, people who tend to bring good info indicate there are issues behind the scenes. The scope and details surrounding those issues may be in question but when there is smoke most often a fire will be found.

As you state it shouldn't be a surprise considering the letdown and then scary showing against UMASS. I would be surprised if there weren't some grumbling behind the scenes.

Things are not ok right now IMO. Hopefully Butch can get control.

 

[norrislakevol]

This, all people who tend to bring good info indicate there are issues behind the scenes. The scope and details surrounding those issues may be in question but when there is smoke most often a fire will be found.

As you state it shouldn't be a surprise considering the letdown and then scary showing against UMASS. I would be surprised if there weren't some grumbling behind the scenes.

Things are not ok right now IMO. Hopefully Butch can get control.

Amen to that. Even if there aren't a huge amount of off the field issues, some of the coaching decisions on the field have been perplexing this year. 1st and ten at the Gators half yard line and you get in the shotgun......REALLY??????

 

[volfan102455]

This, all people who tend to bring good info indicate there are issues behind the scenes.

Funny it is only good info when it is negative.

When it is positive is must not be true.

 

[KB5252]

Funny it is only good info when it is negative.

When it is positive is must not be true.

What I mean is some of those who are reporting what they have heard from sources in the past have been on the money. Why wouldn't we believe them now?

If they were reporting there was nothing to see here I would believe that as well. Has nothing to do with what I want.



******In going back through my post I see "all" was used and that isn't correct, I think between swipe and autocorrect I missed something that I should have edited.

 

[beachbums624]

No opinion either way on De1's post but why would that be so hard to believe.. It would actually make sense with all that's been going on. I'm willing to wait and see and not act like a butt hurt kid because I was told something I didn't want to hear.. It will all come out in the wash eventually..

De1 is definitely right about one thing. Some people around here really do have there heads up their arses...

Says the guy pretending , the Washington monument is his penis . DUH .

 

[m1al]

Says the guy pretending , the Washington monument is his penis . DUH .

Oh my you've figured it out.. The shame.. The embarrassment.. What shall I do....


smdh....

 

['Boro-vol]

Oh my you've figured it out.. The shame.. The embarrassment.. What shall I do....


smdh....

That's the Washington Monument?!?!

I'm significantly less impressed with you now. Not sure I can take anything you say seriously.

 

[CoaxialOrange]

The question is has it been that way for 4 hours?

 

[m1al]

The question is has it been that way for 4 hours?

Perma....

 

[sjt18]

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Amen to that. Even if there aren't a huge amount of off the field issues, some of the coaching decisions on the field have been perplexing this year. 1st and ten at the Gators half yard line and you get in the shotgun......REALLY??????

Last year's losses with the SEC and Sugar on the line... this year's loss to UF... Losing like that magnifies any issue real or imagined in a locker room. It is a step toward the beginning of finger pointing. If we see that... he's definitely done.

 

[sjt18]

Funny it is only good info when it is negative.

When it is positive is must not be true.

Since when? I've seen guys get pretty excited over an early report of a commit. I've seen people get excited over insiders who have reported that a player or group looks good in the closed sessions of practice.

There have been a few around whose whole schtick was posting positive "insider" stuff.

Maybe you don't notice because your overreaction to the "negative" stuff is a more significant emotional event for you?

 

[V_O_L_S]

He is out there in a jersey with the secondary for warm ups.