Time of Possession

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ApacheVol said:
I want to start by saying I don't think this was an entirely bad hire, but one thing that is concerning to me is time of possession under Heupel's offenses. It looks like his offenses hold the ball around 8 minutes less than his opponents. That can be extremely taxing on your defense, especially in the SEC. This aspect makes the DC hire extremely important and even then it's hard to say how this type of offense will do in the SEC as far as wins and losses go. Sure there should be plenty of points scored, but will we be able to stop anyone in the 4th quarter? What is everyone's opinion on this?
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This was Ole Miss' problem this year. Quick scoring, but so was the other team, which is a Big 12 type of football. Defensive fronts must rush the passer without blitzes to combat this type of offensive speed. Blitzing leaves the middle wide open for hot routes. regardless of who he hires to run the defense, he must recruit aggressive down lineman. without that, a defensive coordinator is as good as fired.
 
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a vol n tears said:
Is it possible we have a coach that can adjust his offense, even during the game, to what the score dictates
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It's possible, but controlling the clock has to start in the beginning of the game. It would not be that effective once the defense is gassed. I would hope more for a coach that evaluates the opponent's ability to control the clock and tire defenses and adjust the game plan accordingly. It they have a dominate defense, and you figure you will not have much effect on them by controlling the clock, scoring early and often and hoping for a few holds and stops might be the way to go. In the end you're going to give up some points late if your defense has been on the field too much.
 
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Johnnyreb#VFL said:
Do you not think Heupel is aware of this and will prepare the defense and hire a coordinator that complements his style of play?
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You would think so, but it isn't an easy task. Smaller defensive players generally have more endurance, but will be pushed around badly in this conference. Getting bigger guys that are athletic and have endurance is the key. Until we have depth like that, we will probably still lose to the big guys.
 
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ToP is one of the most overrated stats in all of football. Score, get stops, and keep the other guys guessing/overwhelmed. That is done offensively and defensively. If your offense is explosive, it should put up as many points as it can, as quickly as it can. The defense is responsible for getting off the field.
 
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Grayvol said:
ToP is one of the most overrated stats in all of football. Score, get stops, and keep the other guys guessing/overwhelmed. That is done offensively and defensively. If your offense is explosive, it should put up as many points as it can, as quickly as it can. The defense is responsible for getting off the field.
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That's the point. When they're tired they can't get off of the field. That's more exaggerated when you have a lack of depth. That's why pro and college coaches talk about controlling the clock.
 
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ApacheVol said:
That's the point. When they're tired they can't get off of the field. That's more exaggerated when you have a lack of depth. That's why pro and college coaches talk about controlling the clock.
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All I’m saying is, the defense isn’t as pressured to get off the field, if the offense is putting up points.
 
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How good was our ToP when we were either going three and out or turning the balk over
 
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ApacheVol said:
I want to start by saying I don't think this was an entirely bad hire, but one thing that is concerning to me is time of possession under Heupel's offenses. It looks like his offenses hold the ball around 8 minutes less than his opponents. That can be extremely taxing on your defense, especially in the SEC. This aspect makes the DC hire extremely important and even then it's hard to say how this type of offense will do in the SEC as far as wins and losses go. Sure there should be plenty of points scored, but will we be able to stop anyone in the 4th quarter? What is everyone's opinion on this?
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As long as we score a lot it doesn't really matter, we should be way ahead by 4th qtr and just keep scoring
 
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ApacheVol said:
I want to start by saying I don't think this was an entirely bad hire, but one thing that is concerning to me is time of possession under Heupel's offenses. It looks like his offenses hold the ball around 8 minutes less than his opponents. That can be extremely taxing on your defense, especially in the SEC. This aspect makes the DC hire extremely important and even then it's hard to say how this type of offense will do in the SEC as far as wins and losses go. Sure there should be plenty of points scored, but will we be able to stop anyone in the 4th quarter? What is everyone's opinion on this?
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We need a DC with a Bad attitude and a Big Pair
 
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ApacheVol said:
I want to start by saying I don't think this was an entirely bad hire, but one thing that is concerning to me is time of possession under Heupel's offenses. It looks like his offenses hold the ball around 8 minutes less than his opponents. That can be extremely taxing on your defense, especially in the SEC. This aspect makes the DC hire extremely important and even then it's hard to say how this type of offense will do in the SEC as far as wins and losses go. Sure there should be plenty of points scored, but will we be able to stop anyone in the 4th quarter? What is everyone's opinion on this?
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What is taxing is the other team trying to score 30 points in the 4th quarter to try to tie the game. Our defenses have been playing 60-65 % of the games anyway. That is because the offense has not been getting 1st downs, much less TDS.
 
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Tennessee’s O and D were not good.

Tennessee has upgraded their O simply by this hire.

Will their D be any better or worse.....I don’t know.....but the O will be.

Worrying about TOP doesn’t matter “as much” when you are scoring. I mean Tennessee could go 3 and out quickly and not score. Or Tennessee could hold the ball for 7 minutes in a drive and not score.........scoring quickly (or at all) is better than that.

Just my opinion.....but O line and overall roster is a much bigger concern right now.
 
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JoAllan said:
Tennessee’s O and D were not good.

Tennessee has upgraded their O simply by this hire.

Will their D be any better or worse.....I don’t know.....but the O will be.

Worrying about TOP doesn’t matter “as much” when you are scoring. I mean Tennessee could go 3 and out quickly and not score. Or Tennessee could hold the ball for 7 minutes in a drive and not score.........scoring quickly (or at all) is better than that.
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Just my opinion.....but O line and overall roster is a much bigger concern right now.
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If you are up by 17 or so going into the 4th qtr just let the DLine pin their ears back and rush the QB ( a D lineman’s dream) cause the O will be in a passing situation trying to score quickly.
 
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ApacheVol said:
I want to start by saying I don't think this was an entirely bad hire, but one thing that is concerning to me is time of possession under Heupel's offenses. It looks like his offenses hold the ball around 8 minutes less than his opponents. That can be extremely taxing on your defense, especially in the SEC. This aspect makes the DC hire extremely important and even then it's hard to say how this type of offense will do in the SEC as far as wins and losses go. Sure there should be plenty of points scored, but will we be able to stop anyone in the 4th quarter? What is everyone's opinion on this?
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He needs a good DC. That's for sure. And with all due respect to Steele, he needs someone in tune with playing D opposite a high speed O.

Spurrier used to beat Fulmer strategically. Fulmer wanted ball control O, D, and field position. Spurrier took him out of that gameplan most of the time by simply scoring so fast that UT had to abandon the power run game.

That's basically how the game is played now. Even Bama does it. Score points as fast as you can and make the opponent react to your aggression.
 
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The defense is going to be on the field a lot. We are going to have to hire a combination Strength and Conditioning Coach/ Track Coach/ Iron Man Triathlon Expert, that should cover it.....maybe a Navy Seal or Special Ops guy as well just for that gritty edge.
 
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