Tight End Transfering????

#26
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KCVolLaw said:
Since when does a frosh aa stamp mean you are essential to a team? He wasn't a 1st or 2nd or even 3rd team all acc. If he proves me wrong I'll eat my crow.
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Let's look at other Freshmen AA's:
Roshuan Fellows
Antwan Stewart
Hefney
 
#27
#27
I don't understand how you guys can say that you don't care if any player leaves the program...These kids committed 4 years of their life to play here and most of them give their all everyday. I understand that a 3-6 record is not what we want at Tennessee, and I guarantee its not what the players want; however as fans we have to support the players we have whether they are an all-american or a walk-on because these same kids that are "expendable" could be the key for a quick turn around for a new coach. So stop being such Aholes and think about these kids on a personal level and not just pieces in your little fantasy world
 
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bshell12 said:
I don't understand how you guys can say that you don't care if any player leaves the program...These kids committed 4 years of their life to play here and most of them give their all everyday. I understand that a 3-6 record is not what we want at Tennessee, and I guarantee its not what the players want; however as fans we have to support the players we have whether they are an all-american or a walk-on because these same kids that are "expendable" could be the key for a quick turn around for a new coach. So stop being such Aholes and think about these kids on a personal level and not just pieces in your little fantasy world
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see, these are the warm little fuzzies I was talking about. If Aaron Douglas' mama had her way, you would be winning 1-0!
 
#31
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bshell12 said:
I don't understand how you guys can say that you don't care if any player leaves the program...These kids committed 4 years of their life to play here and most of them give their all everyday. I understand that a 3-6 record is not what we want at Tennessee, and I guarantee its not what the players want; however as fans we have to support the players we have whether they are an all-american or a walk-on because these same kids that are "expendable" could be the key for a quick turn around for a new coach. So stop being such Aholes and think about these kids on a personal level and not just pieces in your little fantasy world
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They aren't committing 4 years of their life if they're leaving after 1. I won't support kids who quit when things get tough.
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#32
#32
therickbol said:
The family's relationship with Fulmer probably plays a key role in Douglas's decision to transfer, if he in fact does transfer.
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If Aaron wants to leave, I'll be the first to wish him good luck. Same for anybody else on the team. We had UT football before they arrived on campus, and we'll have it long after they're gone.

Go Vols.
 
#33
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bshell12 said:
I don't understand how you guys can say that you don't care if any player leaves the program...These kids committed 4 years of their life to play here and most of them give their all everyday. I understand that a 3-6 record is not what we want at Tennessee, and I guarantee its not what the players want; however as fans we have to support the players we have whether they are an all-american or a walk-on because these same kids that are "expendable" could be the key for a quick turn around for a new coach. So stop being such Aholes and think about these kids on a personal level and not just pieces in your little fantasy world
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If they want to run to mommy crying good riddance.
 
#35
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GreyWolf1129 said:
If Aaron wants to leave, I'll be the first to wish him good luck. Same for anybody else on the team. We had UT football before they arrived on campus, and we'll have it long after they're gone.

Go Vols.
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Exactly. The minute a University is held hostage by whiny athletes is when all athletic functions needs to put to an end.
 
#36
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I like the sophomore class. I'd be fine with gutting the rest.

We'd get more schollies, right?
 
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Tennessee TE Douglas considers transfer after Fulmer forced out
By Chris Low
ESPN.com
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Updated: November 5, 2008, 6:18 PM ET
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As the fallout from Phillip Fulmer's firing at Tennessee continues, parents of players have begun contacting the compliance office to inquire about the process for transferring.


Among those is freshman tight end Aaron Douglas, one of the best young prospects in the program and the top prospect in the state of Tennessee a year ago.

Douglas' father, David, confirmed that they will explore the possibility of transferring if that's what is best for Aaron, who is redshirting this season after undergoing shoulder surgery.


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The Douglas family is about as steeped in the Big Orange family as it gets. David was an offensive lineman on the Vols' 1985 SEC championship team and later played on the Cincinnati Bengals' Super Bowl XXIII team. Fulmer was his offensive line coach at Tennessee. Aaron's mother, Karla, was a starting center on the Lady Vols' national championship basketball team in 1987, which was the first of Pat Summitt's eight national titles.

The entire Douglas family has taken Fulmer's ouster hard, and David said the hardest part was the realization that the Tennessee family they'd come to know and love was being torn apart.

Karla wrote a letter to David and Aaron expressing her feelings about Fulmer's firing. The family forwarded a copy of the letter to ESPN.com.

Karla wrote: "Our family has been rocked. Everything we have tried to instill in our son about relationships, loyalty and treating people how you want to be treated is being tried. He is staying positive, because that is the way a champion and a competitor thinks. But he is also thinking about his values and what he believes in. Does he want to play for a coach and have a relationship or go through two or three coaches and know that the fans and the administration are in control? We are a sports family and we understand that business majors are running college athletics, but that is not what we believe in. We believe in family, relationships and how individuals are treated."

David said Fulmer and his staff went out of their way to make sure that Tennessee football was a family.

"But Tennessee is now like everyone else in the college game," said David, who played six seasons in the NFL. "It's just about Saturday and wins and losses. Forget about developing young teenagers into men unless they win you games and make you money on Saturday."

David said the essence of how much Fulmer loves Tennessee came Monday night when he mentioned to the Vols' coach that Aaron might transfer.

"He said, 'Don't you do that. Tennessee is where he needs to be whether I'm there or not,'" Douglas recounted. "That's what kind of man he is."

David reiterated that all they were doing was exploring what their options were and that Aaron would have the final decision on whether or not he wanted to transfer. It's worth noting that Aaron's only official visit was to Tennessee, even though he was a highly recruited player coming out of high school in Maryville, Tenn.

"That's because of the Tennessee family and because of Coach Fulmer," David said. "We still love Tennessee, but we're also loyal to Coach Fulmer."


I say see ya later....This is the University of Tennessee NOT University of Coach Fulmer.
 
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bshell12 said:
I don't understand how you guys can say that you don't care if any player leaves the program...These kids committed 4 years of their life to play here and most of them give their all everyday. I understand that a 3-6 record is not what we want at Tennessee, and I guarantee its not what the players want; however as fans we have to support the players we have whether they are an all-american or a walk-on because these same kids that are "expendable" could be the key for a quick turn around for a new coach. So stop being such Aholes and think about these kids on a personal level and not just pieces in your little fantasy world
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I can say that I don't care if these guys leave because our team is TERRIBLE. Many if not most of our players NEED to be replaced anyway. Furthermore, if they decide to transfer then it is clear that they have NOT commited four years of their lives to this program. If they were committed to the PROGRAM, then they wouldn't be transferring now, would they?

The attitude of the players on this team is nothing short of ATROCIOUS! That is largely the result of Fulmer's lack of discipline.

Also, if Fulmer is SO loyal to this program, and he's such a great teacher and leader of men, then HOW is it that he has TOTALLY failed to instill that sense of loyalty to the PROGRAM in all of his players?
 
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#41
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well maybe warren will at least get to step on the field now!!!! At least he wants to play here.
 
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Honestly, it almost seems like Fulmer has spoiled these kids. Seriously, I know Fulmer is a big Teddy Bear, Father Figure, nice guy, blah blah blah, but the University pays him $3 Mill a year to win games and they have a right to get rid of him if he is no longer producing. I don't know what people thinks UT is suppose to do. Just let things continue to go down hill just because he is a great guy and the players love him. Please! I like Fulmer too, and I feel sorry for him, but his time is up. Just look at his record against Richt, Meyer and Saban and it speaks for itself. For him to lose 31 of his 51 games since 2000 says something as well. The players say that they are upset by the way Fulmer was asked to step down. I don't get that either. He is getting to finish the season out. Coach in the bowl game if he wishes, if we make it to one. He has 3 games for the fans to show their appreciation to him. He is getting a $6 million buyout, and an opportunity to take a position with the University. Sounds pretty fair to me......
 
#44
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From the Article:

"It's just about Saturday and wins and losses. Forget about developing young teenagers into men unless they win you games and make you money on Saturday."
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But it's not about wins and losses - it's about competitiveness. TN is not competitive with FL, GA, Bama, and SOUTH FRICKEN CAROLINA? This is echoing jakez's earlier post to some degree, but it's not about wins and losses. It's the fact that we are not even in the big games. I would lose to Florida every year IF: we were competitive in all of our losses (i.e. we had a chance to win in the 4th quarter) and our players and coaches gave 100%.

It is a sport. If you lose, then you lose. But TN's losses havn't exactly been close. It's not wins and losses, its how we lost. And when you're losing to your rivals consistently by double digits, developing players into men is obviously going to be a lesser concern. That said, I hope Douglas stays, he was a heck of a player in HS and has a lot of potential.
 
#45
#45
If a player transfers, then they truly believe they're better than the program.

I have no problem with ANYONE transferring, including Berry. Berry is my favorite player on the team and one of the best guys to ever come through Knoxville, but he's definitely not better than the program.

If they all transfer, we'll get some guys who want to play for UT next year.
 
#48
#48
These guys need to cool off a couple weeks. They aren't gonna transfer this late in the semester anyways. The players are being a bunch of bitches right now...
 
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