Thoughts on Tracy Rocker?

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Remy said:
Now you did it!!! You brought up Trooper Taylor, the hat on backwards, chest bumping high fiving, ultra high energy coach, we can't have that at UT!!! We need Tom Landry in hat and tie, and heaven forbid wouldn't be caught dead wearing something as loud as anythin g orange skulking the sidelines without emotion. Everyone knows football is NOT an emotional game, right???

Granted Trooper's ethics may have been proven to be suspect, but it's the type of high energy guys we can't have on The Hill.
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Remy, man, sarcasm is a useful tool. But you are pancaking the sarcasm on top of your sarcasm, so much that it becomes impossible to see your actual point under all of it. :)
 
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livefaith said:
There are a LOT of factors that go into the making or breaking of a position coach. Too many times people look at some production # like sacks or defensive ranking, then point to the coach with a thumbs up or down. Did you take into account how DL recruiting went for the 3 seasons previous? How about how many players left early the year before? How about how the teams offense either got the D on or off the field? How about the scheme and coordinator goals? The list can go on and on.

To boil it down to the coach is wildly speculative using such limited factors.
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How recruiting went 3 yrs before....
A long time ago a governor of the State of Tenn. told me to evaluate how good a person is as governor while they are in office, you need to look at the person in office before him. Saying if that person did a good job (financial, ect.) then the man in office now will look great.
 
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savannahfan said:
How recruiting went 3 yrs before....
A long time ago a governor of the State of Tenn. told me to evaluate how good a person is as governor while they are in office, you need to look at the person in office before him. Saying if that person did a good job (financial, ect.) then the man in office know will look great.
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There is some truth to that. Absolutely.

To judge the current leader, you watch his actions. They belong entirely to him.

To judge the leader who came before, you look at recent results...outcomes. Those belong mostly to the previous fellow.

It's not just true of Governors, either. Leaders of all types of large, bureaucratic organizations are best measured in this way. So much of what they do is akin to steering a cruise liner: start a turn now if you wish to actually get the ship going in a different direction a mile from here. Results and outcomes are rarely instantaneous, or even short-term.

That was good advice, Savannah. :good!:
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Watch for "apparently" and "seems". They're the equivalent of a magic-trick observer pointing out misdirection. They're saying, "let's not necessarily believe this."

When you get past those warnings, you see underneath, to the real message.



Ah, there we go. The real position of the OP: he got fired before for lack of production; he doesn't deliver results.

But let's put a sugar coating around this message, make it seem more open:



There, that ought to fool everyone. Eh?


Later, further exposure of the real message:


Hurry, need more sugar coating, people are tasting the bitter behind it:


Note the use of the word "terrible"; Nooga's slip is showing every time he adds words.

And here's the clincher. Watch this: all these posts are in chronological order:








And there we have it. Several posts ignored in favor of one that expresses skepticism and a wait-and-see attitude. Clearly, the OP was looking for negative responses; this was as close as they got. Time to declare victory.

So let's fix Nooga's post, make it truthful:


Nooga, I don't even think you realize how obvious your angles are to other people. Your own words betray you, and you seem blind to the betrayal. You must become much more proficient at handling language if you want to play the kinds of verbal tricks you tried to play in this thread.

tl;dr: you're obvious, brother.
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VN jedi mind trick debunked. nicely done.:eek:lol:
 
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Not that I know anything, but I seem to remember that concern arising early on, but being addressed by having Jeremy Pruitt's influence in the formula. Apparently CJP thinks he's the man for the job. So, I'll defer to that. The biggest question is, does Rocker fish? That says. A lot about a man. I prefer fishermen over golfers, personally.
 
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KBVol said:
I can’t tell you how many times I had a thought, opinion or perception about something, some topic on VN and started to post.....but decided to check to see if my opinion was factually correct, found out I was wrong and decided to either not weigh in on that topic or wound up posting something different from what I originally thought.

I’m oftentimes a bit shocked that people pretty frequently post something on here that can be proven/verified to be factually and empirically wrong in about 3 seconds.
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This is exactly the reason that I do not have that many posts on here. That and I can see that others who are clearly much better informed than myself have already eloquently expounded upon a subject to a degree that my own contribution would be of minimal value.

Then there are a few times in which, with emotions running high, I simply do not care and am more concerned with "venting my spleen" as it were, than adding to the conversation.

Sadly, so many of the posters on VN often fall into the second category without being aware of it. :hi:
 
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KBVol said:
Rocker was fired after the 2016 season....Georgia was ranked #16 nationally in total defense that year, not 67th.
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I hope we kick his azz out after we are 16th in the country, if we do must mean we are getting another azz kicking coach.:)
 
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utvols74 said:
If he brings 1/2 of the brute force he did while playing DT at Auburn, he (and we) will be just fine.
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I remember him playing at Auburn was a force, if he can get players to play like he did then we are in good shape for years to come.:rock:
 
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That is who Pruitt chose. It's his staff. Will not worry about it until his portion of the defense shows glaring problems once the season starts.
 
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If the base player ain't keeping time the drummer will let him know.Pruitt's playing the drums!
 
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truevolfanincali said:
Really, dude? Isn't that EXACTLY what Butch did? Bring in big time recruits, but didn't have the ability to coach them up? You should think before you type.
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No, there'll be no more faux top 7 classes propped up by 30+ signees. No more quantity over quality. No more 35% attrition rates (hopefully)...

2 things I feel comfortable saying
1. Pruitt's classes will "look" like sec caliber players, no matter the ranking
2. Players that sign here will want to be here
 
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jakez4ut said:
No, there'll be no more faux top 7 classes propped up by 30+ signees. No more quantity over quality. No more 35% attrition rates (hopefully)...

2 things I feel comfortable saying
1. Pruitt's classes will "look" like sec caliber players, no matter the ranking
2. Players that sign here will want to be here
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My "feeling" isn't worth anything, but I get this feeling about Pruitt.
 
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