Thoughts on PWO Playing Time

#26
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
Well according to Pruitt he plays the best player no matter what. So. Unless we are citing a specific example of him not playing the best player then I don’t know what we are talking about.
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none of will know until the season starts and what links out.
 
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Pride85 said:
In my opinion, and for some reason I think this staff's, they should play the best player on a game to game basis. If the PWO shows up and shows out, by all means let them play. I say this with a simple caveat, take a look at what this coaching staff has brought onto our campus as a PWO compared to past regimes. There are some of the PWOs that are far better than scholarship players in the past. They just made them PWOs to placate the star children amongst our fan base.
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atleast 4 of our PWO players can go to a D1 AA and start next week
 
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XknoxvolsX said:
From experience, they will always play the scholly guy before either walk on. That is because they have an "investment" in the scholly guy.
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how is that fair to a young man with talent and maybe more talent than a guy that has been given 3 or 4 stars from a camp, but is not a college ball player?
 
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Bluetick7578 said:
how is that fair to a young man with talent and maybe more talent than a guy that has been given 3 or 4 stars from a camp, but is not a college ball player?
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Coaches make their reputation on being able to find, evaluate and recruit the best players. It is in each coaches best interest that those they bring in succeed.
 
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brentcontractor said:
Coaches make their reputation on being able to find, evaluate and recruit the best players. It is in each coaches best interest that those they bring in succeed.
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great point so with that understanding walk on players should not waste their time. No matter how good you are or could be.
 
#33
#33
If the preferences walk on is better than a scholarship player,PLAY HIM!What idiot would play the lesser of two players simply because one is on scholarship?This appears to be a question by a Yahoo who worries about one person's vocal inflection when saying something.If you are good enough,you play them.GBO
 
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GVF said:
So, how is the PWO QB we signed looking in summer camp? (Name escapes me now, but doesn't appear PWO's are on roster listing). Did he show anything worthy? Even compete enough to push the others?
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Not eligible until next year.
 
#35
#35
If there are no available scholarships and a PWO is good enough to play in meaningful games then he should be put on scholarship and the guy who got his spot taken by said PWO should have to be a PWO.
 
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jim pique said:
If the preferences walk on is better than a scholarship player,PLAY HIM!What idiot would play the lesser of two players simply because one is on scholarship?This appears to be a question by a Yahoo who worries about one person's vocal inflection when saying something.If you are good enough,you play them.GBO
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recruiting EGO
 
#37
#37
I know it’s different because it was D2 however; when my son played, a freshman walk on (preferred or not) had to do something pretty special (daily) just to get noticed. The coaches were watching the new scholy guys and players they knew would play from previous year (scholarship or not). If any made a strong case for themselves (over others) they would get practice reps (not just on the scout team).

And that was maybe just one or two a year.......on a team made up of over 50% non scholarship guys.
 
#38
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Neal Boswell said:
My take is this: We should go with a base offense of two tight ends (maybe the one on the left is Jam. Johnson/w/a TE number). Two flankers and an RB ...Just like we did against Notre Dame that time when Hubert Simpson wore a track down Shields-Watkins Field, just running the A and B gaps. Let the Big Dogs eat, and let's see who has the fuzzy 'nads. Play everybody we can,...and see if we are capable of playing anything like Tennessee Football. When they crowd the front...hurt them deep. This is the kind of game we need EVERY YEAR.
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Neal Boswell = Johnny Majors’ Volnation alias IMO.
GBO!!
 
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JoAllan said:
I know it’s different because it was D2 however; when my son played, a freshman walk on (preferred or not) had to do something pretty special (daily) just to get noticed. The coaches were watching the new scholy guys and players they knew would play from previous year (scholarship or not). If any made a strong case for themselves (over others) they would get practice reps (not just on the scout team).

And that was maybe just one or two a year.......on a team made up of over 50% non scholarship guys.
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Also the walk on need not fear. My son was a scholy guy as a freshman and now 5 years later he has a regular job. But, one of the walk on guys (walk on until his senior year) is now playing in the NFL.
 
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UCDog90 said:
Consider the following:

A preferred walk on is at least the same size, speed, ability as others in his position group. The PWO has demonstrated himself at practice and during scrimmages (Orange and White games) and not only has proven himself capable but better than half in the group. Coach says in press conferences that many players have done what it takes and deserves to play. In your opinion, should the PWO "be allowed" to be considered for playing time, or never "be allowed" because he has the label of PWO? Would it always be considered to be not in the best interest of the coach to play a PWO over scholarship players? Why would the coach not take credit for "discovering" the player as a diamond in the rough?
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It isn’t about credit. It’s about giving the team the best opportunity to win as coach Pruitt likes to say, as well as giving the kids an opportunity to play. The W comes first. Two sets of legs in most positions are better than one. Sounds to me like this is a scenario of first and second stringers battling throughout the season for PT while one potentially earns a scholarship.
 
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Bluetick7578 said:
great point so with that understanding walk on players should not waste their time. No matter how good you are or could be.
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I have known some walk on players. They know this when they walk on. They walk on with the desire to play & prove themselves. They know on the front end that they are going to have to really show when given the opportunity. They hope that they dont get hurt before they get that opportunity. Also like any job its about relationships. If you are a scholarship or PWO, you have a relationship with a coach that ask you to be there. If you just walk on, you are further behind because you are trying to build relationship & prove you are better. There are many a walkon that has done this so there is encouragement in that history. It is the same in the NFL, undrafted free agents have to prove they are better than the drafted.
 
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Bluetick7578 said:
how is that fair to a young man with talent and maybe more talent than a guy that has been given 3 or 4 stars from a camp, but is not a college ball player?
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I don't know. I don't agree with it. But, that is just the way it is. I've always thought coaches did that to get a return on their investments.

On a side note, back in the Trooper Taylor era, we had a RB that he said was better or playing better or was going to start. That was when we Houston and Riggs. Cannot remember the kids name. I definitely remember the News Sentinel quoting Taylor and Fulmer immediately backed tracked Taylors comment/statement.
 
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Here is my take... the OP is asking a question while assuming an answer... he knows someone that fits that description.
Second take, just because the kid says it doesn’t mean it’s true. I don’t know the scenario so he might be honestly telling the truth.


OP something to think about... CJP gets paid a lot of money to win football games so if there is a kid that is ahead of others and they notice then he will play... but until then he needs to be a great teammate. Time will tell. If you don’t want to wait then go somewhere else you could play immediately.
 
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UCDog90 said:
Consider the following:

A preferred walk on is at least the same size, speed, [ABILITY] as others in his position group.
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This is where you get lost. We likely have 4-star and in most case 5-star players in each position group. If a PWO had these equal characteristics, especially equal ability, then he wouldn’t be a 2-star walk on. He would be a 4 to 5-star scholarship player somewhere.
 
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butchna said:
I thought he transferred out after last season...or before.
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Last season he was a freshman. But never listed on the roster. I think I found one roster that had him listed but not on UTSports. I googled him extensively and could not find any media release of him transferring. Nothing in him after he was announced as a PWO. Kinda weird.
 
#50
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There was some stuff on him and Nebraska but that was before he committed to UT.
 
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