Thoughts on players outbursts and reactions

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VolinBoro

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I know a lot of people have major problems with the way the players have acted after Phil being forced to resign, but here is just one thought. While the players didn't handle the situation ideally for the public eye, the situation was handled poorly by the athletic department.

If the university wanted to assure that the players were not able to do what they did by walking out and their opinions of what happened all they had to do is make the promise that any player who said anything negative about the AD or university would immediately be subject to the revoking of their scholarship.

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VolinBoro said:
I know a lot of people have major problems with the way the players have acted after Phil being forced to resign, but here is just one thought. While the players didn't handle the situation ideally for the public eye, the situation was handled poorly by the athletic department.

If the university wanted to assure that the players were not able to do what they did by walking out and their opinions of what happened all they had to do is make the promise that any player who said anything negative about the AD or university would immediately be subject to the revoking of their scholarship.

Any opinions?
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That would be worse than what is currently going on. If Fulmer had asked the players to respect him by not commenting on the situation, and only about the team and the remainder of the season, then things would be fine....
 
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Their respect for Fulmer is the exact reason why there have been these outbursts. The players love Phil Fulmer and think he's been done wrong.
 
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If they cared so much about him they shouldn't have played like garbage this year.
 
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They should have been told before hand and never been allowed into the press conference. They have a right to express their opinions as Americans without repercussions.
 
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while they have that right, they also CHOOSE to represent the University of Tennessee, and with that choice they choose to be under the authority of the University
 
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Telling players not to bash the AD or university's decision, is no different than a coach telling his players that they are not allowed to talk to the media. No difference
 
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VolinBoro said:
Their respect for Fulmer is the exact reason why there have been these outbursts. The players love Phil Fulmer and think he's been done wrong.
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And it is that respect that would keep them quiet if Fulmer had asked them...instead, his probably silence on the matter is encouraging this crap.

The students do represent the university - but it shouldn't be totalitarian. You shouldn't get your scholarship revoked if you speak out against something they're doing. However, they should learn the personal restraint to keep quiet - they're not helping Fulmer at all.
 
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Denying a college student athlete the right to free speech by intimidation is a bad idea at any university.
 
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TennTom said:
They should have been told before hand and never been allowed into the press conference. They have a right to express their opinions as Americans without repercussions.
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Nobody has the right to express their opinions without repercussions.
 
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It is easy to sit back and say they should exercise personal restraint, but when someone does something to someone in your family you do not remain silent on the issue. For many of these guys Fulmer has been that father figure that has always expressed his belief in them not only as football players but as men.

You can say its not helping Fulmer, but them remaining silent and appearing to be fine with the situation would not be helping him either. At least the players have expressed their support of Fulmer.

I guarentee every player on that team feels responsible for Fulmer being ousted. Thats something hard to deal with, especially for many of the players who have been actually giving all their effort out there on the field even if that effort isn't great.
 
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i think its a direct reflection of the poor discipline the players have when it comes to their off the field behavior.
 
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VolinBoro said:
It is easy to sit back and say they should exercise personal restraint, but when someone does something to someone in your family you do not remain silent on the issue.
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when you use the media as a medium to air out your displeasure for someone who is one of the reasons you are where you are is tactless. i don't care how old he is, or what CPF means to him. to come out publicly and pretty much threaten MH is a poor reflection on his character...along with the program as a whole.
 
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They think their coach was fired unjustly, and then go out and get beat by Wyoming. This team is gutless just like our coaching staff.
 
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VolinBoro said:
I know a lot of people have major problems with the way the players have acted after Phil being forced to resign, but here is just one thought. While the players didn't handle the situation ideally for the public eye, the situation was handled poorly by the athletic department.

If the university wanted to assure that the players were not able to do what they did by walking out and their opinions of what happened all they had to do is make the promise that any player who said anything negative about the AD or university would immediately be subject to the revoking of their scholarship.

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I agree that it was not handled well by the athletic department. Although it would have been extreme, your suggestion is one way they could have handled with more success. There are several less extreme ways in which the athletic department could have handled it better as well.
 
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pantone151 said:
when you use the media as a medium to air out your displeasure for someone who is one of the reasons you are where you are is tactless. i don't care how old he is, or what CPF means to him. to come out publicly and pretty much threaten MH is a poor reflection on his character...along with the program as a whole.
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Who has threatened MH? They may have expressed dislike of him, but I have seen and heard of no threats...
 
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pantone151 said:
when you use the media as a medium to air out your displeasure for someone who is one of the reasons you are where you are is tactless. i don't care how old he is, or what CPF means to him. to come out publicly and pretty much threaten MH is a poor reflection on his character...along with the program as a whole.
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What if this were an office environment? What if your supervisor was canned by the CEO, and then you went around dogging the CEO (to the media, no less) for canning your boss, how long would you last?
 
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VolinBoro said:
Discipline is one thing, but standing up for something you believe in often trumps so called discipline.
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one should know when and where is the correct time to speak out, and to what extent. using a public medium is not the place for a college athelete to come out and say what he said about the university that so graciously gave him a scholarship.
 
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salutethehill said:
What if this were an office environment? What if your supervisor was canned by the CEO, and then you went around dogging the CEO (to the media, no less) for canning your boss, how long would you last?
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i know i wouldn't be able to come in on saturday and do my job:)
 
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pantone151 said:
one should know when and where is the correct time to speak out, and to what extent. using a public medium is not the place for a college athelete to come out and say what he said about the university that so graciously gave him a scholarship.
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Once again Im not saying the players should have been able to come out and speak out about it all and everything. Im saying the university could have controlled the situation with the threatening of the scholarship being revoked if they did. I believe the entire situation was handled wrong. But with no threat of consequences, of course the players are going to express their opinions. Just like you all have the right to express your opinions on the situation.
 
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I'm sure Mike Hamilton is not at all concerned about what some football players had to say about his decision. In the realm of public opinion, he has unequivocal support.
 
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salutethehill said:
What if this were an office environment? What if your supervisor was canned by the CEO, and then you went around dogging the CEO (to the media, no less) for canning your boss, how long would you last?
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I've been through that. Our VP was let go, and many within our department (not me) did elect to speak negatively of the senior VP who let our VP go. (Not to the media of course since we are not a highly public organization.) Long story short, that was their choice. They remained, but the senior VP was dismissed at a later time. It became known to the CEO and CFO later that the senior VP was the whole problem.
 
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