Thought on Hurd and the offense

#52
#52
Hurd fit the offense fine last year...for some reason, our regression on OL is giving him no where to run.
 
#53
#53
Since we're armchairing over here, I think you're wrong. I understand 'fitting scheme' when it comes to OL. Or when it comes to recruiting a fullback. But at a position where many teams see three RB's taking carries, I think it's good to be as diversified as possible. Maybe Kamara is a 'better' fit because he's smaller and shiftier, but Hurd is a monster who will be missed sorely by everyone cheering on the Orange and White.

On a related note:

When did the fanbase get so fickle on its players. This sentiment of 'Hurd not fitting our offense' just popped up over the last week, since whatever it was that sidelined him. Is this just some kind of internal damage control, or a sense of denial? We were rightfully stoked when this 5* beast of a kid committed to his home state school with a gaggle of others, and now that he's sidelined, we're casting him aside like he doesn't even matter.

I'm glad these kids love the University enough to cancel out the idiots and detractors.
 
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#54
#54
butchna said:
We disagree...so does the game of football. Hurd doesn't block like an OL and TEs that participate in a blocking scheme take a lot more damage than a blocking running back. Simple body mass indexes. Blocking 300 lb linemen vs safeties or linebackers.
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I guess you've missed the times he stiff arms 300lb lineman (see northwester bowl game), he's a better blocker then any of our TE's. The fact that he's fast enough to play running back and UT recruited him as running back dictated that he became a running back. If he goes to bama, you think he is a running back?
 
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tnmarktx said:
I guess you've missed the times he stiff arms 300lb lineman (see northwester bowl game), he's a better blocker then any of our TE's. The fact that he's fast enough to play running back and UT recruited him as running back dictated that he became a running back. If he goes to bama, you think he is a running back?
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That wasn't a 300 lb DL. I don't think Northwestern has one...remember it as a linebacker. And that doesn't equate to a gamelong pounding. If he'd have gone to Bama , he'd be a safety so I'm not sure what your point is.
 
#56
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tnmarktx said:
I guess you've missed the times he stiff arms 300lb lineman (see northwester bowl game), he's a better blocker then any of our TE's. The fact that he's fast enough to play running back and UT recruited him as running back dictated that he became a running back. If he goes to bama, you think he is a running back?
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The guy he stiff armed against NU was 6'1" 235. Actually smaller than Hurd. At least according to NU's roster. Love Hurd and his blocking ability, but maybe not the best example.
 
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ChismsHeadband said:
Since we're armchairing over here, I think you're wrong. I understand 'fitting scheme' when it comes to OL. Or when it comes to recruiting a fullback. But at a position where many teams see three RB's taking carries, I think it's good to be as diversified as possible. Maybe Kamara is a 'better' fit because he's smaller and shiftier, but Hurd is a monster who will be missed sorely by everyone cheering on the Orange and White.

On a related note:

When did the fanbase get so fickle on its players. This sentiment of 'Hurd not fitting our offense' just popped up over the last week, since whatever it was that sidelined him. Is this just some kind of internal damage control, or a sense of denial? We were rightfully stoked when this 5* beast of a kid committed to his home state school with a gaggle of others, and now that he's sidelined, we're casting him aside like he doesn't even matter.

I'm glad these kids love the University enough to cancel out the idiots and detractors.
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So if you really read what I said in the beginning of the thread I said I love Hurd and what he brings to the table. And I also said I think he will have more success in the NFL. I just think he is a more north andsouth runner. Not being fickle with just a thought of his running style.
 
#59
#59
I'll take some John Jelly Biscuits from Carlin's Chick-Fils-Aime. I hear they have great chicken biscuits.
 
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#60
#60
I would rather have Herd available but Kamara and Kelly can get it done. Perhaps the biggest impact will be confusion for the Chief. Will we run or pass on 3rd and 3?
 
#61
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tnmarktx said:
I guess you've missed the times he stiff arms 300lb lineman (see northwester bowl game), he's a better blocker then any of our TE's. The fact that he's fast enough to play running back and UT recruited him as running back dictated that he became a running back. If he goes to bama, you think he is a running back?
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You can't possibly be serious here. Hurd, a 240lb running back as good as an elite 300 LT? No, that's beyond hyperbole.

Jalen is an outstanding blocking RUNNING BACK, picking up linebackers and safeties and helping chip on DE's. Don't get it confused.

Also, stiff arming a defensive end, like he did vs Northwestern (#98, Xavier Washington, 6'1", 243lb DE), ain't remotely the same as lining head up on a 275lb defensive end and handling him like an elite LT would.
 
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butchna said:
That wasn't a 300 lb DL. I don't think Northwestern has one...remember it as a linebacker. And that doesn't equate to a gamelong pounding. If he'd have gone to Bama , he'd be a safety so I'm not sure what your point is.
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You're right. Xavier Washington, #98, 6'1", 243lbs. Defensive end.
 
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velovol said:
Not sure why people say he doesnt fit the offense.
The offense just snaps the ball in the shotgun everything else they do with TE's and lead blockers combined with zone blocking are all 'pro' concepts.
We just dont have a very good line.
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I think people would just like to see him running sideways less.
 
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KBVol said:
You can't possibly be serious here. Hurd, a 240lb running back as good as an elite 300 LT? No, that's beyond hyperbole.

Jalen is an outstanding blocking RUNNING BACK, picking up linebackers and safeties and helping chip on DE's. Don't get it confused.

Also, stiff arming a defensive end, like he did vs Northwestern (#98, Xavier Washington, 6'1", 243lb DE), ain't remotely the same as lining head up on a 275lb defensive end and handling him like an elite LT would.
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And 205 lb Jennings just laid a 305 DE to the ground, on the Kamara pass run td, GA.
 
#67
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UT-Rex said:
And 205 lb Jennings just laid a 305 DE to the ground, on the Kamara pass run td, GA.
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With a blindside hit that Thompson didn't see coming. Come on now Rex, you don't really believe that Hurd could line up at left tackle and block as well as an elite 300 lb guy, do you?

He's an outstanding blocker as a 240lb runningback....let's just leave it at that.
 
#68
#68
Hurd is at Downtown Grill and brewery as we speak. He didn't even make the trip. Unless the team is maybe leaving tomorrow?
 
#70
#70
I've loved Hurd since the day he has stepped out n campus. Think he gives his absolute all for us every game, with the exception of that gaffe last week. However I really think John Kelly will do big things in this offense. I think he is a step quicker to hit the hole, very explosive, and harder for the defense to find with the compact body. Only thing that worries me is I know there will be a drop off in pass protection from Hurd to him. Not saying he can't do it but don't think he can do it like Hurd.
 
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