Those who want Phil Fulmer removed...read this!

#76
#76
Etownvol said:
Hey there Coach Fulmer...nice to meet you. Stop by more often. I hope Spurrier doesn't beat us Saturday.
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Exactly my thoughts. This is the same type of delusional stuff that comes flowing out of his mouth at every press conference after a game. Have you ever tried to listen to him on the Phil Fulmer show..."umm, umm, that is not what we want right there Bob, umm, umm, we umm, got to umm work hard umm, and umm, try to get better umm, ya, umm, we just can't umm have these umm same umm mistakes next week, umm, we will umm, just work umm to get better."
 
#77
#77
LAJBoys said:
Exactly my thoughts. This is the same type of delusional stuff that comes flowing out of his mouth at every press conference after a game. Have you ever tried to listen to him on the Phil Fulmer show..."umm, umm, that is not what we want right there Bob, umm, umm, we umm, got to umm work hard umm, and umm, try to get better umm, ya, umm, we just can't umm have these umm same umm mistakes next week, umm, we will umm, just work umm to get better."
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Yep, exactly. When he said ''we're going to work to get better'' Sat. night after the game, I just couldn't understand it.
 
#78
#78
viagravolzy said:
Phil had the best talent in the nation year in and year out in the 90's. Phil is the same horrible game coach, he won a great many of his games during this time because of his teams superior talent!
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that and the fact that spurrier was the only competition for him coaching-wise.
 
#79
#79
VolsRule said:
Because fulmer is the "same coach he always was" and is just "facing better competition", UT should keep him as head coach??? :lolabove:
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where did i say that? if that comment is directed at me, you might want to read my post again......i'm in favor of a change.
 
#80
#80
I don't think it falls on Fulmer, at least entirely. Our defense is great. Even Johnny Majors said that Chavis has saved Fulmer's job for the last 10 years. I think Clawson needs to go. I mean, 1st and 10 and we line up with a goal-line type setup with no wideouts split and try to run off tackle? We aren't the Richmond Spiders, and maybe that worked in their crapass league. I dont think we owe Fulmer anything at all, but I don't think it's his fault either, other than that he hired Clawson. I say cut that SOB loose. I wish we had let Trooper Taylor stay. AS for the attitude of the team, take any team that has respectable talent and have them lose 5 of 8 games and see how they react. Losing a great motivator like Trooper compounds the situation. I just dont see why no one is calling for Clawson's head. I guess it's easier to jump on bandwagons when you have enough time to post 15,000 comments.
 
#81
#81
fatjoe8 said:
Cartervol is a bit of a ...insert derogatory word...

How about this: Phil announces 2009 is his last season and he will retire and remain in an "administrative capacity"??? This would be honorable, and hey, maybe Phil would get super fired up and surprise everyone. Penn St has been mediocre in recent years, and look at them and their archaic coach now...
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JoPa and Fulmer are to different kind of coaches, Fulmer only wants to belong to JoPa's club, And you must either be Cromptons buddy or a coach to be so hung up on him or the staff, when you can't beat Fla. at least once in the last 4 yrs then ...Let's not get started on the discipline issues and lack of, since CCut left and the 2 seasons he was back............WOW what a difference.

Thats why Penn St owns us in Bowl Games HUH.
 
#82
#82
The problem is Phil...the problem has always been Phil even back when all the crap went down with Sanders it was Phil and his micromanaging arse.
 
#83
#83
They've got Paterno sitting up in the booth with his cross-stitching.....

When Fulmer goes this year (and he will), I would like very much to see someone completely outside the TN family.....
 
#84
#84
fatjoe8 said:
I know 80% of you want a change, but please consider this (and I say please so we can all think, not that any of you have any real power)....

Rich Rodriguez was dominant the past few seasons at WVU, coming within a Pitt loss from appearing in last season's NC game. He takes over a respectable (yes respectable...how many straight winning seasons?) Michigan program, and now look at Michigan. They are like Notre Dame of the past few seasons. Really, Michigan is losing to TOLEDO??!!

Tennessee has players, has athletes, including the signing recently of the nation's #1 Running Back.

The common ingredient in all of SEC Title game appearances has been a quality, SEASONED QB (Casey, Erik)...Is it really Phil's fault J Crompton got in the games and shriveled under the pressure. Or that Stephens can't move the offense?

Let's be real. We don't have Peerless Price, Carl Pickens, or Robert Meachem. We don't have Travis Henry, Stephens, or John Henderson. We have a mediocre team. Changing coaching staffs means we lose our current recruits (#1 RB!) and destabilize our program for several years.

People, do we really want to be as bad as ND last year? As bad as Michigan this year? Can you imagine LOSING TO NORTHERN ILLINOIS? Losing to teams like Wyoming (who I know is dreadful)????

Give Phil another year. The QB's will be seasoned, a bad year behind them, and hopefully we can compete next season for the SEC east. I DO NOT want to see us being 2-9 next season and losing to everyone except non-division 1 teams. Tennessee is losing this year, but my goodness. We are losing to FLORIDA, ALABAMA, GEORGIA AND AUBURN. All 4 teams have been or are current top 10 teams. Crap happens. It's a bad season.

WE LOST TO LAST SEASON'S NATIONAL CHAMPS BY A MEASLEY TOUCHDOWN...SHOULD HAVE WON THE DAD GUM GAME!

Phil and co. surely didn't forget how to coach.

Everyone calm down....Embrace the face we cannot CANNOT be national champs every year. We will be ok, but we need stability.

Bringing in a Lane Kiffin or Muschamp ensures NOTHING...what ties to the SE does Kiffin have? Come on people. Get out of your drunken haze and relax until next season. If the same thing happens again, then dismiss Fulmer.
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I will have to watch the film!!!!!!!!!
 
#85
#85
must be getting close to a change notice all the past vols (when the team was decent) at the games in support of cpf. so he must be worried about something to invite them.
 
#86
#86
Bringing in a Lane Kiffin or Muschamp ensures NOTHING...what ties to the SE does Kiffin have? Come on people. Get out of your drunken haze and relax until next season. If the same thing happens again, then dismiss Fulmer.[/QUOTE]

Actually, one of the things I see is that team has no game-changing type of talent except for Berry, so it's probably more about talent acquisition than coaching that's needed. Unfortunately, Fulmer's staff seemed to have lagged badly behind in that area...gotten too stale.

As for Muschamp, he would at least ensure the team having practiced against Saban's hybrid defense, and certainly would make it easier to see how Alabama defense plays other teams in the SEC, and that would be a nice advantage.

And as for Kiffin, having USC ties is no little thing. I might even suggest getting Norm Chow (Also with ties to USC and a good offensive mind) wouldn't be unreasonable.
 
#87
#87
Imagine what Mike Leach could do with the athletics that Tennessee is accustomed to having. Plus, all the top quarterbacks would want to run his system.
 
#89
#89
He is an offensive genius and with the typical UT defense it would make a great combo. I still say we would get a top flight QB and certainly better than recent years. Great college QB's don't always make great pros.
 
#90
#90
fatjoe8 said:
I know 80% of you want a change, but please consider this (and I say please so we can all think, not that any of you have any real power)....

Rich Rodriguez was dominant the past few seasons at WVU, coming within a Pitt loss from appearing in last season's NC game. He takes over a respectable (yes respectable...how many straight winning seasons?) Michigan program, and now look at Michigan. They are like Notre Dame of the past few seasons. Really, Michigan is losing to TOLEDO??!!

Tennessee has players, has athletes, including the signing recently of the nation's #1 Running Back.

The common ingredient in all of SEC Title game appearances has been a quality, SEASONED QB (Casey, Erik)...Is it really Phil's fault J Crompton got in the games and shriveled under the pressure. Or that Stephens can't move the offense?

Let's be real. We don't have Peerless Price, Carl Pickens, or Robert Meachem. We don't have Travis Henry, Stephens, or John Henderson. We have a mediocre team. Changing coaching staffs means we lose our current recruits (#1 RB!) and destabilize our program for several years.

People, do we really want to be as bad as ND last year? As bad as Michigan this year? Can you imagine LOSING TO NORTHERN ILLINOIS? Losing to teams like Wyoming (who I know is dreadful)????

Give Phil another year. The QB's will be seasoned, a bad year behind them, and hopefully we can compete next season for the SEC east. I DO NOT want to see us being 2-9 next season and losing to everyone except non-division 1 teams. Tennessee is losing this year, but my goodness. We are losing to FLORIDA, ALABAMA, GEORGIA AND AUBURN. All 4 teams have been or are current top 10 teams. Crap happens. It's a bad season.

WE LOST TO LAST SEASON'S NATIONAL CHAMPS BY A MEASLEY TOUCHDOWN...SHOULD HAVE WON THE DAD GUM GAME!

Phil and co. surely didn't forget how to coach.

Everyone calm down....Embrace the face we cannot CANNOT be national champs every year. We will be ok, but we need stability.

Bringing in a Lane Kiffin or Muschamp ensures NOTHING...what ties to the SE does Kiffin have? Come on people. Get out of your drunken haze and relax until next season. If the same thing happens again, then dismiss Fulmer.
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So the fact that fulmer has lost complete control of our program is no indication that he needs to go. How many of Saban's, carroll's, brown's, stoop's, meyer's, etc players are LAUGHING on the sideline while getting beat by an arch rival. There is NO LEADERSHIP on this team and there hasn't been any in quite a while, Stephens actually got in people's faces on the sideline which I was glad to see. But leaders are developed for the most part by the coaches who show them how to lead, we don't have that. It's sad that our program has fallen this far, but it is also a reality, we need some fresh faces, ideas, schemes, enthusiasm or our program will be considered a Kentucky in a few short years.
 
#91
#91
Stop standing up for Philip Fulmer! His record of medocrity since 1998 shows that he has become complacent. Most coaches strive for championship years every year, and you can tell by the way they coach... but Fulmer seems very satisfied with 8-10 wins, which at the University of Tennessee will not be good enough, and he should know that having spent his entire life here. Until a couple of weeks ago, they were having laid back practices, so that proves it there. When his seat heats up, he tries to get back into hardcore coaching, but this year it is too late - he has lost thet team.

I know we reached the SEC Champ. game last year, but that was because all the SEC East teams kept beating each other, and we were just the lucky ones that didn't happen to get upset as many times. Plus, we had Cutcliffe, and he really gets Phil to coach a little better. When he came back, he told Phil Fulmer where we should focus at in recruiting. Phil has just become complacent.

Now, the Michigan situation is just plain silly to bring up. Rich Rodriquez is trying to urn a teams offense in a complete opposite direction. Michgan was built as a big, tough football team that is made to pound the ball and the typical pro-style passing game. His offense needs mobilty and speed, the comlete opposite of what he has. If you haven't noticed his recruiting class for this year, then you may want to look that up. He has 24 or so commitments from extremely talented young men... I think one of the best classes of spread style offense in the country. They are the burners of this years class, and they will fit his offense "to a T." And, it is very silly to ignore the fact that it is his first year there...

Now, when we hire a new coach, we can go one of 2 directions: Either a coach who's scheme sort of align with Coach Fulmer's, or a coach who will bring a new attitude to this team.

I personlly think it is time for a huge change, and that means I like the second option. I think Boise State's Chris Peterson could recruit anyone to come and play here, and his offense probably could take form quickly with the talent we have here now, so there wouldn't be ahuge drop off for a year or two. Plus, he would be able to get a better defensive coordinator to come to UT with him (though the one he has now has built a mighty fine defense). I would be exctatic to see C.P. come to UT!

I am in no way a Fulmer hater, it actuallt make me sad to think that it is time to move on from what once was a great coach, but he has obviously fell behind the time, which only three older coaches seem to be able to coach in any decade that I have seen: Paterno, Bowden and Mack Bown. These coaches have been able to keep up with the game, but I think Phil has fallen behind. I wish him the best of luck with whatever is in his future, but it definately shouldn't be here at UT...
 
#92
#92
fatjoe8 said:
I know 80% of you want a change, but please consider this (and I say please so we can all think, not that any of you have any real power)....

Rich Rodriguez was dominant the past few seasons at WVU, coming within a Pitt loss from appearing in last season's NC game. He takes over a respectable (yes respectable...how many straight winning seasons?) Michigan program, and now look at Michigan. They are like Notre Dame of the past few seasons. Really, Michigan is losing to TOLEDO??!!

Tennessee has players, has athletes, including the signing recently of the nation's #1 Running Back.

The common ingredient in all of SEC Title game appearances has been a quality, SEASONED QB (Casey, Erik)...Is it really Phil's fault J Crompton got in the games and shriveled under the pressure. Or that Stephens can't move the offense?

Let's be real. We don't have Peerless Price, Carl Pickens, or Robert Meachem. We don't have Travis Henry, Stephens, or John Henderson. We have a mediocre team. Changing coaching staffs means we lose our current recruits (#1 RB!) and destabilize our program for several years.

People, do we really want to be as bad as ND last year? As bad as Michigan this year? Can you imagine LOSING TO NORTHERN ILLINOIS? Losing to teams like Wyoming (who I know is dreadful)????

Give Phil another year. The QB's will be seasoned, a bad year behind them, and hopefully we can compete next season for the SEC east. I DO NOT want to see us being 2-9 next season and losing to everyone except non-division 1 teams. Tennessee is losing this year, but my goodness. We are losing to FLORIDA, ALABAMA, GEORGIA AND AUBURN. All 4 teams have been or are current top 10 teams. Crap happens. It's a bad season.

WE LOST TO LAST SEASON'S NATIONAL CHAMPS BY A MEASLEY TOUCHDOWN...SHOULD HAVE WON THE DAD GUM GAME!

Phil and co. surely didn't forget how to coach.

Everyone calm down....Embrace the face we cannot CANNOT be national champs every year. We will be ok, but we need stability.

Bringing in a Lane Kiffin or Muschamp ensures NOTHING...what ties to the SE does Kiffin have? Come on people. Get out of your drunken haze and relax until next season. If the same thing happens again, then dismiss Fulmer.
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With this kind of logic, Bruce Pearl should never have gotten a chance at Tennessee.
 
#93
#93
let's see, Rich Rod went to michigan, inherited a team that lost 6 players to the NFL.. including the QB, the o line, the running backs.. installed a new offence and has none of his players to run it.. we lost a QB and we can do nothing on offence.. pitiful .. I'm not a Michigan fan by any means, but I would bet that next year they will not suck and 2 years from now will be competing for a big10 title... here is a listing of the players drafted.. makes a bit of a difference comparing their situation to ours....

Out of 252 newly drafted NFL players, six of them played for Michigan last year. The ten who applied for the draft were Jamar Adams, Adrian Arrington, Shawn Crable, Brandent Englemon, Chris Graham, Mike Hart, Chad Henne, Adam Kraus, Jake Long and Mario Manningham.
 
#94
#94
who ever it is that replaces Phil will not have the offense they want for at least 3 to 4 years because he will have to recuit the players he wants. I just want to know as fans are we willing to wait that long before we start asking for their head on a silver platter. And quit bringing up Saben that is alabama not Tennessee. there could be penty of reasons why we are not playing good old Tennessee football. Maybe Phil has lost the fire, Maybe the players we have cannot addapt to Clawsons playbook, maybe the players don't have the desire to win but is just an oppertunity to play in a big college game. Maybe its us fans who have expected to go to the sec championship every year and win an national title. We need to stand by our team but not always agree with them. I still bleed orange. So if Phil does leave and one of the coaches that have had their names splashed all over threads here come in and fails do we point the finger at each other.
 
#95
#95
fatjoe8 said:
I know 80% of you want a change, but please consider this (and I say please so we can all think, not that any of you have any real power)....

Rich Rodriguez was dominant the past few seasons at WVU, coming within a Pitt loss from appearing in last season's NC game. He takes over a respectable (yes respectable...how many straight winning seasons?) Michigan program, and now look at Michigan. They are like Notre Dame of the past few seasons. Really, Michigan is losing to TOLEDO??!!

Tennessee has players, has athletes, including the signing recently of the nation's #1 Running Back.

The common ingredient in all of SEC Title game appearances has been a quality, SEASONED QB (Casey, Erik)...Is it really Phil's fault J Crompton got in the games and shriveled under the pressure. Or that Stephens can't move the offense?

Let's be real. We don't have Peerless Price, Carl Pickens, or Robert Meachem. We don't have Travis Henry, Stephens, or John Henderson. We have a mediocre team. Changing coaching staffs means we lose our current recruits (#1 RB!) and destabilize our program for several years.

People, do we really want to be as bad as ND last year? As bad as Michigan this year? Can you imagine LOSING TO NORTHERN ILLINOIS? Losing to teams like Wyoming (who I know is dreadful)????

Give Phil another year. The QB's will be seasoned, a bad year behind them, and hopefully we can compete next season for the SEC east. I DO NOT want to see us being 2-9 next season and losing to everyone except non-division 1 teams. Tennessee is losing this year, but my goodness. We are losing to FLORIDA, ALABAMA, GEORGIA AND AUBURN. All 4 teams have been or are current top 10 teams. Crap happens. It's a bad season.

WE LOST TO LAST SEASON'S NATIONAL CHAMPS BY A MEASLEY TOUCHDOWN...SHOULD HAVE WON THE DAD GUM GAME!

Phil and co. surely didn't forget how to coach.

Everyone calm down....Embrace the face we cannot CANNOT be national champs every year. We will be ok, but we need stability.

Bringing in a Lane Kiffin or Muschamp ensures NOTHING...what ties to the SE does Kiffin have? Come on people. Get out of your drunken haze and relax until next season. If the same thing happens again, then dismiss Fulmer.
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what a worthless post, the time has come, CPF ship has sailed. I will suffer through a couple more season of getting the bugs worked out w/ a new coach as opposed to the last 8 yrs CPF has had to fix it and is yet to do so. GAME OVER CPF.
 
#96
#96
fatjoe8 said:
I know 80% of you want a change, but please consider this (and I say please so we can all think, not that any of you have any real power)....

Rich Rodriguez was dominant the past few seasons at WVU, coming within a Pitt loss from appearing in last season's NC game. He takes over a respectable (yes respectable...how many straight winning seasons?) Michigan program, and now look at Michigan. They are like Notre Dame of the past few seasons. Really, Michigan is losing to TOLEDO??!!

Tennessee has players, has athletes, including the signing recently of the nation's #1 Running Back.

The common ingredient in all of SEC Title game appearances has been a quality, SEASONED QB (Casey, Erik)...Is it really Phil's fault J Crompton got in the games and shriveled under the pressure. Or that Stephens can't move the offense?

Let's be real. We don't have Peerless Price, Carl Pickens, or Robert Meachem. We don't have Travis Henry, Stephens, or John Henderson. We have a mediocre team. Changing coaching staffs means we lose our current recruits (#1 RB!) and destabilize our program for several years.

People, do we really want to be as bad as ND last year? As bad as Michigan this year? Can you imagine LOSING TO NORTHERN ILLINOIS? Losing to teams like Wyoming (who I know is dreadful)????

Give Phil another year. The QB's will be seasoned, a bad year behind them, and hopefully we can compete next season for the SEC east. I DO NOT want to see us being 2-9 next season and losing to everyone except non-division 1 teams. Tennessee is losing this year, but my goodness. We are losing to FLORIDA, ALABAMA, GEORGIA AND AUBURN. All 4 teams have been or are current top 10 teams. Crap happens. It's a bad season.

WE LOST TO LAST SEASON'S NATIONAL CHAMPS BY A MEASLEY TOUCHDOWN...SHOULD HAVE WON THE DAD GUM GAME!

Phil and co. surely didn't forget how to coach.

Everyone calm down....Embrace the face we cannot CANNOT be national champs every year. We will be ok, but we need stability.

Bringing in a Lane Kiffin or Muschamp ensures NOTHING...what ties to the SE does Kiffin have? Come on people. Get out of your drunken haze and relax until next season. If the same thing happens again, then dismiss Fulmer.
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#97
#97
fatjoe8 said:
I know 80% of you want a change, but please consider this (and I say please so we can all think, not that any of you have any real power)....
What you said makes so much sense. We have a proven coach in Fulmer let's give him another year sans Clawson and see how battle tested he is. Bringing a new guy doesn't guarantee success as the aforementioned Rodriguez proves. I'm tired of the freaking Fulmer bashing and negativity in Vol nation. Let's get these recruits and go to work. Hell let's work like heck even. Things are gonna get better just you guys wait. Just you guys wait...
Rich Rodriguez was dominant the past few seasons at WVU, coming within a Pitt loss from appearing in last season's NC game. He takes over a respectable (yes respectable...how many straight winning seasons?) Michigan program, and now look at Michigan. They are like Notre Dame of the past few seasons. Really, Michigan is losing to TOLEDO??!!

Tennessee has players, has athletes, including the signing recently of the nation's #1 Running Back.

The common ingredient in all of SEC Title game appearances has been a quality, SEASONED QB (Casey, Erik)...Is it really Phil's fault J Crompton got in the games and shriveled under the pressure. Or that Stephens can't move the offense?

Let's be real. We don't have Peerless Price, Carl Pickens, or Robert Meachem. We don't have Travis Henry, Stephens, or John Henderson. We have a mediocre team. Changing coaching staffs means we lose our current recruits (#1 RB!) and destabilize our program for several years.

People, do we really want to be as bad as ND last year? As bad as Michigan this year? Can you imagine LOSING TO NORTHERN ILLINOIS? Losing to teams like Wyoming (who I know is dreadful)????

Give Phil another year. The QB's will be seasoned, a bad year behind them, and hopefully we can compete next season for the SEC east. I DO NOT want to see us being 2-9 next season and losing to everyone except non-division 1 teams. Tennessee is losing this year, but my goodness. We are losing to FLORIDA, ALABAMA, GEORGIA AND AUBURN. All 4 teams have been or are current top 10 teams. Crap happens. It's a bad season.

WE LOST TO LAST SEASON'S NATIONAL CHAMPS BY A MEASLEY TOUCHDOWN...SHOULD HAVE WON THE DAD GUM GAME!

Phil and co. surely didn't forget how to coach.

Everyone calm down....Embrace the face we cannot CANNOT be national champs every year. We will be ok, but we need stability.

Bringing in a Lane Kiffin or Muschamp ensures NOTHING...what ties to the SE does Kiffin have? Come on people. Get out of your drunken haze and relax until next season. If the same thing happens again, then dismiss Fulmer.
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#99
#99
Phil's legacy: national championship level talent at least 4 years. Result: 1 title and a bunch of chokes in other years.
 
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