This why Kirby doesn’t scare me.

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Bigorangefaninga said:
yep and if he is head coach at UGA he would be winning big also, not sure why we have so many idiots on this board just like bigun above! Comparing us with 2 losing seasons in 5 years prior to Pruitt showing up compared to Smart who took over a program that went 9-3 the prior year and has been top 10 ranked in recruiting every year for the past 15 years. We really have some stupid fans or AT LEAST some stupid fans of other teams that come over here to read. You put Smart on UT as head coach and we dont have any better record than we do right now, maybe even worse, I mean at least we beat USCLeast this year! Right now in programs we are comparing apples to banana's. A pretty banged up 2001 BMW vs a new Porsche. YET they somehow think Pruitt should be winning big.
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Couldn't not be a more ironic statement considering the source. Dude, we are trying to save you the embarrassment of going out publicly and stating a coach that has beaten us 122-26 the last three years is a terrible worthless coach and our guy that lost to Ga State and BYU is the real gem of college coaching.
 
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sjt18 said:
Of course it is. Nothing I said undermines that. Pruitt could in reality be a much better coach than Smart yet be fired while Smart has a long tenure at UGA. I am only addressing the issue of which is a better "coach". Does anyone actually question that Smart had a better starting point?


Pruitt will always have those stains on his record. They're real. No matter how we might try to excuse or explain them away... they never should have happened.

I don't know what Smart will or won't do at UGA. So far, I think Pruitt's straight forward way of handling players is good. Just an outsider looking on from a distance... but there seems to be at least some questions about how straight forward Smart is with players.
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Nick Saban would have a statue in Tuscaloosa today if he didn’t lose to Louisiana Monroe.
 
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Bigorangefaninga said:
Dear Lord we have some really dumb people reading this board and hanging on Smart's jockstrap. Let me know when Smart has the NC that Fulmer does. Fulmer won it in his 6th season lets see if Kirby can do the same. You want to make a bet on him not being able to in the same timeframe? I am down for a Wager on it. Also if you think the situation is at all comparable, I shouldnt waste any more time on you, because you have the brain capacity of an amoeba. One took over because of a coach with health issues. The other took over a 9-3 team that was winning at a 74% win rate but no National titles since 1980. 4 seasons later still those no NC since 1980 and close means nothing except in horseshoes and hand grenades.
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Do you even pay attention to facts or just make stuff up because you are too drunk on orange kool aid to realize how out of touch you sound?

Sure is a good thing Fulmer didn't take over a 9-3 team. Idiot. What did Fulmer win with Peyton Manning? So you would be slamming Fulmer for only winning 1 SEC with one of the greatest QB's to ever play the game? And not only that, they had to depend on Florida to lose to get into the SEC game. So according to your logic, Fulmer wasn't very good.
 
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Bigun said:
Do you even pay attention to facts or just make stuff up because you are too drunk on orange kool aid to realize how out of touch you sound?

Sure is a good thing Fulmer didn't take over a 9-3 team. Idiot. What did Fulmer win with Peyton Manning? So you would be slamming Fulmer for only winning 1 SEC with one of the greatest QB's to ever play the game? And not only that, they had to depend on Florida to lose to get into the SEC game. So according to your logic, Fulmer wasn't very good.
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LOL, you really are dumb. Fulmer still won a Natty, has Smart? I mean as a DC he has, ALL of which were under Saban, While Pruitt won one under Saban AND Fisher. The FSU team actually lost 8 starters yet went to the number 1 defense in the nation losing 8 starters and won a Natty. Neither coach has won a Natty as a head coach but yet Kirby Dumb took over a 9-3 team one in which in 15 seasons had 1(2010) losing season while Pruitt took over a program that in the past 15 years had 7 losing seasons.

Now as far as Fulmer, he took over a team because of illness, not for a coach being fired. That team finished 9-3 but Majors went 5-3 while Fulmer went 4-0. Not even close situations, but good try.
 
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Bigun said:
Couldn't not be a more ironic statement considering the source. Dude, we are trying to save you the embarrassment of going out publicly and stating a coach that has beaten us 122-26 the last three years is a terrible worthless coach and our guy that lost to Ga State and BYU is the real gem of college coaching.
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DA alert, yes, they walked into totally the same situation! I didnt say that Smart is a terrible coach or embarrassment. What I did say is he is an average at best coach not even close to a great coach because he has the world at his fingertips and continues to show nothing for it. Seriously the end of it all is a Natty. anything else after that is a loser. There's only one and its why the greats like Saban or Meyer have multiple of those. Smart doesnt have one and the ones he does have were under prob the best there ever has been. So far nothing Smart has done shows me he has that greatness. Yes he's won a ton of games, but so did Richt, neither have won a NC and although close, it was Smart's own boneheaded decisions that lost that game to Bama for him, so him not having a Natty lays squarely at his feet. Am I sure he will never win one? No, I am not, but with every advantage he has at UGA he has yet to do anything but win a bunch of games and yet still sit with an empty trophy case. Now do I think Fulmer was a great coach? I think he was a good coach with great recruiting and some amazing studs on both sides of the ball. Yes he won a Natty and that moves him up in the coaching ranks for sure. But in the end those rings and trophies are all that matter and right now Smart doesnt have one and if he never gets one he will just be another UGA coach that does less with more. The wasted talent there has been absolutely mindblowing.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Jacob Eason is a likely an NFL first round pick, Fields a potential Heisman candidate and Kirby chose Fromm, a poor man’s Greg McElroy. Kirby is a good DC and recruiter, poor head coach.
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He knows defense. We're lucky SCAR kept Kirby from hiring Bobo.

Fromm isn't as bad as he looked this year. Losing Chaney and 3 best WRs hurt him bad this season. Will he ever be as good as he was last year? IDK.
 
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Bigun said:
This moronic posts sounds just as stupid as KY fans when they try and trash talk UT football and also how pathetic UGA fans sounded in the 90's. Kirby has outscored us by almost 100 points the last three years. How about lets come within 4 TD's of him before saying his pathetic.

Also, I'm assuming if Kirby is so bad then Pruitt should be able to beat him soon and if not, then you are saying CJP isn't the right man for not being able to beat such a terrible coach?
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How about acknowledging the talent gap as the reason they have outscored UT by a large margin. I have watched UGA play, and I will say this, Kirby Smart does less with more talent than most other coaches. Not to mention some of his in gameplay calling has been suspect at best. I worry more about the UGA talent than the coaching. IMO Dan Mullen is a far superior coach than Kirby Smart.
 
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HuntlandVolinColo said:
He knows defense. We're lucky SCAR kept Kirby from hiring Bobo.

Fromm isn't as bad as he looked this year. Losing Chaney and 3 best WRs hurt him bad this season. Will he ever be as good as he was last year? IDK.
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What should be most disturbing to UGA fans is the number of players on the roster projected as high draft picks in the NFL draft. Given their recruiting hauls over the past couple years it is not good.
 
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ptcarter said:
Don't you think Fromm's regression = Fields fit (in Hindsight). No matter what "system" UGA's offense uses, Fields would have done much better. I'm not saying anyone could see Fromm stinking it up down the stretch this season. Some of that due to lack of talent at WR. Still, I think Fields as QB rather than Fromm get's much more mileage.

Bottom line, we will never really know, will we?
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Yes, we will never know. I just think Fields is a system QB and it would have never worked at UGA.
 
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Bleed-Orange said:
Hindsight.....I live close to Athens and know the town. Eason was Favre in Atlanta all party no work. Kirby should never have even recruited Fields. He just didn't fit. Kirby chose the right guy and neither issue has hurt recruiting. The bigger black mark is Fromm's regression.
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IMO Fromm was fools gold,Chaney knew how to manage him. Like another poster said McCellroy type or about any Bama QB before Tua. Just run the ball with Superior RB's and sprinkle in a throw here and there and at the end of game QB is something like 14 for 18 for 180 yards and dominate TOP.
 
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sechamp2012 said:
IMO Fromm was fools gold,Chaney knew how to manage him. Like another poster said McCellroy type or about any Bama QB before Tua. Just run the ball with Superior RB's and sprinkle in a throw here and there and at the end of game QB is something like 14 for 18 for 180 yards and dominate TOP.
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So JG?
 
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Atlanta917 said:
1-3. UGA wasn’t good either kirby’s first year. The year butch won with a Hail Mary UGA was blown out 45-10 by Ole miss. That was with Jacob Eason at QB.
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You mean Eason the projected number 4 draft pick in the next draft?

My point is he has done nothing his predecessor didn’t do and he has lost to every team so far with better talent based on rivals rankings.

Now Dabo......Dabo scares the hell out of me.

Curb stomped Alabama with a team of recruits ranked outside the top 10. Dabo just recently started getting elite talent. Thst guy needs to stay in the ACC.

Kirby is a good coach but he ain’t a great coach in my opinion. I think Pruitts ceiling is higher than both his and Mullen’s.
 
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He doesn’t “scare” me per say...but he’s definitely proven to be a great recruiter. We’d probably pick up an extra few playmakers each cycle if it weren’t for him. He has however proven to be a very below average game day coach so hopefully it’ll eventually catch up to him and impact recruiting
 
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NEOCON said:
You mean Eason the projected number 4 draft pick in the next draft?

My point is he has done nothing his predecessor didn’t do and he has lost to every team so far with better talent based on rivals rankings.

Now Dabo......Dabo scares the hell out of me.

Curb stomped Alabama with a team of recruits ranked outside the top 10. Dabo just recently started getting elite talent. Thst guy needs to stay in the ACC.

Kirby is a good coach but he ain’t a great coach in my opinion. I think Pruitts ceiling is higher than both his and Mullen’s.
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Yikes, dabo has averaged a top 10 class for 4 years in a row


The ceiling argument is just stupid, everyone has as much of a ceiling as we imagine to give them

Winning the division three years in a row is an accomplishment that bears reverence


Mullen and kirby have proven their floor is higher than pruitts after the byu gsu combo this year


Lets sober up and pump the brakes
 
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Kirby is such a great coach that he lost to the WORST coach in Vols history- Botch Jones. Kirby is average at best. Richt deuce. Bawhahahaha.
 
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WingT said:
Yikes, dabo has averaged a top 10 class for 4 years in a row


The ceiling argument is just stupid, everyone has as much of a ceiling as we imagine to give them

Winning the division three years in a row is an accomplishment that bears reverence


Mullen and kirby have proven their floor is higher than pruitts after the byu gsu combo this year


Lets sober up and pump the brakes
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2013 was 15th
2014 was 16th
2015 was 9th
2016 was 11th
2017 was was 16th
2918 was 7th.

Sorry Skippy but that’s not a lot of top 10 talent not even 1 single top 5 class.

I pulled those numbers straight of the final rankings.
 
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Bigorangefaninga said:
LOL, you really are dumb. Fulmer still won a Natty, has Smart? I mean as a DC he has, ALL of which were under Saban, While Pruitt won one under Saban AND Fisher. The FSU team actually lost 8 starters yet went to the number 1 defense in the nation losing 8 starters and won a Natty. Neither coach has won a Natty as a head coach but yet Kirby Dumb took over a 9-3 team one in which in 15 seasons had 1(2010) losing season while Pruitt took over a program that in the past 15 years had 7 losing seasons.

Now as far as Fulmer, he took over a team because of illness, not for a coach being fired. That team finished 9-3 but Majors went 5-3 while Fulmer went 4-0. Not even close situations, but good try.
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Fulmer took over the Vols initially because of illness but then took over later that year when they fired Majors. Fulmer took over a team with a Heisman trophy candidate QB and one that was ready made to contend, much more so than Kirby. The previous 3 years to Fulmer taking over they were 11-1, SEC Co Champs played in Cotton Bowl, 9-2-2 SEC Co Champs played in Sugar Bowl, and 9-3 and played in the Fiesta Bowl.

Not sure you realize how ignorant it sounds to say a team that has outscored us 122-26 the past three years, has one 1 SEC Championship, as within a hair of winning the NC, and as dominated the East like few teams before them, has a terrible coach that doesn't scare anyone.

We won't win much as long as Kirby as at UGA.
 
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NEOCON said:
2013 was 15th
2014 was 16th
2015 was 9th
2016 was 11th
2017 was was 16th
2918 was 7th.

Sorry Skippy but that’s not a lot of top 10 talent not even 1 single top 5 class.

I pulled those numbers straight of the final rankings.
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Ok rivals and 247 have them ranked differently, but you said rivals then quoted 247 sports? Requardless your whole argument made no sense

I like pruitt too, but his success comparded to smart or mullen isn't comprable... at all

You realize that right?
 
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