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BigOrangeTrain said:
He called three straight run plays right up the guy when JA had been carving the puppies defense up.
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The bigger issue was he had the wrong RB in for those plays. If Thomas was in the outcome would probably been more favorable. Film guy did a real good analysis of the series and it looks like Bishop was close to breaking the 1st and 3rd play. I believe Thomas with his speed and better cutting would have been more successful. I will keep saying it Thomas needs to be RB1 and get majority of the carries. There was also a pass that Bishop dropped that Thomas would probably have caught and busted for a huge gain down the sideline.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
He called three straight run plays right up the guy when JA had been carving the puppies defense up.
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So then we take the risk of an INT or score quick and give them time to go score when our defense had been swiss cheese all game

I mean the Texans just lost doing that exact thing.
 
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Volnanza said:
I've just been bummed out about the game. We battled Georgia toe to toe for 58 minutes. We had the ball with 3 timeouts around midfield 2 minutes to go. Our offense looked like it was getting more push on the D line and our wide receivers had been getting open all day. Kirby had melted down into an incoherent wild man jumping and screaming on the sideline. WE HAD THEM!

I just knew we were going to score a touchdown...then coach decided to play for a long field goal.😒. I don't know why. WHY! The field goal was the BACKUP plan if we didn't score a touchdown. We could always have kicked it with about a 60-40 chance, but why not just seal the deal? Score and take their glory.

Coach, I am so glad you are here. You've done a tremendous job bringing the program back and you deserve credit, but that last 2 minutes hurt a LOT. In the future, show a little more confidence in the team. Give them a chance to get the job done. This is the BIG one that got away. All we can do now is suck it up and move on (and learn to never pull the horns in again).
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I was hoping for one more shot at the end zone, and if that failed but he ball is closer to the end zone, then kick the field goal and go celebrate.
 
#31
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Big Orange Captain said:
Cause he coached not to lose instead of going for the win in that moment and it cost us a monumental victory. Look we were underdogs at home where we rarely lose so you go for the jugular there when you get the fumble on their side of the field with under 9 minutes to play. We score a TD there and go up 42-30 then we win the game. But still Heup turtled up again on the last drive of the game not getting closer to help our kicker. He mismanaged the situation and let Gilbert overthink the moment ahd he choked. Yes it was a make able kick not a chip shot but still any decent SEC kicker can make it from that distance.
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It's a valid point that the extra pressure building on Gilbert, while watching the plays and knowing that it was all on him for the field goal, may have made a difference.
 
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Volnanza said:
I've just been bummed out about the game. We battled Georgia toe to toe for 58 minutes. We had the ball with 3 timeouts around midfield 2 minutes to go. Our offense looked like it was getting more push on the D line and our wide receivers had been getting open all day. Kirby had melted down into an incoherent wild man jumping and screaming on the sideline. WE HAD THEM!

I just knew we were going to score a touchdown...then coach decided to play for a long field goal.😒. I don't know why. WHY! The field goal was the BACKUP plan if we didn't score a touchdown. We could always have kicked it with about a 60-40 chance, but why not just seal the deal? Score and take their glory.

Coach, I am so glad you are here. You've done a tremendous job bringing the program back and you deserve credit, but that last 2 minutes hurt a LOT. In the future, show a little more confidence in the team. Give them a chance to get the job done. This is the BIG one that got away. All we can do now is suck it up and move on (and learn to never pull the horns in again).
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Exactly how I feel. Clock management is the 1 coaching issue he has had since arriving. Whether it being mismanaging the time on the clock or changing his play calling at the end of half or end of the game. If you go back to 2022 Bama game it seems he calls a better game when he is rushed with no timeouts and has to make calls on the fly. He is still young with only a few years experience as a HC. In a close game, I personally think the 2 minute periods are the hardest part of a coaches game. You have to learn a feel for what your team is doing at that moment. Playing in the SEC with a lot of close games, I hope this past weekend will help him improve that part of his game.
Really like Heupel as the HC, but that loss is squarely on him, not the players.
 
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People forget that UGA kicked what, like 3 field goals (at least 1 or 2 after getting very close to the goalline)? Did Kirby "coach not to lose" by doing so? No, he actually assured the game went into overtime by doing so. CJH put us in a position to win, we just missed the kick. It sucks, but it happens, anybody who is seriously down on Heupel over this is an idiot.
 
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If anyone would have told me we would come close to beating GA before the season started, I would have laughed. We accomplished something most didn't think possible a couple of weeks ago. I'm not heartbroken, excited for the future more like it!!
 
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Big Orange Captain said:
Cause he coached not to lose instead of going for the win in that moment and it cost us a monumental victory. Look we were underdogs at home where we rarely lose so you go for the jugular there when you get the fumble on their side of the field with under 9 minutes to play. We score a TD there and go up 42-30 then we win the game. But still Heup turtled up again on the last drive of the game not getting closer to help our kicker. He mismanaged the situation and let Gilbert overthink the moment ahd he choked. Yes it was a make able kick not a chip shot but still any decent SEC kicker can make it from that distance.
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Or cause he didn’t want ANOTHER idiotic pre-snap penalty, or loss. He should have kicked it on 3rd down, with the aid of hindsight
 
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Volnanza said:
I've just been bummed out about the game. We battled Georgia toe to toe for 58 minutes. We had the ball with 3 timeouts around midfield 2 minutes to go. Our offense looked like it was getting more push on the D line and our wide receivers had been getting open all day. Kirby had melted down into an incoherent wild man jumping and screaming on the sideline. WE HAD THEM!

I just knew we were going to score a touchdown...then coach decided to play for a long field goal.😒. I don't know why. WHY! The field goal was the BACKUP plan if we didn't score a touchdown. We could always have kicked it with about a 60-40 chance, but why not just seal the deal? Score and take their glory.

Coach, I am so glad you are here. You've done a tremendous job bringing the program back and you deserve credit, but that last 2 minutes hurt a LOT. In the future, show a little more confidence in the team. Give them a chance to get the job done. This is the BIG one that got away. All we can do now is suck it up and move on (and learn to never pull the horns in again).
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I heard a good analysis of that series on sports animal. Although I would love to have seen us "go for it", and get a TD, the defense GA was in says "run". IF you remember we had a procedure penalty, Backed us up. The play was a run (forget the RB) but it looked like a 7 or 8 yard gain, but the RB slipped and we got 2. Still behind the sticks. They stayed in a defense which normally favors the run. We didnt get the first , thats the bottom line. I thought the 8 would be enough, but we saw the outcome. Honestly though , the throw for that final Td by stockton was incredible. IT was defended well and dropped into the receivers breadbasket. I was more disappointed in the hold on boo carter that wasnt called on that touchdown that put them ahead before our last one. That would have been 3rd and long and maybe a different outcome. Not blaming the lose on that however
 
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Volnanza said:
I've just been bummed out about the game. We battled Georgia toe to toe for 58 minutes. We had the ball with 3 timeouts around midfield 2 minutes to go. Our offense looked like it was getting more push on the D line and our wide receivers had been getting open all day. Kirby had melted down into an incoherent wild man jumping and screaming on the sideline. WE HAD THEM!

I just knew we were going to score a touchdown...then coach decided to play for a long field goal.😒. I don't know why. WHY! The field goal was the BACKUP plan if we didn't score a touchdown. We could always have kicked it with about a 60-40 chance, but why not just seal the deal? Score and take their glory.

Coach, I am so glad you are here. You've done a tremendous job bringing the program back and you deserve credit, but that last 2 minutes hurt a LOT. In the future, show a little more confidence in the team. Give them a chance to get the job done. This is the BIG one that got away. All we can do now is suck it up and move on (and learn to never pull the horns in again).
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Hindsight is 20/20.
 
#38
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vavolfan6 said:
I think Heupel played it correctly. Georgia still had their 3 timeouts. We were trying to get them to burn their timeouts and leave no time on the clock for a game winning kick. With a throw you can make an incompletion or sack or holding call. Once you made it into game winning FG range, you try to lightly improve your odds of the kick. And we did that. We initially were set up to have a 38 yard kick, which anything under 40 yards is almost automatic for kickers these days. Gilbert was 11-12 all time when kicking 30-39 yards previously.

The false start was a matter of poor execution. I only wish we would have ran one more play, but I understand not..it just seemed like we panicked and ran the FG team out there on 3rd down.
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on the other hand a bad snap and you still have another snap to kick the game winner.
 
#39
#39
LieutenantNeyland said:
I would’ve loved to have seen a timeout on the fourth down or two point conversion. Our d was running around confused.
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Not on 4th down, but definitely before the conversion. The TD was a 1 in 20 shot that was just executed perfectly, but to let them go tempo on the 2-pt. try was ridiculous. Call TO, let everyone take a breath, and get the defense set.
 
#40
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wrangler said:
It's a valid point that the extra pressure building on Gilbert, while watching the plays and knowing that it was all on him for the field goal, may have made a difference.
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The pressure is part of the deal for a kicker. But keeping him in rhythm so the FG team can execute their routine was Josh's job, and by not running that last play and calling TO he failed there.
 
#41
#41
Eastknox865 said:
At the end of the day if the kicker makes the field goal no one is complaining about coaching. The kicker lost the game period
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Not true. I was complaining LOUDLY while I was watching the game. I was complaining that we should be trying to score, not run the clock, not set up for an iffy FG. It was a bad move. It was bad yesterday, it will be bad tomorrow. The game was for the taking and we refused to take it.
 
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#42
Volnanza said:
Not true. I was complaining LOUDLY while I was watching the game. I was complaining that we should be trying to score, not run the clock, not set up for an iffy FG. It was a bad move. It was bad yesterday, it will be bad tomorrow. The game was for the taking and we refused to take it.
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If that's you thoughts then you don't know football and hopefully you're no ones coach
 
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He knows better. In every interview prior to this game he said one of the keys was not taking your foot off the gas pedal. I heard him say it 3 or 4 times. He was as angry as I was after the 3rd and long run up the middle prior to the field goal. Someone needs to ask him what happened to draw that reaction from him.
 
#44
#44
Volnanza said:
I've just been bummed out about the game. We battled Georgia toe to toe for 58 minutes. We had the ball with 3 timeouts around midfield 2 minutes to go. Our offense looked like it was getting more push on the D line and our wide receivers had been getting open all day. Kirby had melted down into an incoherent wild man jumping and screaming on the sideline. WE HAD THEM!

I just knew we were going to score a touchdown...then coach decided to play for a long field goal.😒. I don't know why. WHY! The field goal was the BACKUP plan if we didn't score a touchdown. We could always have kicked it with about a 60-40 chance, but why not just seal the deal? Score and take their glory.

Coach, I am so glad you are here. You've done a tremendous job bringing the program back and you deserve credit, but that last 2 minutes hurt a LOT. In the future, show a little more confidence in the team. Give them a chance to get the job done. This is the BIG one that got away. All we can do now is suck it up and move on (and learn to never pull the horns in again).
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I agree with this assessment.
 
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Big Orange Captain said:
Cause he coached not to lose instead of going for the win in that moment and it cost us a monumental victory. Look we were underdogs at home where we rarely lose so you go for the jugular there when you get the fumble on their side of the field with under 9 minutes to play. We score a TD there and go up 42-30 then we win the game. But still Heup turtled up again on the last drive of the game not getting closer to help our kicker. He mismanaged the situation and let Gilbert overthink the moment ahd he choked. Yes it was a make able kick not a chip shot but still any decent SEC kicker can make it from that distance.
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I also agree with this assessment.
 
#46
#46
Eastknox865 said:
If that's you thoughts then you don't know football and hopefully you're no ones coach
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Lol. That's funny. I don't know football. Well, I do know that the objective is to WIN. Not look good losing. My view point provided two paths to victory. Not one. Logically, mathematically, and statistically you have a better chance to win if you have two ways to do it. We chose a single path strategy. We lost.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
People forget that UGA kicked what, like 3 field goals (at least 1 or 2 after getting very close to the goalline)? Did Kirby "coach not to lose" by doing so? No, he actually assured the game went into overtime by doing so. CJH put us in a position to win, we just missed the kick. It sucks, but it happens, anybody who is seriously down on Heupel over this is an idiot.
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