This speaks volumes

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Briningstool: we took better TEs, he was too small

Colson: would be signing here but family making him sign with UM

Kollie: offered too late, wasn’t a take with Lewis committed earlier in the process

Turrentine: wanted at corner, wants to play safety

Pennington: the only actual miss here

Wolfe: back problems and we have 2 4⭐️TEs committed so who cares

Sutton: literally told us he didn’t want to damage his body playing in the SEC

Barnes: VERY overrated. No P5 schools pushing

Adonai Mitchell: better WRs committed in Merrill and Taylor


/thread (and for the record don’t come @ me about taking up for the staff, I’ve called for Pruitt to be canned just as much as anyone here. But this 2021 group of prospects in the state are OVERRATED)
 
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VOLUNTEERSZN said:
Briningstool: we took better TEs, he was too small

Colson: would be signing here but family making him sign with UM

Kollie: offered too late, wasn’t a take with Lewis committed earlier in the process

Turrentine: wanted at corner, wants to play safety

Pennington: the only actual miss here

Wolfe: back problems and we have 2 4⭐️TEs committed so who cares

Sutton: literally told us he didn’t want to damage his body playing in the SEC

Barnes: VERY overrated. No P5 schools pushing

Adonai Mitchell: better WRs committed in Merrill and Taylor


/thread (and for the record don’t come @ me about taking up for the staff, I’ve called for Pruitt to be canned just as much as anyone here. But this 2021 group of prospects in the state are OVERRATED)
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TLDR: Didn’t want them anyway
 
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VOLUNTEERSZN said:
Briningstool: we took better TEs, he was too small

Colson: would be signing here but family making him sign with UM

Kollie: offered too late, wasn’t a take with Lewis committed earlier in the process

Turrentine: wanted at corner, wants to play safety

Pennington: the only actual miss here

Wolfe: back problems and we have 2 4⭐️TEs committed so who cares

Sutton: literally told us he didn’t want to damage his body playing in the SEC

Barnes: VERY overrated. No P5 schools pushing

Adonai Mitchell: better WRs committed in Merrill and Taylor


/thread (and for the record don’t come @ me about taking up for the staff, I’ve called for Pruitt to be canned just as much as anyone here. But this 2021 group of prospects in the state are OVERRATED)
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Actually, your post doesn't say they are overrated, it says we wanted Colson, Kollie, Turrentine and Pennington; but aren't going to get them for various reasons. If you are correct, 2 are our program's fault and 2 are not. The narrative would be completely different if we had half the state's top 10 recruits committed. Unfortunately, we don't.
 
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VOLUNTEERSZN said:
Briningstool: we took better TEs, he was too small

Colson: would be signing here but family making him sign with UM

Kollie: offered too late, wasn’t a take with Lewis committed earlier in the process

Turrentine: wanted at corner, wants to play safety

Pennington: the only actual miss here

Wolfe: back problems and we have 2 4⭐️TEs committed so who cares

Sutton: literally told us he didn’t want to damage his body playing in the SEC

Barnes: VERY overrated. No P5 schools pushing

Adonai Mitchell: better WRs committed in Merrill and Taylor


/thread (and for the record don’t come @ me about taking up for the staff, I’ve called for Pruitt to be canned just as much as anyone here. But this 2021 group of prospects in the state are OVERRATED)
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I'm just going to throw this out there... most of the top ten players in the state of Tennessee are going to teams that are in the race for the playoff... we're 2-6 and looking down the barrel at 3-7.. if these players are good enough for those teams, they're damn sure good enough for ours.. stop making excuses...
 
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VOLUNTEERSZN said:
Briningstool: we took better TEs, he was too small

Colson: would be signing here but family making him sign with UM

Kollie: offered too late, wasn’t a take with Lewis committed earlier in the process

Turrentine: wanted at corner, wants to play safety

Pennington: the only actual miss here

Wolfe: back problems and we have 2 4⭐️TEs committed so who cares

- offered too late

Sutton: literally told us he didn’t want to damage his body playing in the SEC

Barnes: VERY overrated. No P5 schools pushing

Adonai Mitchell: better WRs committed in Merrill and Taylor


/thread (and for the record don’t come @ me about taking up for the staff, I’ve called for Pruitt to be canned just as much as anyone here. But this 2021 group of prospects in the state are OVERRATED)
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So much BS here. I do have to admit you got every recruiting forum excuse for a miss in there. I see

- He's not good enough for us but good enough for a national power

- Overrated

- We dont want him to play his natural position

- Family forcing him

- We didnt need him. National power that got him needs him.

- We got screwed over by a decommittment

I know a coach, have a family member attending, or a family member coaching at 4 of the 5 schools above. You were right that we just missed the ECS kid. Pruitt is going to miss David Johnson in Memphis.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
So much BS here. I do have to admit you got every recruiting forum excuse for a miss in there. I see

- He's not good enough for us but good enough for a national power

- Overrated

- We dont want him to play his natural position

- Family forcing him

- We didnt need him. National power that got him needs him.

- We got screwed over by a decommittment

I know a coach, have a family member attending, or a family member coaching at 4 of the 5 schools above. You were right that we just missed the ECS kid. Pruitt is going to miss David Johnson in Memphis.
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Let me know where a 215lb TE is gonna play SEC ball, please. Campbell would be ranked higher if he was the one committed to Clemson. It’s common knowledge by everyone that Colsons family is making him to go Michigan. And why would we take Prince Kollie back in June when we had the number 1 LB and number 10 LB in the nation committed with a legitimate shot at the number 2 LB??

But I get it, every legitimate reason is an “excuse” when you’re losing. I’m just saying I wouldn’t have recruited most of these kids either. If the same thing happens in 2022 I’ll be just as mad as anyone because most of those kids are legit. Not the case here. Hopefully a better coach is going after them. If we were 6-2 no one would care about this

Does anyone ever look at our actual commits before they look at the list of in state kids?? Or look at who we had committed when said in state kid shut down his recruitment?
 
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VOLUNTEERSZN said:
Let me know where a 215lb TE is gonna play SEC ball, please. Campbell would be ranked higher if he was the one committed to Clemson. It’s common knowledge by everyone that Colsons family is making him to go Michigan. And why would we take Prince Kollie back in June when we had the number 1 LB and number 10 LB in the nation committed with a legitimate shot at the number 2 LB??

But I get it, every legitimate reason is an “excuse” when you’re losing. I’m just saying I wouldn’t have recruited most of these kids either. If the same thing happens in 2022 I’ll be just as mad as anyone because most of those kids are legit. Not the case here. Hopefully a better coach is going after them. If we were 6-2 no one would care about this

Does anyone ever look at our actual commits before they look at the list of in state kids?? Or look at who we had committed when said in state kid shut down his recruitment?
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Maybe a 215 lb that will get up to 235-240 once in S&C can ask this similarly sized guy...

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We can’t afford to miss on anybody , we need kids who truly want to be here. My son plays college football in a different state but it was the best fit for him. He does miss home but loves his school and coach. In state kids are important but not always make or break. JUST WIN BABY and you will get who you want .
GBO beat the HELL out of candy !!!
 
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Orangeblood75 said:
We can’t afford to miss on anybody , we need kids who truly want to be here. My son plays college football in a different state but it was the best fit for him. He does miss home but loves his school and coach. In state kids are important but not always make or break. JUST WIN BABY and you will get who you want .
GBO beat the HELL out of candy !!!
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Agreed. There's really no margin for error with this class. We need all our blue chip commits to be playmakers, and hit on a few of the 3 star guys.
 
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VOLUNTEERSZN said:
Let me know where a 215lb TE is gonna play SEC ball, please. Campbell would be ranked higher if he was the one committed to Clemson. It’s common knowledge by everyone that Colsons family is making him to go Michigan. And why would we take Prince Kollie back in June when we had the number 1 LB and number 10 LB in the nation committed with a legitimate shot at the number 2 LB??

But I get it, every legitimate reason is an “excuse” when you’re losing. I’m just saying I wouldn’t have recruited most of these kids either. If the same thing happens in 2022 I’ll be just as mad as anyone because most of those kids are legit. Not the case here. Hopefully a better coach is going after them. If we were 6-2 no one would care about this

Does anyone ever look at our actual commits before they look at the list of in state kids?? Or look at who we had committed when said in state kid shut down his recruitment?
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Macro level - This staff has not been nearly as visible in Middle TN as the prior staff. David Johnson was visible in the Memphis area but that hasn't been the case since he left.

Micro level - We lost out out on Briningstool and Turrentine largely due to the outdated offensive and defensive philosophies we have (i.e. Wanting tall corners, using the TE as a 6th blocker instead of offensive weapon). I call that a "miss" when we can't get talented players because we are behind the times (More of a coaching criticism than recruiting one).

Colson - There's some truth to the family thing but the macro comment I brought up earlier is as much of a factor. Colson is going to a school with a dead man walking as a HC. Again, a miss.

Kollie - Lewis was always shaky at best so by missing out on Lewis and Kollie is a miss.

Pennington - A miss. Our fate was sealed when David Johnson left. I expect we will lose out on a lot more Memphis kids to Lane.
 
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jackcrevol said:
I could be wrong but Colaon and Andre Turrentine were only one's we heavily recruited. Brininstool was a national cruit. He never gave us a shot.

Word was staff wasnt in love with this 20 in state class, was ready for 21 class. if they arent enamored, then Im with them. They can evaluate and recruit.
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Sadly there are a lot of guys this staff "wasn't in love with" that are balling out at other schools. Right now I'd lump their ability to recognize talent down there with their ability to develop quarterbacks and the results of this miserable excuse of a season.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Sadly there are a lot of guys this staff "wasn't in love with" that are balling out at other schools. Right now I'd lump their ability to recognize talent down there with their ability to develop quarterbacks and the results of this miserable excuse of a season.
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Coulda. Shoulda. Woulda. Everyone wants what they can’t have and they always want the next shiny cool thing. Can’t continue pissing in a mud puddle and rolling in it thinking that it’ll change anything.
 
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VOLUNTEERSZN said:
Let me know where a 215lb TE is gonna play SEC ball, please. Campbell would be ranked higher if he was the one committed to Clemson. It’s common knowledge by everyone that Colsons family is making him to go Michigan. And why would we take Prince Kollie back in June when we had the number 1 LB and number 10 LB in the nation committed with a legitimate shot at the number 2 LB??

But I get it, every legitimate reason is an “excuse” when you’re losing. I’m just saying I wouldn’t have recruited most of these kids either. If the same thing happens in 2022 I’ll be just as mad as anyone because most of those kids are legit. Not the case here. Hopefully a better coach is going after them. If we were 6-2 no one would care about this

Does anyone ever look at our actual commits before they look at the list of in state kids?? Or look at who we had committed when said in state kid shut down his recruitment?
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That 215 lb TE is obviously going to bulk up in college. I dismissed and did not read the rest of your post because of your faulty reasoning on the 1st point.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
That 215 lb TE is obviously going to bulk up in college. I dismissed and did not read the rest of your post because of your faulty reasoning on the 1st point.
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We can’t afford for a TE to come in and “bulk up” we need instant impact guys there and bad
 
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