This group likely to beat Alabama every other year based on progress to date.

[Mtnvol80]

We we're typing at the same time. None of what you wrote leads me to believe or even hints at him being better. Better chance of hitting the lotto than 2 coaches of that magnitude coaching in the same decade much less century. I believe Pruitt will get as back to competing but in the running for championships every year? Nope.

We've only won one in the past 50 years so now why all of a sudden would we be competing for them annually in much different times? This isn't the 90s. TV money has changed things, recruiting has changed greatly, players attitudes have changed (wanna win now so they go to teams already competing for them plus which school offers the best way to the nfl). College football is a way different environment than it ever has been

 

[bamawriter]

Nick let him coach the secondary without meddling.

Not even remotely true. Saban is involved with the DBs moreso than any other position group. That's been true no matter who the position coach has been.

Florida State counts for something.

Does it count enough to make him the best coach ever?

Georgia 3 and outs in the 4th quarter last years NC - never saw those results vs that talent with Nick running it.

Never? Like, literally never? Were you in a coma in 2011?

The players like him.

Players all over the country like their coaches.

Seems to be bringing UT along as well as Bill did with the Cowboys, so far.

Who is Bill?

Nick has always struggled to get that side of the ball right. Dooley was from that side of the ball.

Always struggled? Saban has had two Heisman winners, and 3 top 3 finalists, all from the offensive side of the ball.

Yeah, I think he is better than Nick.

2 unimpressive wins against arguably the worst team in FCS and inarguably the worst team in FBS coupled with 3 drubbings against Power 5 opponents, and you've concluded that Pruitt is the greatest coach in college football history.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

There seem to be a bunch of Shiano fans on this thread, but you seem to want to give me enough rope...

1. Nick let him coach the secondary without meddling.
2. Florida State counts for something.
3. Georgia 3 and outs in the 4th quarter last years NC - never saw those results vs that talent with Nick running it.
4. The players like him.
5. Seems to be bringing UT along as well as Bill did with the Cowboys, so far.

Not as mature as Nick on the offensive side of the ball.

The coaches on the offensive side are smart and good recruiters, but I have no evidence of "can't stand losing" attention to detail. Not like Pruitt or Nick.

Nick has always struggled to get that side of the ball right. Dooley was from that side of the ball.

Offensive guys can tend to be stat hounds, even the coaches. Pruitt is forcing the team to run through the hole/track. Crawl before walk. But with that receivers coach there have got to be more plays downfield than spectators see- but max protect makes this statement false.

I think Pruitt is impressed with the fight in the kids at Tennessee. Lane said he had never seen walk ons contribute like he saw at Tennessee. This team will likely determine whether he stays. They might be winning him over. Other places have had more talent, but maybe not will.

So he needs to sort the offensive side, and get more attention to detail, and an understanding of what a first down is. It looks like we prefer completion stats to first down stats. Almost everybody on the offense seems to care more about personal stats than winning the game as a team. Looks like endemic selfishness to me.

But Pruitt will get it sorted out.

Yeah, I think he is better than Nick.

Jesus. I want to ask you an honest question, how can you seriously believe Pruitt is better than Saban at anything that has to do with coaching?

 

[chattavol420]

It's so incredibly hard to understand why people are optimistic about Pruitt after losing to uga. Pruitt literally didn't try to win the game. His goal was simply to keep it close. We didn't throw a freaking down the field pass in the first half! His goal was to just keep the game close and avoid mistakes. And that's just sad. We had a shot to win the game. Georgia was not ready to play

 

[volsrock09]

I think what the OP is suggesting is that once Pruitt gets up and going, he’ll beat Bama 50% of the time.

There’s no way to even make a guess at that with what we’ve seen.

At this point, my guess is that I don’t think Bama loses to Tennessee until Saban retires...which may be around the time Pruitt gets Tennessee up and going

Agreed. I dont see UT beating Bama until Sabans been gone for 2 to 3 years, imo. Definitely not while Tua is there, either.

 

[Carl Pickens]

We suck Carl. We're gonna look worse after the bye. Auburn gonna beat us 65-0 in the first half. Ain't gonna win anymore games til maybe 2021. Then Pruitt gone to Alabama.

Feel better?

Nah.... not really. I think the Vols are better than that..... just not quite ready to beat Bama

 

[Carl Pickens]

Can somebody in Knoxville find out where the Alabama team is planning to have dinner the night before the game this year? That might give us a chance if we could bribe a couple of the cooks.

I like the way you think

 

[shotgun83]

It's so incredibly hard to understand why people are optimistic about Pruitt after losing to uga. Pruitt literally didn't try to win the game. His goal was simply to keep it close. We didn't throw a freaking down the field pass in the first half! His goal was to just keep the game close and avoid mistakes. And that's just sad. We had a shot to win the game. Georgia was not ready to play

nah. We never really had a shot to win. We are just that bad. Can't do a lot of downfield passes because there's almost no pocket. So let's play action? Still can't because JG still has players in his face and can't really read D's well enough to make those snap decisions.
I totally understand your point though.

 

[VOLnMiami]

We won't beat Bama again until Saban is gone....We had our chance a few years ago and blew it.

 

[TennMan101]

I want what you're having, but I doubt there's anything on or off the market that strong.

It will happen, in my opinion, also. Saban only has a few years left in him. Once he retires, it's game on! Unless, you know, cjp leaves us in the middle of the night, for the bammers, after saban does decide to retire.

 

[VolTexas]

Not even remotely true. Saban is involved with the DBs moreso than any other position group. That's been true no matter who the position coach has been.



Does it count enough to make him the best coach ever?



Never? Like, literally never? Were you in a coma in 2011?



Players all over the country like their coaches.



Who is Bill?



Always struggled? Saban has had two Heisman winners, and 3 top 3 finalists, all from the offensive side of the ball.




2 unimpressive wins against arguably the worst team in FCS and inarguably the worst team in FBS coupled with 3 drubbings against Power 5 opponents, and you've concluded that Pruitt is the greatest coach in college football history.

Maybe we have different ages and data sets.
Bill is Bill Parcells. Look him up.

 

[Kiner57]

There seem to be a bunch of Shiano fans on this thread, but you seem to want to give me enough rope...

1. Nick let him coach the secondary without meddling.
2. Florida State counts for something.
3. Georgia 3 and outs in the 4th quarter last years NC - never saw those results vs that talent with Nick running it.
4. The players like him.
5. Seems to be bringing UT along as well as Bill did with the Cowboys, so far.

Not as mature as Nick on the offensive side of the ball.

The coaches on the offensive side are smart and good recruiters, but I have no evidence of "can't stand losing" attention to detail. Not like Pruitt or Nick.

Nick has always struggled to get that side of the ball right. Dooley was from that side of the ball.

Offensive guys can tend to be stat hounds, even the coaches. Pruitt is forcing the team to run through the hole/track. Crawl before walk. But with that receivers coach there have got to be more plays downfield than spectators see- but max protect makes this statement false.

I think Pruitt is impressed with the fight in the kids at Tennessee. Lane said he had never seen walk ons contribute like he saw at Tennessee. This team will likely determine whether he stays. They might be winning him over. Other places have had more talent, but maybe not will.

So he needs to sort the offensive side, and get more attention to detail, and an understanding of what a first down is. It looks like we prefer completion stats to first down stats. Almost everybody on the offense seems to care more about personal stats than winning the game as a team. Looks like endemic selfishness to me.

But Pruitt will get it sorted out.

Yeah, I think he is better than Nick.

Pruitt is the best coach fit to resurrect Tennessee's program, bar none. To the non believers, they said Dickey's 67 Vols had no chance against Alabama in Birmingham also.

The fact that Pruitt took the job knowing full well the roster needed a complete rebuild/overhaul to compete with Alabama tells me he must have great confidence in his abilities and the staff he put together. He needs a minimum of two more recruiting cycles then sit back and watch.

Also, I would take Pruitt before Smart in a heartbeat. Smart walked into a solid roster at Georgia and got real lucky with a very efficient quarterback. Let's not forget, Alabama was no where near as down as Tennessee is when Sabin got there.

 

[bamawriter]

Maybe we have different ages and data sets.
Bill is Bill Parcells. Look him up.

So, you want to make the case for Pruitt being an all-time great, and the Cowboys coach you come up with is Bill Parcells? Or, to put it another way, the Parcells tenure you come up with was his time with the Cowboys?

I hope you're trolling.

 

[VolTexas]

So, you want to make the case for Pruitt being an all-time great, and the Cowboys coach you come up with is Bill Parcells? Or, to put it another way, the Parcells tenure you come up with was his time with the Cowboys?

I hope you're trolling.

Where is that picture of the guy with all the strings on the wall..? "you just don't see it" "you just don't see it"

Parcells was a good coach. Maybe hall of fame. Head of Nick's coaching tree.

The closest match of circumstances is when he started coaching the cowboys.

Sync up the history at hire. I like what Pruitt is doing as well.

 

[bamawriter]

Where is that picture of the guy with all the strings on the wall..? "you just don't see it" "you just don't see it"

Parcells was a good coach. Maybe hall of fame. Head of Nick's coaching tree.

The closest match of circumstances is when he started coaching the cowboys.

Sync up the history at hire. I like what Pruitt is doing as well.

So, your prediction for Pruitt is that he'll never win the division and go winless in the postseason.

How is that better than Saban?

 

[VolTexas]

So, you're prediction for Pruitt is that he'll never win the division and go winless in the postseason.

How is that better than Saban?

It depends on the offensive players, again. If he has Tony Romo holding field goals, yeah, you're right.

 

[DonDiego]

This thread is just comedy. Don't see why people are bothering to try and make sense of it.

It's all comedy dummazz. This whole thing is bread and circus. While we're debating how good Guarantano is throwing, the powers that be are determining our and our children's future in Washington. We're worried about football progress, they're systematically removing our liberty, and dare I say, our Americanism.

 

[GetYouSomeofThat]

Why would you hire a coach who you don't think can beat your historical rival at least half the time, no matter who is coaching them?

This "I'll beat them by dancing on their grave when they are 6 feet under" is... look in the mirror.

Why would you plan so that if everything goes according to plan, you lose?

About 80% of people do that proudly.

I think Pruitt is a better coach than Nick.

Trust me I didnt hire him. And wouldnt have hired him. Maybe he turns out to be great but at this moment in time there isnlittlento indicate that will happen.

I dont even know how to respond to that last sentence. Well other than to ask; Are YOU trying to make an appearance somewhere for most delusional post of the century? Better than a guy with multiple NCs on his resume?

unless you meant to use blue font....

 

[GetYouSomeofThat]

The OP offers enough concrete data points for me.

I think its extension time in TN!

hahahahaha

Perfect

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Pruitt is the best coach fit to resurrect Tennessee's program, bar none. To the non believers, they said Dickey's 67 Vols had no chance against Alabama in Birmingham also.

The fact that Pruitt took the job knowing full well the roster needed a complete rebuild/overhaul to compete with Alabama tells me he must have great confidence in his abilities and the staff he put together. He needs a minimum of two more recruiting cycles then sit back and watch.

Also, I would take Pruitt before Smart in a heartbeat. Smart walked into a solid roster at Georgia and got real lucky with a very efficient quarterback. Let's not forget, Alabama was no where near as down as Tennessee is when Sabin got there.

I wasnt alive in 67, but all due respect, the 1967 Bama team is nothing compared to this Bama. This Bama team is on pace to be mentioned with the 95 Nebraska and 2001 Miami.

I don't think Pruitg knew exactly how bad this roster was. Would he have been shocked at how small the team was if he knew? We certainly hope JP can bring this program back. He is gonna need 4 years to do so imo.

 

[DonDiego]

visiting teams generally stay in the downtown Hilton.

Well Jake, as Kramer used to say, giddyup!

 

[ConantheVolbarian]

TN fans are going to have to accept some hard truths. And one of the biggest is we arent beating Alabama as long as Saban is the coach. Its just not going to happen. Looking at the way Alabama plays, we might as well be a middle school team. The past 2 years Saban could have easily hung 70 on us. This year they are better.

I mean Bamas third string players would be our starters. We dont have the talent and wont while Saban is there.

Loser talk

 

[VOL_Lyfe]

drink?

That's every Saturday.

 

[VOL_Lyfe]

I want to get to where we are beating the bubba every other year.

Then like your namesake, you will have to be immortal.

 

[Patterson8040]

Delusional.