This Election is Over, Hillary Will Win

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FLVOL69 said:
He'd raise taxes, give away more free **** and illegal immigration would continue to go through the roof, no thanks. And let's not even start on the VA or healthcare for the masses.
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I don't think he'd do much of anything except keep the seat warm for 4 years. The Rs will at least keep the house so he couldn't do much.
 
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If Hillary is elected and sworn in, I guess we keep flags at "half staff" or inverted just like they are now-still a nation in distress but only get worse. We'll keep "open borders" and increase the number of refugees by 5x. Hope you'll like it because the country won't last under her.😧😮😬😱😳😠😡😝😟
 
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hog88 said:
Between him, Hillary, Kaine and Trump, I could live with Biden. Like I said he probably wouldn't trot out any real radical plans and I doubt he'd run for a second term.
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Biden is a laugh! He's part of the "dumb and dumber" team and NO common sense either. Just like John Kerry.
 
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Good ole Joe. SMH.

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hog88 said:
I don't think he'd do much of anything except keep the seat warm for 4 years. The Rs will at least keep the house so he couldn't do much.
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If that scenario plays out, how much longer can the nation continue with a political stalemate?
 
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MT LeConte said:
I'll be blunt. This is a mostly conservative forum and is therefore rife with low functioning mouth breathers that support Trump. So this is for you. The election is over and Hillary will win. The problem for Trump is that demographics are not his friend. Hispanics are not going to suddenly warm up to trump. Try as he may he's not going to peel off any significant portion of the Black vote. The gender gap favors Hillary. Asians voted for Obama 76% to 23% for Romney in 2012. However Trump IS expected to get the lions share of high turnout white male vote which won't be enough. He will also get 98-99% of the Klan and Skinhead vote, so you can take comfort in that.

The debates will be a big event but won't matter much. What little changing of minds that occur will go both ways. The conservative media will tout Trump. Likewise for Hillary and the Liberal media. But, the political media has never had less influence over the electorate. Even low information voters know what's what and who's who nowadays. The polls? Don't pay any attention to them. It's demographics, demographics, demographics.

So suck it up guys. Demographics defeated McCain in '08 and Romney in '12. And the numbers have only grown in Liberals favor since. Sorry, but you right wingers have just excluded too many people for too long and it's coming back to bite you in the ass.
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volinbham said:
Kaine or Biden would be better than Clinton.

She currently fits my criteria for the person I least want to be president. By no means do I want Trump but I have a slight preference for him over her. I'd take Kaine or Biden over Clinton or Trump.

So I'd like to see her out.
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I'm pretty much you if you just flip Trump for Clinton. I see things a bit different from you, but that's fine. Trump is just a wildcard I'm not willing to pick up from the table. He could be a better than average (no way he could be great) president, or he could be the most disastrous leader in our history, doing irreparable harm. Clinton will be a below average president, but I don't think her floor is "race war," which I think is Trump's.

I'm just not willing to take that gamble.

To add to your commentary, I would be happy with even Pence as president and just call it a day, if it meant neither Trump nor Hillary.
 
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FLVOL69 said:
He'd raise taxes, give away more free **** and illegal immigration would continue to go through the roof, no thanks. And let's not even start on the VA or healthcare for the masses.
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You do realize that Trump's tax plan, coupled with his approach to leaving entitlements like social security as is, will be giving away "more free ****" too, right? Where, pray tell, are we going to get all this money?

And illegal immigration is not "continuing to go through the roof." It's the lowest it's been in years.
 
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If Biden were an option I would vote for him over these two scum bags. No not my first, or for that matter 100th choice, but HC and DT are **** bags.
 
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volprof said:
You do realize that Trump's tax plan, coupled with his approach to leaving entitlements like social security as is, will be giving away "more free ****" too, right? Where, pray tell, are we going to get all this money?

And illegal immigration is not "continuing to go through the roof." It's the lowest it's been in years.
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Not nearly low enough. Of course millions have already come in, removing the worthless needs to also be a focus.
 
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volprof said:
I'm pretty much you if you just flip Trump for Clinton. I see things a bit different from you, but that's fine. Trump is just a wildcard I'm not willing to pick up from the table. He could be a better than average (no way he could be great) president, or he could be the most disastrous leader in our history, doing irreparable harm. Clinton will be a below average president, but I don't think her floor is "race war," which I think is Trump's.

I'm just not willing to take that gamble.

To add to your commentary, I would be happy with even Pence as president and just call it a day, if it meant neither Trump nor Hillary.
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The irreparable harm is the exact reason I'm flipped from you. Trump doesn't know how to pull the levers of government but Hillary does. She being pathological and the queen of cronyism can enact policies that have long lasting impact. Trump's buffoonery likely will never get implemented.

I honestly don't see him being able to do much harm other than to the 2 party duopoly. He's the catalyst for significant change. She cements the growing imperial presidency and political class.
 
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volfanhill said:
If Biden were an option I would vote for him over these two scum bags. No not my first, or for that matter 100th choice, but HC and DT are **** bags.
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His named has leaked already.

Problem is all the early voting that has taken place. The dems will lose those votes.
 
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volprof said:
You do realize that Trump's tax plan, coupled with his approach to leaving entitlements like social security as is, will be giving away "more free ****" too, right? Where, pray tell, are we going to get all this money?

And illegal immigration is not "continuing to go through the roof." It's the lowest it's been in years.
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Wrong again genius , his plan is the largest tax cut since Reagan . Developing the energy sector coupled with repeal of certain regulations the economy will actually rebound and begin to grow again .
 
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Good thing I am not eligible to vote until 2018. I can blame you guys no matter who becomes president :)
 
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volprof said:
You do realize that Trump's tax plan, coupled with his approach to leaving entitlements like social security as is, will be giving away "more free ****" too, right? Where, pray tell, are we going to get all this money?

And illegal immigration is not "continuing to go through the roof." It's the lowest it's been in years.
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Where will we get all this money? Seriously? Dude we have just been printing money for years. And we will continue to do so.

Yeah the illegal immigration numbers are definitely legit. I mean the same 11 million illegals for how many years? LOL.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Where will we get all this money? Seriously? Dude we have just been printing money for years. And we will continue to do so.

Yeah the illegal immigration numbers are definitely legit. I mean the same 11 million illegals for how many years? LOL.
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So you admit that you and your candidate are nothing more than frauds?

Because that's what you say here.
 
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